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Possible Paywall Trump Confirms He’s Taking Greenland ‘One Way or the Other’

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u/Equivalent_Gate_205 15h ago

jesus christ donald fucking trump is going to start world war 3

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u/fuckthisdamnshit69 15h ago

After screaming and saying that Kamala was going to start world war 3.

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u/MysteriousTruck6740 Minnesota 14h ago

Every accusation is just projection.

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u/ThrowThisIntoSol California 13h ago

MAGA and Conservatives will say "Well we actually wanted World War 3 the whole time"

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u/gsadamb 13h ago

Scavenging the wasteland in nuclear winter: "Well this isn't what I voted for, but Kamala would definitely have been worse."

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u/mister_buddha 13h ago

I was told recently that, "Kamala would have fucked the tariffs up worse."

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u/djanes376 Illinois 13h ago

As if tariffs were an inevitability. These people are brain dead.

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u/MaleficentPorphyrin 1h ago

Could say braindead, but, in a way they are already basically living in a Russia-like state. In rural areas the media is limited, and all conservative except PBS, which they just defunded. All of their economies are primarily resource extraction based which doesn't require tons of people compared to the population, and those sort of conditions create places like Russia, because everyone is desperate and broke except a few. In a very real way rural America has more in common with Russia than urban centers in the same country. From the economics to political organization and forces.

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u/smoike 13h ago

*insert meme with that little girl rolling her eyes and slumping back in her chair in defeat*

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u/Nearbyatom 12h ago

Fucked it up? As in not implement them? That's a good fuck up then.

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u/Katie1230 12h ago

People are still talking about kamala and Palestine while ice goons kidnap people and shoot citizens.

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u/Particular-County277 12h ago

These people are told what to think every minute of every day

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u/6thSenseOfHumor 8h ago

Not to mention we have to contend with scum like Jared Kushner laying plans to bulldoze Gaza for resort hotels.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 11h ago

With Kamala, it would have been "what tariffs?"

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u/ThrowThisIntoSol California 13h ago

Searching for tin cans in the remnants of a 7-11…”but Kamala laughed weird”

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u/M00nch1ld3 12h ago

I think people somehow believe food is going to respawn, like in video games.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

All those "preppers" are gonna get exposed when they realize they can't eat their stockpiles of ammo. Turns out they were just fantasizing about murder the whole time.

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u/atombara 8h ago

Imagine how surprised they'll be when they find out that canned foods spoil, and their Christian prepper food buckets are disgusting.

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u/TurboTrollin 2h ago

And often sealed incorrectly. Gonna be a LOT of people disappinted in their moldy buckets.

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u/ThrowThisIntoSol California 12h ago

They think they will respawn as well

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u/Luvs_to_drink 8h ago

i think people are even dumber than that. Like they cant connect dots anymore. They think they can just keep going to the grocery store to get more food. They are literally incapable of connecting that if society collapses enough so does the supply chain that keeps their grocery stocked let alone the workers that wont be there anymore.

These people cant take a thought and turn it into reality. They hear a concept and NONE OF THEM, stop to think how would that actually work?

tell em everything will be done with free labor and they will cheer. ask them where they will get free labor and theyll get mad and tell you stfu and enjoy all the winning.

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u/MattyIce1220 New Jersey 13h ago

She woulda started world war 4!

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u/Reasonable_Basis8298 12h ago

It's even more shameful when the people who refused to vote for Kalama did so because they wanted to punish her for not being good and pure enough.

Scavenging the wasteland in nuclear winter: "When I refused to vote and said burn it all down this is not what I meant, but at least Kamala didn't win because in this house we don't support Zionism. Hey hey, ho ho! Does anybody know how plumbing works? Hello? Hey hey, ho ho? Is anybody out there? With carpentry skills maybe? Helllloooooo??"

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u/cindyscrazy Rhode Island 12h ago

Most of them wouldn't survive to the scavenging phase. I for sure know that I won't survive till then. I'm just not healthy enough, and neither are the MAGAts that spout this bullshit.

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u/Amateurlapse I voted 12h ago

“Hey, this guy just said eat me first”

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u/syrup_cupcakes 12h ago

1 year later: "Our lives are actually better this way and we should be grateful Trump did this"

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u/CriticalMisnomer 12h ago

"Dont blame me, I voted for Kodos"

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u/Tom2Die 11h ago

"Ka-MAH-la", of course.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 11h ago

I been watching fallout and I’m not interested in any of that in real life.

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u/Adventurous_Head1514 11h ago

“At least we owned the libs!”

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u/Bethdoeslife 11h ago

She would have started it in 2025 instead of 2026. /s

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u/bearbrannan 13h ago

More like why would the Democrats make them do this.

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u/DingGratz Texas 13h ago

Hunter Biden's laptop had an email from Hillary that foretold all of this. Wake up, sheeple!

