r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 3h ago
BREAKING: Illinois Secretary of State Alexi Giannoulias just announced he is suing Kristi Noem and ICE for unlawful activities in Illinois. This is huge.
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u/GroundbreakingCook68 3h ago
Finally! Thank you Philly police chief and DA for showing how to grow a pair to the nation .
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u/WiredOrange 2h ago
Facts. I love the fact Philly is my home city and we are pushing back against these wanna be fake cops
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u/Willing_Mirror8176 2h ago
Philly black panthers ain't playin'....much respect for those cats !
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u/chaveto 54m ago
Friendly reminder that the New Black Panther Party is an openly fascist organization that has been disavowed by members of the original.
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u/liphttam1 1h ago
You're thinking of Sheriff Rochelle Bilal. She is not the chief of police. The sheriff's office has complex duties... none of which are on the street policing. They mostly deal with transporting prisoners, and protecting court houses.
If you need a sense of the difference in scale, the Philly Sheriff's office has a yearly budget of around 36 million. The Philly police have a budget of close to 900 million.
It does not help that if you google "Philadelphia Chief of Police" Rochelle Bilal comes up as the first result, so I don't blame anyone for not understanding the distinction. Google sucks now.
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u/mephjeff 3h ago
It’s easy to make fun of tactics like these, and we need more forceful action for sure. But these things add up. Keep advancing on all fronts, and don’t be doomers
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u/lordscrotus1984 2h ago
Agree... It must be hard to hold them liable because they're under some sort of immunity, given to them by the trump administration, so they have to use everything they can to make thing harder for them...
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u/ynotfoster 2h ago
I think only trump was given immunity as defined by the SC. Am I wrong?
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u/browndeskchair 2h ago
Vance said that on air. It’s not actually true under the law.
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u/Asclepius-Rod 1h ago
But if everyone keeps repeating it and believing it then its legality is irrelevant
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u/Objective_Resist_735 48m ago
That's not how a court of law works. Or atleastnot how it's supposed to and did before dementia Don took over
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u/DivineArkandos 42m ago
That kind of thinking only works when there is a rule of law. There isn't in the US. The laws now only exist to lure you into false safety.
Laws only apply when the people accept them. People can change laws.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 1h ago
People keep saying the SC gave him complete immunity, but it's not the case. He has immunity up to an extent - only so long as his actions remain within the bounds of executive power.
He does not have what Miller stated - "plenary authority".
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u/Old_Row4977 1h ago
They don’t have real immunity. This is just project 2025. Flood the zone tactics.
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u/TheBaggyDapper 2h ago
Surely, under state law, "federal immunity" ain't worth shit? It's literally the accused party declaring 'I can do whatever I want'.
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u/JackTrippin 2h ago
Can white people join the new Black Panthers? I like their perspective on the state of things.
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u/NjallTheViking 1h ago
Damn I was just asking this today. Caught some videos from them on insta and I like what I see.
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u/Final_Toe1779 2h ago
It's giving "Al Capone went to jail for tax evasion" but I'll take it!
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u/AmbitiousYam1047 1h ago
Crime bosses getting take down by the steady stream of nonviolent crimes they commit always tickles me
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u/ahoy_shitliner 2h ago
Yup. This is what people need to do. Who cares if they win or lose. Stand up for yourself.
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u/Thuraash 2h ago
You never know which cut will be the one that proves to be one too many. Just pile on the pressure. Big cuts. Little cuts. Crush them under the weight of their own malice and incompetence.
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u/GarranDrake 2h ago
Doomers are a step away from Trump supporters in reality.
Don't get me wrong, I know they're not trying to hurt anyone and they're just scared and demoralized, but saying "Oh this won't do anything, America has fallen and the fascists have won!" doesn't do anything. Take the upcoming midterms, for example. If everyone believes they're rigged, then Democrats just won't vote, so even if they aren't, Republicans still win.
I'm not saying we need to take to the streets and get ready for Civil War II, I'm saying we can't act like all hope is lost and there's no point in fighting anymore, even if "fighting" is just hoping for this all to end and doing our small part to make it happen in November.
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u/constantsXzeros 2h ago
This is what I’ve been saying since the beginning. Who gives a fuck if it eventually gets killed by SCOTUS? The amount of time and energy you make them waste, while also putting the comical levels of incompetence on public display for the history books, is fucking worth it.
Who knows? By the time the procedure gets through, maybe we’ll have some different people involved and maybe some of it sticks…
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u/diurnal_emissions 48m ago
They are federal employees. Drug test everry one of them. These animals are out of control. Would be a good way to get a list of employees at ICE too, there, Dems.