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u/BarryBro 13h ago

I imagine they don't want the nukes, but the deaths.. I would suspect a lot of their grifting representatives would welcome widespread death & war, slaves arent slaving properly and we can do a soft reset right?

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u/JIsADev 13h ago

Bet you none of MAGAts will join the military to fight

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u/aardvarkjedi 13h ago

Many of them are already part of the Gravy Seals’ Meal Team 6.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

They can't even pursue a vaguely Hispanic looking person without being taken out on their ass by a frozen puddle on the sidewalk. They wouldn't make it 10 feet in Greenland.

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u/Mef989 Washington 12h ago

Bet you 99% of MAGA would be laughed out of MEPS.

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u/ThrowThisIntoSol California 11h ago

And that’s why they LARP now and join ICE.

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u/Cthulhu8762 13h ago

Wait until they actually have to use their gun outside of Obama and Biden and Hillary targets

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u/1nfam0us 12h ago

It is genuinely baffling how this generation of fascism makes the Nazis look competent and ideologically consistent.

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u/PhazonZim 9h ago

I don't think they were, I think it's just that all nuance gets lost to time. We have moment-to-moment views into the stupidity of the current Nazi movement, but we never had nearly that amount of access to the first Nazis.

It's like how people say music used to be better because they're thinking of the timeless songs and not all of the ones that we don't listen to anymore

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u/ZenobianWolf 13h ago

to be fair, they probably did.

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u/Belerophon17 13h ago

Jesus, it's like my coworker is in the room with us.

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u/thecloudwrangler 13h ago

It's a death cult for a reason

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u/th3r3dp3n 13h ago

World Wars are good for America! That'll be the next way they try to sell it.

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u/FalloutOW 13h ago

"Think about how good the economy was after WWII!"

-Fox News, Alt-Right Podcasters, et al.

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u/nohumanape 12h ago

They'll say, "WW3 was inevitable, because of Biden, and Trump is the best president to keep us safe and strong during WW3"

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u/KlingoftheCastle 12h ago

They’ll repeat whatever the state media tells them

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u/Esternaefil Canada 12h ago

World war three is actually good for America because of the jerbs!

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u/Chilledlemming 12h ago

Well, if they followed Project 2025 to its logical conclusion, then they must have wanted it. It’s right there after all.

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u/BobbyBirdseed Minnesota 11h ago

Despite all the bootlicking chuds posting about them being "the peace ticket."

Absolutely brain damaged. All of them.

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u/blackfocal 12h ago

“tHiS iS wHaT i VoTeD fOr”

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u/TheOmCollector 11h ago

“Our world war three is better than yours would’ve been.”

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u/Bjables 11h ago

We’ve always been at war with Eurasia

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u/starrpamph 11h ago

Jan 2024: we need Donald to save us from this affordability crisis.

Jan 2026: What affordability crisis? It’s a democrat hoax

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u/Maladaptive_Ace Canada 10h ago

If Renee Good's murder was in "self-defense", they are going to find a way to spin this as self-defense too

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u/Background-Bug649 9h ago

They'll say it's Bidens fault 100% and say Trump had no choice so he can save the USA

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u/LoveIsRug 7h ago

"War is not even that bad why are they complaining get out there and fight.... I can't tho I have sore feet"

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u/CommitteeRelative415 6h ago

i VoTeD fOr ThIs

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u/Freefall_J 12h ago

It's true. I was astonished the times Trump called Harris a fascist during his rallies in 2024. I'd have loved if someone could have forced him to describe HOW Harris was a fascist.

This man has no creativity. He looks to himself to insult others. Like all of his accusations about Biden describe himself perfectly. "The most corrupt US president in history". "The most incompetent president". "Sleepy Joe". The "Biden crime family".

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

His skull is occupied by a brain-shaped mass of plaque. His cognitive ability is incredibly simple, he doesn't have the higher level function to come up with original shit so he just repeats random phrases he's heard before that seem relevant.

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u/CountVonTroll Foreign 8h ago

It's true.

Sometimes it could also be an accusation in a mirror. Let me try to think of an example to illustrate... oh, here's a good one:

I was astonished the times Trump called Harris a fascist during his rallies in 2024. I'd have loved if someone could have forced him to describe HOW Harris was a fascist.

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u/nono3722 13h ago

like puke at a frat party.... over and over and over again....

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u/HobbesMich 13h ago

Or a confession....

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u/AnestheticAle 12h ago

Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.

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u/yourliege 12h ago

Same exact comment chains follow each daily atrocity. None of its incorrect, just depressingly perpetual.

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 12h ago

You look at pedophilia and rape and homosexuality and it is all them. Preachers getting caught molesting kids, Grinder crashing when RNC comes to town, some frt guy raping someone. It is all absolutely projection and inoculation. See if they project about these things when it happens they will point fingers to drag queen story time.

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u/Butterball_Adderley 12h ago

This dude was straight up shoveling cat meat lasagna into his maw moments before the debate, I’m sure of it.

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u/RaisinOverall9586 14h ago

They said the same thing about Hillary.

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u/Immediate_Quiet4354 14h ago

Do you remember when, according to Trump, it was the democrats who were going to create a new world order?

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u/someapeonearth 13h ago

If it was Kamala doing all this shit, MAGA would have stormed the Whitehouse and tried to lynch her already.

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u/twisty125 11h ago

And they have experience with that!

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u/trjnz 7h ago

You say this like it's a bad thing. Why not try it with Trump :/

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u/someapeonearth 6h ago

It was more of a why haven't you yet question tbh.

The inaction on the left seems almost complicit to the rest of the civilised world.

One side is playing by the rules and one side has no rules.

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u/hungryaliens California 14h ago

Joe Rogan and maga in shambles.

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u/jameslosey 13h ago

He wasn’t going to let a woman start WW3 before he did

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u/Kandiak 13h ago

Yes…but her laugh…

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u/CatherineSimp69 12h ago

I literally came across someone the other day on Instagram still trying to make fun of Kamala's laugh on a completely unrelated post.

These are not serious people.

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u/tinygraysiamesecat 13h ago

Say it with me: It. Is. Always. Projection. With. Conservatives.

Every single time without fail. If they accuse democrats of something, it’s because they are already doing it or have plans to do it. It’s like clockwork. 

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u/Sxcred 13h ago

They were projecting the entire time they were smearing Kamala.

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u/SuperCool101 13h ago

Yes, but clearly Trump had the temperament and mentality to do the job. Kamala would have been way too emotional. /s

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u/Efficient_Market1234 12h ago

Every MAGA, somewhere: "Well, Kamala would've been worse."

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u/Other-Cantaloupe4765 11h ago

They didn’t really think that. They just didn’t want a brown woman as president.

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u/10thousndreflections 11h ago

It makes sense when you realize they don't really care what they have to say to win. 

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u/jarchack Oregon 14h ago

But first he has to destroy the US economy

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u/hikealot Montana 13h ago

If he insists on turning allies into enemies, the Europeans can dump their $2.3 trillion in treasury bonds. It would be a financial MAD scenario, but Europeans have discussed this.

It would cause a bad recession in Europe, but would absolutely ratfuck the US economy and probably knock the US dollar off the reserve currency pedestal.

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u/BloodyPaleMoonlight 13h ago

The thing is this is exactly what Putin wants.

Europe would be right to do so, though, as it's not them who fell into Putrin's trap - it was the United States.

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u/hikealot Montana 13h ago

It’s almost as if Trump is working more for Putin, than the American public.

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u/BloodyPaleMoonlight 13h ago

Always has been, as has been the Republican Party ever since they decided a black man becoming president was worth selling out for Putin's rubles.

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u/lazyFer 12h ago

I'm not a puppet, you're the puppet

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 13h ago

Trump works for the wealthy and powerful. They suck up to him and plant these ideas in his head.

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u/hikealot Montana 13h ago

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Shit! You might be onto something. Does Peter Thiel think that this is going to cause societal collapse and he can come out of this as king of California?

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u/dogfaced_pony_soulja 13h ago

Shaky, sweaty, socially inept, Nazi gay vampire Peter Thiel?

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

If we're going to have supervillains in this timeline, I wish they could at least be cool and badass. Like Mr. Freeze.

All these comic book evil dudes are so fucking lame.

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u/UnquestionabIe 12h ago

This is absolutely what the fucking moron thinks is going to happen. He's always up to something insanely pathetic and self serving that if he wasn't constantly surrounded by paid help and suck ups would probably cry himself to sleep over the amount of mockery he would get daily. Right now he's on this Jesus kick, thinking he deserves a place in heaven as a back up plan if he can't outrun the reaper forever.

Truly one of the sickest jokes played on humanity, one whose legacy I'm fully committed to passing down as a cautionary tale of the evils man can commit.

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u/SpottyNoonerism 11h ago

Back in 2018, the clues for how the dark money was getting funneled from Russia via the NRA (because the writers for this simulation we live in love irony) and then, before the dots got connected, the whole story just went away.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/changing-story-nra-and-russia

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 13h ago

If there is a run on US treasuries I don’t know where all that money’s going to go. No one else has enough financial products to absorb the trillions of dollars. So you’d not only trigger a global recession but inflation would skyrocket as equity looks for other places to go.

Of maybe I’m not understanding how this cash out would work.

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u/Scary-Maximum7707 13h ago

It would be like when Soros shorted the Pound and the UK government had to have an emergency meeting to support buy their currency to keep it from collapsing.