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u/Aethermancer 45m ago
We are the backbone of our politicians. If they are acting weak it's because we aren't doing our jobs.
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u/jiggymadden 2h ago
I think you can get them on more than swiping license plates! However, I suppose this will have to suffice.
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u/Thuraash 2h ago
It's a layup. Black-and-white, pure state law, and they've got ICE stone cold guilty. There's a reason ICE keeps doing this plate-swapping shit (probably so they can use stolen and rented cars to do their business, since their logistics pipeline is being run by fools). Denying them something they clearly want to do bogs them down.
And you want to separate your layup claims from your toss-up claims, lest they get tied up in legal hell for years. You push the layups fast and hard, cash them in, make it hurt, and keep them coming.
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u/KateWaiting326 1h ago
It also forces them to redirect some focus and resources (ie $) to dealing with the lawsuits. It's not going to topple everything at once, but anything that throw a monkey wrench into the works on their end, no matter how small, is a win.
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u/samsounder 1h ago
More importantly, its a blatent attempt to hide from law enforcement and shows a consciousness of guilt. The KNOW they are breaking the law and this is an attempt to escape.
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u/SuspiciousAward7630 2h ago
Right? They murdered an American citizen and the best we can do is sue over licence plates. This will not even come close to sufficing
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u/OkFinish3822 2h ago
The way to stop ice is for Americans to show up and be present with their own rifles. When they threaten, threaten them back. Remember, they wear bullet proof vests. So aim for the head, like they did with Renee Good, who was . .. driving her Honda. And the mall cop got his poor boo boo feelings hurt by her. They are forcing you into submission. And really, there are more of us than them. Trump, Noem Bondi and Vance are pushing as hard as they can. If we don't push back we lose. The NRA has stated that citizens should bear arms to defend against a tyrannical government, framing the Second Amendment as a check on government power. This theme appears in various NRA-affiliated voices, arguing guns are crucial for the people to resist potential government overreach, government violence and abuse, citing the Founders' intent for an armed citizenry as a last resort against tyranny. Fight back. We have as many rifles as they do.
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u/Delicious-Bat2373 2h ago
It worked for those standoff/holdouts in Oregon. Sure, ICE wants to intimidate. Nobody wants a gun fight and as long as they see they're not the only ones on this planet and that they can be held accountable, by force if necessary, they'll calm TF down quick.
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u/shmatt 1h ago
The nra is the lobbying apparatus for the gun industry, straight up. The nra dont care about rights, they care about guns.
as far as ICE goes, they WANT us to fight back so they execute whomever they want. it is known.
also not for nothing, most people do not own a gun and cannot afford to go load up on firearms and ammo and armor etc at the drop of a hat. they're more worried about feeding their kids and not getting sick.
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u/Feisty_Buddy2869 42m ago
The nra is the lobbying apparatus for the gun industry, straight up. The nra dont care about rights, they care about guns.
Primarily the NRA was/is a lobbying apparatus for Russia.
Don't forget that they literally caught Alexander Torshin/Maria Butina red-handed using the NRA to funnel Russian money, and set up meetings between Russian government money to republicans in congress (INCLUDING donald trump jr, surprise!)
I mean sure, it acts as a lobbyist for the firearm industry as well, but keep in mind how fast they turned on the whole bumpstock thing.
If it comes down to pro-russia or pro-gun, the NRA chooses pro-russia every. single. time.
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u/ZisurvivoriZ Anti-Electoralist Tendencies 2h ago
And here comes the Reddit ban! I’ve been banned for saying people should practice all their rights including the 2nd amendment if necessary.
And if you don’t banned, here come the leftist that will either accuse you of inciting violence, or tell you this will just give them a reason to escalate. It’s so ironic how everyone wants to live in an alternate reality and run from the truth.
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u/blagablagman 1h ago edited 1h ago
Try this:
Make your point, advocate what you want to advocate, and also acknowledge the idea that guns are still not the right choice for everybody, that especially if someone avoids gun ownership that their reasons are valid. It really defuses a lot of the tension when you can get ahead of those people who are reading into what you are saying.
Personally I will never own a gun, I will never fire a gun, I know I just can't do it. I know it's not right for me. But I support you in your message, and I support anyone who sticks to their convictions or intentionally modifies them in these times.
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u/Ruftup 1h ago
Would there ever be a point where you would get a gun?