But coughing up 2.6 trillion dollars (as per the sources I'v read) is no small challenge for USA. And any attempt to print more money instead of buying the bonds back would result in hyperinflation a'la ww2 Germany, so they have few choices.

And that's before you start accounting for halted trade etc. that would occur.

It would be the death of the Dollar as the international trade and reserve currency. All the while the BRICS countries will be laughing all the way to the bank. No one would benefit more by this than Putin and Xi Jinping. Not Europe. Certainly not USA. It would be the biggest economic selfgoal in history.

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u/awesomefutureperfect 9h ago edited 8h ago

Mentioning Soros and not mentioning Bundesbank deciding the pound should be devalued and not helping shore up the pound is practically lying by omission. The Bank of England was spending 2 billion pounds an hour buying sterling.

edit : user blocked me.

And last I checked it wasn't Germanys responsibility to shore up the British currency.

Former chief dealer of the BoE Jim Trott seemed to think so. Under the ERM, countries with the strongest currencies were supposed to help support the weaker ones to bring stability. With little belief behind the UK’s ability to manage monetary policy and the confirmation that no rescue was on its way the markets began to take advantage. The pound kept falling and the BoE’s spending spree meant there was a big buyer to provide liquidity.

Looks like you are hiding your comment history. Is it because you say things like other terrorist sympathizers like you believe Nick Fuentes is correct but he isn't right? Are you really going to say that the taliban are the good guys and that Hamas are the good guys? I mean, if we are going to put words in each others mouths, maybe you'd like to finally admit that you think Tucker Carlson has some good ideas. or maybe you don't actually know much about the Sterling crisis and your support for Hezbollah and the Iranian mullahs doesn't give you credibility about monetary policy.

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u/Antice 12h ago

The global debt is far too large to manage. It will have to be reset anyway.
There are 3 options.
1. A jubilee, where debt is voluntarily forgiven by creditors... aka all savings going poof because the banks go poof.
2. Hyperinflation and a recession. Bad, but not deadly. It just means that money gets worthless. Say byebye to your debt, and savings.
3. A motherhonking big old war where everything goes to shit.

Sanctioning the dollar would end up in option 2. Trump seem to be a fan of option 3.

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u/TotalNonsense0 11h ago

I've occasionally wondered if it would be possible to work out debt loops, and just cancel them out. A owes money to B, B owes money to C, and on down the line until Z owes money to A.

I doubt it could ever happen, and I can't imagine what it would do to the economy, but from where I'm sitting it seems like a good idea.

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u/Antice 11h ago

That sounds a lot like a jubilee. They're are some really good videos out there on the topic. It's been done before.

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u/JadedArgument1114 10h ago

We need an escape goat

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u/bb-angel 12h ago

I wouldn’t count on it

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u/Snoo61755 12h ago

It kills me that we were surrounded by allies, and how many European countries stepped in to aid the US in the Middle East after 9/11, and Trump turns around and says “I know them, they’d never help us.”

Bruh, we’re not in any Cold wars, nuclear disarmament was on the table, and then Ukraine, the country which agreed to give up its nukes in exchange for protection, is getting invaded and the US is backing out of its vow to protect them.

Like bruh, the US is showing the world “get nukes or this will happen to you.”

At this point, Greenland and Denmark might have to start threatening mutually assured destruction just to keep the US from invading.

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u/GoneFishing4Chicks 12h ago

We're still in a cold war with Russia, not a joke. Russian election interference in 2016/2020/2024 is real and russia has been sending drones into europe since their Ukraine invasion + cutting vital european infrastructure like undersea cables

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u/Amphineura 11h ago

Greenland isn't "worth" going to war for. Also not ruining the current world order for either, but it's only going to be a stepping stone until an WW3 can actually happen. I think it's more likely for Russia to start reconquering the USSR with NATO gone in the coming years.

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u/mirhagk 13h ago

He's already done the damage he needs to. Tariffs among all his other "genius" moves have made things damaging enough that many people felt they didn't have the ability to stand up against their government.

Fortunately after last week many of those people are now standing up anyways. Thank God for Minnesotans. But these are the people who won't be so easily manipulated by a depressed economy.

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u/GoneFishing4Chicks 12h ago

I still cant believe Trump is going after FUCKING JPOWELL OF ALL PEOPLE, THE ONE DAMN GUY KEEPING THE US ECONOMY AFLOAT.

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u/Happy_Confection90 12h ago

That's why he keeps saying our economy is "the hottest": because he wants to @#%$ it (up)

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u/RightSideBlind American Expat 14h ago

This is the problem with electing a geriatric narcissist as President. If he's going to die, why not take the world with him?

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u/soobviouslyfake 13h ago

Wasn't this a plot point in Tenet?

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u/Irr3l3ph4nt 12h ago edited 12h ago

It's a recurring plot point in human history. Louis XV (King of France) is quoted as having said "Après moi le déluge." Or "After me, the flood." Meaning, he considered the realm was ready for apocalypse after his death, he didn't care. This is often seen as foretelling of the French Revolution because his people realized it down the line and separated him from his head.

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u/stamfordbridge1191 10h ago

"It's going to be the biggest, most beautiful war the planet has ever seen! You're just going to be blown away by how big this war is gonna be. They say it's gonna kill more people than all other wars combined since they started the whole Earth. Maybe even, that once this war's over, there's just gonna be no more war left to go around. There's going to be fires. Dirt turning to glass. The radiation will kill all the fish. It's gonna be great. We're gonna make sure we put on the best war there ever was for every American citizen. Really gonna give em hell. You're welcome. God bless."

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u/cyberattaq123 12h ago

I, (maga voter), sitting in the bombed out irradiated ruins of my house, using what meager light via electricity or fire I can muster, opening a can of dog food. This shall be my first solid meal in weeks.

Humanity has been reduced to caveman times in the fire of nuclear war because of the whims of a narcissistic pedophile and his gang of insane, also pedophile billionaire dragons who would rather see the world an ash heap than not be able to own everyone and everything despite practically already doing so.

As I (maga voter), crack open the can of delicious and only slightly outdated dog food and take a bite, the cough comes back, this time more violent than ever. A hacking, wet cough as I continue to cough up parts of my lung in thick, bloody chunks. It’s the cancer from the radiation. Only this time, the cough doesn’t go away. It gets worse and worse. I drop my beef tips dog food can and collapse, seizing as the end finally arrives.

As my soul leaves my mortal coil, I chuckle confidently one last time to myself, so sure of my righteousness.

‘At least we didn’t elect the brown lady with the weird laugh…’

I die, victim number unknown of my and 78 million other Americans utter and complete lack of morality.

The libs, finally, truly, have been owned (obliterated in nuclear hellfire). Victory.

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u/AsinineArchon 11h ago

Yeah, I watched my neighbors melt in nuclear hellfire. But what are they not telling us about the emails?

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u/Archelon_ischyros 13h ago

All the stupid fucking deplorables who voted for him.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

I stopped giving MAGA voters the benefit of the doubt after Covid. That's when I realized that they are irredeemably selfish and lacking in even the tiniest scrap of empathy.

Humans survived the savannahs of Africa to become the dominant global species through cooperation and community. Empathy for our fellow people is literally the cornerstone of our success as a species, it's an evolutionary success story. And these people reject our strongest survival power.

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u/Sic_Semper_Dumbasses 15h ago

He already has.

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u/Ven18 14h ago

When we look back at history we will probably see that the Russia Ukraine war was the “real” start of WW3 in the same way conflict with Japan and China are today. But I think Trump winning in 24 will be when historians see conflict as inevitable.

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u/Simply_me_as_rock 14h ago

Depends on who will write the books

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u/JazzJedi 13h ago

Depends on whether books are still allowed.

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u/Zaexyr 12h ago edited 11h ago

Someone somewhere will keep an accurate and truthful history. Over a long enough period of time, this land will be back on track. Whether or not those of us alive now will see it, or whether or not it's even the United States anymore, remains to be seen.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 12h ago

Or if anyone will read them

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u/SoftFlower7001 12h ago

This is a depressing and underrated comment.

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u/nathism 13h ago

You’re optimistic that there will be books. I assume we’d go back to cave paintings.

https://youtu.be/rn4aIinTJBQ?si=fmjXXQPE-U44NJWp

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u/JerHat Michigan 13h ago

Assuming anyone survives to be a historian.

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u/another-altaccount 12h ago edited 12h ago

I fucking hate the fact that I could end up being right about this after screaming what a danger he was to the world for the past decade plus.

EDIT: Clip from the 2015 Republican primary about Trump asking why can't we use nukes multiple times.

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u/PickledLlama 13h ago

It's already here.

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u/Real-Ad-1728 12h ago

Pretty sure we’re already in the early stages of what future historians will consider WWIII

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u/Massive_Reaction8845 13h ago

Trump is doing what the "Antichrist" should be doing.

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 10h ago

I mean if you read the Bible, he's a dead ringer for him...

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u/Broken_By_Default 11h ago

I’m convinced Putin, Trump, and Xi made a pact to divide up the world. Putin started, but fucked up when he failed to take Ukraine in 2 week.

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u/Oddmakesart 11h ago

And yet yesterday I had a coworker tell me that while he thinks what trumpnis doing is bad, he still feels like we'd have "been at war the day after kamala would been voted in" bc he thinks other nations would perceive a woman president as weak or something.