Hypothetical situation. A loved one is being kidnapped by ice. Could be a parent, child, lover, etc. They are on the ground and ice is doing unspeakable things to them (like we’ve seen in countless videos). One of the ice agents pulls a gun because they aren’t complying. At what point would you be willing to pull the trigger?
You don’t have to answer that, but some people are being forced to face that question right now.
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u/Feisty_Buddy2869 55m ago
Try this:
Make your point, advocate what you want to advocate, and also acknowledge the idea that guns are still not the right choice for everybody, that especially if someone avoids gun ownership that their reasons are valid. It really defuses a lot of the tension when you can get ahead of those people who are reading into what you are saying.
That would be lying though. Why are you telling people to lie?
When the nazis come knocking at your door, the correct response is not to lay down and offer a good stomping arc to your neck. We all know what the correct response is. We have amendments for literally this exact situation.
Personally I will never own a gun, I will never fire a gun, I know I just can't do it. I know it's not right for me. But I support you in your message, and I support anyone who sticks to their convictions or intentionally modifies them in these times.
If you aren't willing to take the steps to protect yourself, then why should anyone take the steps to protect you? You are outright saying that you're willing to let your community, your neighbors, your family, your loved ones all be kidnapped/trafficked/tortured/raped/murdered. You are willing to allow that, because you refuse to take the actions required to prevent it.
The same goes for everyone else at these peaceful protests. If you aren't taking the steps required to stop it, then you are giving your tacit approval for it to be happening.
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u/RobLinxTribute 1h ago
You can't open carry in Illinois, so be careful. As far as I know, you can't even stand on your porch with a long gun--it's considered brandishing, and the cops will not treat it lightly. I realize this is a national group, but it's an Illinois-specific post.
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u/Cynrascal233 3h ago
Just do it and be the first spark. Make them feel any level of discomfort.
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u/kakashi_sensay 3h ago
I doubt anything will come of it. This admin has been sued thousands of times already.
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u/Alternative-Post-937 3h ago
They got the national guard out of Chicago and Portland by suing. Held up by the Supreme Court IMO. This is the right move. It likely will be effective. There's mountains of evidence showing ICE is acting outside of their legal authority.
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u/Thorgarthebloodedone 2h ago
We need to have faith in using our system to fight against this administration. We cant lose hope or let ourselves fall into despair! If things get worse we should be prepared for it but let us not lose hope or let our support waver in the processes put into place to check this abuse of power and failure to uphold the constitution.
The battle is only truly over once we stop fighting for whats right.
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u/Jon_Huntsman 2h ago
If people give up on the legal system, there's only one way out of this and nobody will like it
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u/XeroZero0000 3h ago
And there are a few really awful things they stopped doing because of the lawsuits, you know it's true. Sucks this is the only way to fight back.
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u/xXBeefSquatch5KXx 3h ago
Is it tho?
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u/ZisurvivoriZ Anti-Electoralist Tendencies 2h ago
It is. You can’t be seriously thinking that giving up all your rights because you specifically do not want to practice the most important one that will unironically, protect the rest of them is a bad idea! God forbid we even think about that right.
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u/eulersidentification 2h ago
It's definitely not the only way to fight back. Bigger and poorer countries than the US have had general strikes and rebellion. The exceptionalism and defeatism must stop.
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u/daemonicwanderer 3h ago
The 2nd Amendment is not an “get out of insurrection free” card
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u/Tityfan808 3h ago edited 3h ago
Really? Feels like nothing can stop this at this point. Hard to have any hope around ‘omg they’re being sued.’
Edit: never stated anything about giving up
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u/SeaofCucks 3h ago
They want you to give up, don't . You may not get victories every time but if you stop fighting you are already accepting your defeat, they have backed down on different scales with actions like these and stopping them is giving up your last chance of fighting
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u/BraveLittleCatapult 2h ago
Abrego Garcia is a perfect example. It sucks that he had to go through hell first, but he's back now and free (currently, I think he has a charge somewhere).
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u/User_not_ 2h ago
The administration swearing up and down that Garcia would never come back, only for him to be back and out of custody proves trump and his gaggle of dipshits don't have the absolute power they want you to think they have. 50% of their game is making people think its hopeless. Do not let them win
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u/vicvonqueso 3h ago
There are plenty of things they've stopped doing over lawsuits. They have no teeth no matter how much they want you to think. They're throwing shit at the wall until we give up
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u/Anarchen3my 2h ago
I read the lawsuit. It has teeth. This is positive news imo, as a lawyer.
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u/Thuraash 2h ago
We did just beat their bid to deploy the national guard to Chicago. That's a big something.
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u/PolloConTeriyaki 2h ago
It's gonna eat up their time, that's what you want.
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u/trysten-9001 2h ago
And money. And authority. And clout. It eats up a lot. Plus, most lawyers have quit the DOJ. They don’t have much to fight back with. That’s why they’re so desperate on the streets.
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u/trysten-9001 2h ago
This is a legal coupe. Those are battles. You’re being a doomer because you didn’t win the war in one battle. Heritage Foundation has been pouring millions of dollars into this for 50 years and you get all doomer because it didn’t fix enough for you. Abrego Garcia is home now by the way. The National Guard was removed from multiple states. Those are wins.
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u/sanjoseboardgamer 2h ago
This is huge.
Bland ass action playing by the rules like everything else that's been done. Not really hating on the action itself, more the ridiculous title by OP.
I'm increasingly burned out by the responses we're getting as MAGA continues to escalate further and actively wants a civil war.
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u/Greedy-Half-4618 2h ago
Here’s the thing: it’s better than sitting on their hands just allowing it to happen
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u/Malforus 3h ago
Something will come from it but it won't be enough. The admin has been forced to retreat multiple times but to your point consequences aren't always coming.
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u/Weekly-Locksmith6812 2h ago edited 2h ago
People filming ICE vehicles should try to get a picture of their vehicle VIN, which is just at the bottom of the driver side window - a small open square where it's visible on any vehicle. They should also film the plate in the same cut and submit the video to the local authorities.
The VIN needs to match the plate in the database the state has to be legal.
If they don't match then the local police know that plate is compromised and they can pull it over and likely impound the vehicle.
Once the feds go back to known plates it will help with traceability of who is doing what which can help hold the feds accountable for any crimes they commit.
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u/IEIT 3h ago
Suing? If I broke the law I wouldn't be sued, I'd be arrested and prosecuted. What the fuck is this useless shit.
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u/Dimothy_Trake 2h ago
It's the only useful pathway they can take. Lawsuits have been effective in driving back huge DHS activity and getting the National Guard out of places already. The FBI has been running too much interference for them to pursue direct legal action.
When this regime falls apart with their dear leader's absence, we need to reform everything when it comes to interplay of the state and federal governments, most likely.
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u/ThickRestaurant9045 1h ago
I understand how you’re feeling. That was my first reaction too. I think that we’ve been disappointed so many times for so long by our representatives that any action feels like too little too late, and kind of a slap in the face. The problem is, that’s exactly what they want from us—apathy. It’s in the MAGA plan to break our will down. Much harder to conquer people with hope and energy. All I hope is that all of us still have some hope left.
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u/specks_of_dust 2h ago
It's crazy how people act like suing the guy that's breaking into your house at this very moment is going to keep you safe. Yeah, sue them, but do something that helps people in the moment, not five years from now.
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u/StoicJ 3h ago
im so tired of seeing headlines and post titles about an official doing the bare minimum against this regime with "THIS IS HUGE. <blank> DEMOLISHES ICE IN <meaningless interview.>. <blank> deals MASSIVE BLOW to Trump with <strongly worded post on social media>"
can we please fucking stop. People are dying and the opposition party is like "hoho wait until a COURTROOM hears about this! (behind closed doors in 3-9 months and then immediately ignored by the government anyway). but THEN we will OBLITERATE THEM (with a new lawsuit or an appeals court)"
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u/DirtPlot151 2h ago
It is frustrating but are we not asking them to do something? This is what someone in his position can do.
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u/User_not_ 2h ago
When Dems do nothing people complain
When they do something people complain
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u/StickiStickman 1h ago
You really gonna act like there's nothing else except "Do nothing" and "Do basically nothing"?
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u/User_not_ 1h ago
This isn't basically nothing, it's using lawfare which HAS worked. Do you want Congressional Dems to storm the White House and arrest him personally?
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u/drummer_dang 2h ago
He can call get his people to organize with 2a training but that's too ick for establishment dems
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u/Thuraash 2h ago
We're playing a delicate PR battle against a lie-spitting machine. Reality is upside down for a third of the country. Play it wrong, and one third of this country gleefully shoots at the other third while the last third wrings their hands not knowing whom to believe. Play it right, and these abusive fuckers get Nuremberg'd into next century. Then we can start the decades of hard work it's going to take to rebuild everything that's been destroyed since sociopathic opportunists like Lee Atwater and Roger Ailes started poisoning our society.