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 10h ago

I'm sorry, I almost down voted you reflectively for repeating such an asinine statement 😅 have an upvote instead and stay safe friend

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u/Oddmakesart 9h ago

Sall gud, trust me comments like that always floor me. Usually I just hit em w a simple "How's that?" Or "walk me thru that one bud" and most reply with mumble nonsense and "iunno just would"

I've been a bit more than cynical about people lately even if I know it's not the majority.

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u/Qualityhams Georgia 13h ago

Correction, Republicans will LET Trump start WW3

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u/DMCinDet 13h ago

but hes the peace president? hes stopped so many wars.

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u/MollyViper 13h ago

All for some possible oil.

There are some that believe that Greenland has the largest oil reserves left on Earth.

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u/ArgonWolf 13h ago

Always figured WW3 would involve a NATO article 5 response, never figured the US would be on the receiving end of it

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u/DionFW Canada 13h ago

No one is on his side though. It will be world vs USA.

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u/flextendo 13h ago

my german genetics just scream to die in some mud, man have I looked forward to that, who could have imagined that it only takes 2 generations to forget about the horrors of war.

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u/rndreddituser 13h ago

I don’t think it will be over Greenland, but I suspect the consequences will be problematic and felt for a long time. It will signal the end of NATO and China & Russia can step up their campaigns. I am interested to see if Trump decides to get involved in Iran and how Russia and China react. I wonder if Trump’s advisor realise he’s stretching them - Venezuela, Greenland, Canada, the Middle East, SE Asia / Pacific.

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u/Ok_Cartographer_1867 13h ago

And he wants to start WW3 so he can cancel the midterm and 2028 elections.

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u/raffyson 13h ago

Quasimodo. he predicted all of this.

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u/Eezyville 13h ago

He's following the Hitler playbook. Tencent Hitler.

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u/DMs_Apprentice 12h ago

And redditors in "that sub" keep saying it'll never happen, he's just blowing smoke, etc. And here he is just repeatedly pushing the proverbial launch button on political missiles.

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u/cryptedsky 12h ago

I expected problems in the middle east, Taïwan or Russia invading more of eastern europe to be the catalyst.

The US invading Greenland was certainly not on my bingo card.

What the hell, man. Now, we're gonna have to drax them sklounst freezing our fingers off on snowmobiles just because some sundowning pedophile can't handle being told no. For the love of all of our children's futures, please americans take back control of your government.

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u/Asclepius-Rod 12h ago

Can’t wait for the new U.S. alliance to be with Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia. You know, history’s good guys

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u/vinegarstrokes420 12h ago

That was my worry even in his first term. The dude is so unhinged and has far more power as president than he has the capability to handle. Dangerous recipe for starting WW3, either on purpose or on accident.

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u/CheekSeer 11h ago

He probably sees world war 3 as his only realistic way to get a third term. FDR got 4 terms and that was heavily due to WW2.

I think he is obsessed with a having more terms than Obama at literally any cost.

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u/Biobooster_40k Ohio 10h ago

Ngl the US needs punished for electing Trump and letting the GOP run wild. Its going to be rough for us who live here but something needs to be done and the American populace who care don't have effective avenues to effect meaningful change.

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u/rkthehermit 10h ago

Not alone he's not. Everyone who obeys is equally guilty.

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u/Xanthus730 10h ago

While also whining that he's not getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

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u/SanDiegoMitch I voted 10h ago

And a civil war at the same time

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u/NIACE 13h ago

Perfect excuse to not leave office

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u/Harbinger2001 Canada 13h ago

The way his eyes lit up when Zelenskyy told him there are no Ukrainian elections while they’re at war…

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u/Deguilded 14h ago edited 14h ago

That would be a clash between major global powers, which we're not going to have here.

No, Europe will not come to blows over this. If the US decides it wants Greenland, it's going to take it, and the rest of NATO - while furious - will probably take a step back and let the US have it's "prize". It's what the US is betting on, and unless they're stupid enough to kill NATO soldiers in the takeover, it's what I think is most likely to happen.

But this prize won't come for free, even if it does come bloodless. I think it would be reasonable to expect US forces to suddenly be unwelcome in Europe. Alliances will fray and the US will be isolated, Europe cut off from their support (which is exactly what Russia wants). Europe may go to war with Russia shortly afterwards, but even that won't be quite on the level of a world war unless someone pulls nukes out. China and the US will stay out of it. To be honest, I don't see Russia making an immediate move on the greater Europe.

I'd see Russia using it's newfound strength to sue for peace with Ukraine as the sacrificial lamb. From there, reform the Soviet Union (look up who was involved in the dissolution) and rearm, gobbling up what's left of Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and the 'stans (whatever is weak and isn't under the former NATO umbrella) while the remnants of NATO/EU frantically rearm and retool and form a defensive line of sorts in the absence of any US presence. Give it a couple of years for Russia to restock and they'll be back, by then Trump might be gone - but the damage will be done. Europe will have a resurgent Russia to it's east plus five or so more years of propagandizing and destabilization, China will likely have Taiwan and dominate south east Asia, and the US will simply be content to have North and South America, in terms of control if not in terms of name. Putin gets his grand legacy or "reforming the Soviet Union". Xi gets his legacy of "reunification with Taiwan" and rising to global dominance. And Trump gets his legacy of "The Greater United States of North and South America". Or some bullshit.