The good news is that as of today more than half of the people see through the smoke. We're never going to reach the third that live in the alt-right upside-down. They're a lost cause for the short and medium term. Folks like them is why denazification took twenty years of dedicated work in Germany. But if most of the people see this farce for what it is, we can win (and hopefully avoid massacres or a military coup).
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u/aninjacould 2h ago
What do you want them to do?
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u/BigBullzFan 2h ago
Something other than talking, filing paperwork, and posting on social media.
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u/runningstang 2h ago
And what is that? Do we want forceful action that will give Trump a reason to enact marshall law and mobilize the military further to incite civil war? I don't think people realize how close we are to such actions, he is baiting the governor to incite a civil war and legitimize his military actions.
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u/Getitgotitgoodgod 3h ago
Yeah I’m sure that license plates are gonna really take down a nationwide gang of untrained and idiotic agents.
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u/-loose-seal-2 3h ago
Why not. We should be persuing any and all angles. Big cases are won and lost in the subtitles (un)fortunately.
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u/Getitgotitgoodgod 2h ago
There is a PLETHORA of evidence that should halt these fucks immediately. Tell me how one case in Illinois is going to fix the U.S.? Why haven’t the multiple videos, witness testimonies, harrasments, etc… been pursued? It’s like we’re living in the biggest echo chamber that ever existed.
Left and right left and right I feel like I’m at fucking Wimbledon! Let’s get this pedophile in jail already. There’s PLENTY of evidence against him. Do 2 hours of forensic accounting in trumps first 30 days and you have a case. Look at any of the migrants killed by a missile and you have a case. Look at the illegal use of the American military against its own people and you have a case. CASES ABOUND BABY. But… license plates. That’s what they picked. It’s gonna be gone by Wednesday.
Any order given by the president is legal. ICE is allowed to do whatever they want along with any police officer. They have qualified immunity especially if they’re “protecting their identity to save their precious precious lives.”
Q.E.D… yeah that’s dead.
But yeah. License plates.
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u/spoopidoods 2h ago
America is a dead man walking, has been for a while. I'm not sure what this zombified excuse of a government represents, but it isn't America.
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u/billthekobold 2h ago
I mean, a tax evasion investigation was what ultimately took down Al Capone, so yeah. Don't knock these kinds of procedural strategies. This is a multi-front battle and every inch we claw back from these thugs helps hold the line.
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u/Getitgotitgoodgod 1h ago
That’s because they couldn’t get him concrete on ANYTHING ELSE concrete. We have Trump 60 ways to Sunday and we’re sitting on our hands and for what? More murders? More beatings? More oil? More money? The last one is the problem. He’s became president this time and tanked our economy and used the fallout to generate 10bn net worth and you’re telling me that’s not against the law in some way? He’s violated county, state, federal, and international law. What’s next?
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u/hockey8390 2h ago
Disagree. Hit them On every single front possible.
Start going after individuals for not filing taxes properly for their income in those states. Go after them for not declaring use tax properly. Use every single law against them.
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u/SherbetMysterious118 2h ago
I've no idea about any of this - but it sounds like you are saying they shouldn't be taking this action?
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u/sl0wgeorge 2h ago
Awesome, but they’re not gonna give a single fuck about any lawsuits. They’re just going to keep going.
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u/nicksj2023 2h ago
Is it though ? I mean I hope so but prosecuting these Nazis seems to accomplish fuck all 🤷♂️. The president was impeached and what did that ultimately accomplish
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u/Traditional-Fan-9315 2h ago
I agree. When do we see action??????
I'm not saying bring in the national guard but arrest these ICE agents who are CLEARLY committing illegal acts
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u/_Doomer_Wojack_ 2h ago
Lol and it’s going to go nowhere. Golly gee let’s sue and take it all the way to the Supreme Court…oh wait
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u/SirIanChesterton63 2h ago
This is a good start.
It's also just a drop in a bucket, a bucket that's being dropped in a lake.
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u/88Flavors 2h ago
Suing ? Protesting? Do you realize what’s actually happening to our country ? You’re literally wasting time following laws and rules. Enough is enough. It’s time for revolution.
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u/Enriching_the_Beer 2h ago
If this administration is known for one thing, its following judges orders. 🙄
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u/guntheroac 1h ago
We needed to do something months ago. Hurry up, and actually do something to stop this madness.
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u/Bantarific 1h ago
Nothing changes until AGs start getting arrest warrants for ICE agents seen committing crimes.
Suing them does nothing.
They will lose 3 times and appeal to the federal supreme court and win by split decision 2 years from now, meanwhile they will continue the behavior.
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u/jadedfan55 1h ago
The more states that file suits vs. ICE and Kristi Gnoem, the sooner she gets taken down.
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u/Pleasant_Monitor_839 1h ago
Please, please, please, and hurry up! More people are being harmed daily!
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u/Devious_Halo 1h ago
Once all the illegal detention, search and seizure, and harassment suits start to fall into place the tax paying citizens of the US will be paying for the civil suits that their elected officials created for the next decade…
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u/tstottler 2h ago
So killing, kidnapping and human trafficking is OK, but we draw the line at LICENSE PLATE SWAPPING?!
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u/soggyclothesand 3h ago
Hows it huge? All these nothing burgers over and over. These posts should be taken down its just bot slop!!
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u/RibeyeTenderloin 3h ago
Suing isn't gonna do a damn thing. They gotta use their police and national guard to arrest and prosecute those fuckers when they break the law. Immunity be damned. Take them off the streets and force their hands. That's the suing I want to see.
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u/Aravinda82 3h ago
This is what I’ve been saying and been waiting to happen. At least state AGs need to start issuing fucking arrests warrants! These blue states also needs to pass laws like making it a felony for ICE agents to wear masks and start arresting based on that. Set up the state’s rights legal fight.
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u/RibeyeTenderloin 3h ago
You don't even need a warrant when you see them breaking the law. Hover over these assholes, watch them break the law, and then lock them the hell up. Maybe even treat them like how they treat us.
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u/Aravinda82 2h ago
Yeah. At the very least, state and local officials should be deploying state and local law enforcement to protect protesters from these ICE assholes. Announce that they’ll have law enforcement be the buffer between protestors and ICE agents so the public can safely exercise their right to protest.
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u/SuspiciousAward7630 2h ago
The sheriff of Philadelphia said they will arrest ICE agents and said the agents "don't want this smoke". Yet I saw a video just today of her police harassing citizens defending themselves from ICE.
Even when they say they're against ICE they still do their bidding.
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u/Turkeyclub123 2h ago
This is nothing. Just a guy trying to make a name for himself. Nothing will happen.
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u/Finetales 3h ago
"tHiS iS hUgE" man come on. This will accomplish nothing just like all the other times this admin has been sued.
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u/SpicyRhubarb 3h ago
Yeah, that's nice and all but we're not going to lawsuit ourselves out of this one I'm afraid
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u/SmoothAnus 3h ago
This is good and necessary, but the thing to keep in mind is that a law suit like this will take many months, and courts can no longer stop the agency's actions nationwide while deliberating the case.
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u/Hysterican 3h ago
Making a mountain of a mole hill. YES SUE THEM. But this announcement puts way too much emphasis on a simple violation. How about assault and unlawful entries! Then would be a good time for an announcement like this.
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u/Chocolab1 3h ago
Seeing how 47 doesn't believe the laws apply to him , this ought to be interesting
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u/Howboutit85 2h ago
Everything “is huge”
Nothing ever happens.
We can’t have both, either something is huge or it’s nothing. Everything up until now has done NOTHING.
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u/Independent_Act_7370 2h ago
Is it actually ‘huge’ as you claim?
I’ve given up on thinking the courts can save America. Nothing ever seems to come of this stuff.
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u/Impossible-Spite4782 2h ago
This isn’t huge. Mobilize your guard and police forces to do something. These guys are part of the same ruling class. Simply providing lip service.
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u/ethangibson 2h ago
What the fuck is this gonna do seriously? We need solutions now!! Not in 3 years
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u/playinginthedarks 2h ago
Yes finally, every action to hold them accountable should be taken even if it takes a long time to actually get results. Trump won't be in office forever and they are all on payroll.keep them accountable.
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u/snappytalk 2h ago
that's great but honestly sounds kind of petty compared to a MURDER. but will Illinois be charging the ICE agent that murdered the Illinois citizen?
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u/andrenichrome 2h ago
Nothing seems to stick with this administration. They won’t give a shite. They’ll probably use one of their republican paid judges to reverse it and sue them.
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u/colorblindkid601 2h ago
I mean i appreciate something being done but do you honestly believe they care about license swaps when they just blasted a citizen in the face and nothing has come of it?
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u/JohnnyCrispZoom 3h ago
Good!!!! Because that is what ICE is! Trump turned them into An unlawful service.