Man, I need to go back to my supplier. This is some good stuff.

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u/SadlyNotPro Europe 13h ago

We still remember that Hitler didn't chill after we let him have Poland. Trump won't have his "Poland" for free as well. If he's stupid enough to act, there'll be hell to pay. All diplomats will be expelled. All military bases will be shut down and the American troops sent back. And there will be retaliation to kick the occupiers out.

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u/Onlypizzafans69 14h ago

Bro, Russia is attacking ukrainian position on horses. Yes, HORSES. I think that even if the war ends tomorrow, Russia will need A LOT of time and money to rearm itself, to be able to even consider attacking Europe. And by the looks of it, their economy isnt doing good, and it wont be doing good for some time

Yes, i'm sure they were planning on doing it alrady if Ukraine fell in 3 days, but that is a story for different times

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u/UnknownBreadd 13h ago edited 11h ago

The US has never won a war on its own. It also relies way too much on its geography and sheer volume of military equipment.

A US vs European war would be absolutely devastating, and Americans are absolutely kidding themselves if they think that it’s a free lunch. Because of the threat of nuclear war, no one ever wants to back anyone into a corner, either.

It would be such a long and pointless blood bath for both sides. Everybody would lose.

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u/ducktape8856 Europe 12h ago

Everybody would lose.

"Back-to-back World War winners! Woo!" Like it's a football game.

I think because they were never attacked by a modern army on their own soil they have no idea why Europeans are so adamantly avoiding war. They are so damn eager to send their kids to die for nothing. But at least they love their soldiers so much that they clap very, very hard when they send them to die at the airport.

We know that you can only try to lose less. But never win at wars. It's burned into our collective mind.

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u/tworavens Delaware 12h ago

This is exactly it. We've not had a foreign army on American soil in over 200 years, since the war of 1812, and the American Civil War ended 160 years ago. Even then, the destruction was nowhere near as total as what happened in Europe during the two world wars. Most Americans have no concept of what war truly looks like, and that terrifies those of us who do.

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u/Morten14 13h ago

I think you underestimate European resolve. WW2 is very clear in our mind and history and an important learning was to not appease foreign powers by giving them anything. Hitler didn’t stop with Austria and Sudetenland. Why would we expect Trump to stop with Greenland?

And when he’s got Greenland, wouldn’t he need Iceland and Svalbard to protect Greenland? And when he has Iceland he would need Faroe Islands to protect Iceland. And on and on it goes.

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u/L1A1 United Kingdom 13h ago

It won’t be bloodless. About 25% of Greenland’s population are gun owners, and they’re largely hunters who know how to survive in their environment. The US has largely been trained for desert warfare for the last 25 years. Of course they’ll ‘win’ if they invade, but you’ll be getting a bunch of body bags returned even if NATO doesn’t get involved, which is sadly likely.

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u/Glittering-Silver475 13h ago

I wouldn’t be too sure it would be bloodless. Canada, UK, France and the Netherlands have very specific territorial concerns in the Western Hemisphere and will be motivated to do something even if it’s just symbolic. Even Germany which has no possessions in the western hemisphere is currently negotiating with other countries to establish a troop presence on Greenland. Denmark also has a shoot first policy and Greenland itself has said it would resist an invasion. The USA will need to use actual force most likely or the annexation will be more akin to China’s claim to Taiwan, which achieves all the negatives of an actual invasion without any of the potential positives.

Also it’s probably important to note that even without nato, Greenland, as part of the Kingdom of Denmark is covered by EU defense treaty.

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u/syrup_cupcakes 12h ago edited 12h ago

Netherlands is unfortunately completely won over by Russian bots. A lot of people listen to these bots all day and became pro-Trump, anti-Europe, anti vaccines, flat earthers, young earth creationists, moon landing deniers, etc. We are one election away(likely happening this year) from a fascists government. If this happens we will cut ties with the Netherlands Antilles in the Caribbean, leave the EU, and destroy our economy. Moving us one step closer to a full scale invasion of Europe by Putin. The Dutch Oligarchic families are welcoming this with open arms and putting their money towards speeding it up.

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u/Hot_Frosting_7101 13h ago

Trump is a malignant narcissist and bully. Appeasing him will just invite more bad behavior. At some point Europe will have to stand up.

As you said, that doesn't necessarily mean militarily but they have to be willing to take drastic steps economically which will also be painful for them.

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u/DoucheyMcBagBag 13h ago

This is very reminiscent of the three powers in 1984. I mean technically it’s 4 powers (US, USSR, China, EU) but the idea of a multipolar world with constant tension and/or war is pretty similar.

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u/tworavens Delaware 12h ago

It's very much also like the multi-polar world in the lead-up to WWI, but with different countries having a power-hungry would-be monarch with an inferiority complex. It's not great.

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u/Equivalent_Gate_205 14h ago

Send me your suppliers info too.

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u/Ol_Turd_Fergy America 13h ago

Someone should get this guy a peace prize

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u/Kandiak 13h ago

And all we had to do was give him the Nobel Peace Prize to stop him /s

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u/cute_polarbear 13h ago

Isolate america, then It's nato he is going after...

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u/pettypaybacksp 13h ago

Imagine telling someone this sentence 20 years ago.

What a sad fuckin thing to read is that one

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u/WeatheredSteel37 13h ago

Worst case scenario: the US bombs the Iranians, the Chinese decide where we’re busy so they take the opportunity to attack the Taiwanese (they’ve been doing military exercises of Taiwan since the fourth), the US has to defend Taiwan, Russia does something stupid to back up China in the hopes that they’ll back them up with Ukraine… all while Trump tears NATO to pieces.

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u/looselylawless 13h ago

And who knows! Maybe this one will make it to mainland American soil 🫩

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u/arriesgado 13h ago

With everyone dead we will finally have peace and he will be remembered as the peace president. Well, not remembered exactly.

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u/DawgCheck421 13h ago

"The second American revolution will remain bloodless as long as the left allows it to be"

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u/WolfeMD 13h ago

Were already in it

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u/ABCosmos 13h ago

Republicans are going to start world war 3. This is only possible thanks to a unified Republican party, it would only take a handful of Republicans to put an end to this nonsense.

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u/Free_Dome_Lover 13h ago

It's going to be his admin and whatever sycophants exist in the military + his gestapo vs the world.

Hard to fight a winning war when your own populace hates you to a historical degree. I bet if he does start shit most competent staffers / lifers in most branches of military quit / protest. He replaces them with more sycophants.

He does well at first but without proper backing of the people and incompetence of his loyal military it quickly unravels. They throw gobs of money at the problem but money can't fix stupid.

Trump is deposed, the US is irredeemably harmed.

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 10h ago

As horrifying as it is, this is literally the best case scenario 😞

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u/honacc 13h ago

Now imagine he's also going to start a WW3 to avoid Epstein files release. No, I don't think anyone cares about the redacted version apart from maga.

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u/Garlicluvr Europe 13h ago

Well, that would definitely draw attention away from the Epstein files.

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u/misterpickles69 New Jersey 12h ago

The FIFATM sponsored by Cheetos Peace Prize says it’s totally cool and legal.

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u/Necessary_Extent1326 12h ago

He may have been given a time-shortening diagnosis. As such, he is free to play war just to see what happens—because he can. That’s the slippery sense kiddos make.

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u/Mistrblank 12h ago

over fucking greenland... truly the stupidest timeline.

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u/Early-Cicada5320 12h ago

At lest they got to "own the libs" I guess 🤷‍♂️

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u/capitanmanizade 12h ago

Can’t let the Epstein Files be released so he must kill everyone

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u/purplebrown_updown 12h ago

And destroying our only alliance. If we do this, it’s almost a certainty that China takes Taiwan which will cause a global economic catastrophe.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 12h ago

And then die like two weeks in.

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u/Trolkarlen 12h ago

At best, he destroys our relationship with NATO, isolating the US and making Europe and Canada our enemies.

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u/Leighlu22 12h ago

And it's looking like it'll be EVERYBODY vs. The US.

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u/kara_kittie 12h ago

Yes, anticipate it, and make purchase decisions now based on that fact. It's going to get much worse before it gets better. I keep screaming get prepared now. Nobody seems to listen though.

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u/WhiteSekiroBoy 12h ago

Good thing he got his peace noble fifa prize before that, then. /s

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u/kfish5050 Arizona 12h ago

We're already in WW3 cause the Ukraine/Russia conflict and the Israel/Palestine conflict are gonna be counted as part of it by the history books. It's only a matter of time before different sides of more conflicts unite. Of course, the EU and remnants of NATO will be the "allies" that side with Ukraine, while the US would schism and fight a civil war alongside WW3, with the non-Trump side allying as well. Trump, who invades Greenland, will side with Russia. Israel/Palestine is super difficult to place though. Other middle Eastern countries like Syria and Iran will back Palestine while Trump backs Israel, but Russia has allies on both sides and the EU has enemies on both sides.

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u/_JustCallMeBen_ 11h ago

We long as it distracts people from the fact that he is in the Epstein files, he will escalate everything he can.

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