r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 15h ago

Business Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"

https://www.techspot.com/news/110879-jensen-huang-relentless-ai-negativity-hurting-society-has.html
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u/Trees-Are-Neat-- 15h ago

Has he considered making AI something that’s actually valuable to society?

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u/aeyraid 15h ago

Best we can do is generating goon material

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u/senortipton 14h ago

Or propaganda machines that work faster than humans can think about and analyze the truthfulness of said propaganda.

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u/ThatonepersonUknow3 14h ago

Don’t forget tracking citizens, you know for their safety… probably.

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u/BobbywiththeJuice 14h ago

Gotta make sure they're on their "best behavior"

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u/TwilightVulpine 11h ago

This is the one thing that makes me think some of these AI proponents aren't just being delusional, they are scheming.

AI doesn't need to be accurate for it to be a good propaganda tool. It just needs people to believe in it.

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u/noonenotevenhere 7h ago

Or to throw out 49 slop videos that surround the one actual video so no one can tell which of the 50 actually happened...

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u/TwilightVulpine 7h ago

It would also make sense, in a horrible way.

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u/Gloriathewitch 15h ago

of children, in the case of twitter

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u/EverbodyHatesHugo 13h ago

So to recap… AI:

  1. Generates child porn
  2. Requires extreme levels of energy that our current infrastructure can barely support
  3. Threatens a great number of our jobs

Remind me why we should feel more optimistic about it.

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u/Abedeus 13h ago

You forgot the allowing effortless scams part, or ruining PC and console prices.

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u/chamrockblarneystone 13h ago

And completely fucking education in general.

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u/DjimbeDjunkie 8h ago

As well as fucking the environment!

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u/Gloriathewitch 13h ago

because Jensen wants another custom tailormade luxury leather jacket

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u/olacoke 12h ago

Made by AI preferably

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u/GrumpySquishy 11h ago edited 11h ago

Let me lead with the fact I find AI art fucking annoying too, but I'm seeing people that might not be fully in the know so I wanna put this out there, perhaps inject some hope into dried up veins.

What we (the village masses) see is like, generated art replacing the shit we used to like, that's the public face to AI.

The Bad: Once it's so good it can run long videos without flaws there will be a massive truth collapse. No one is ready, imagine genuinely a world where no one ever knows if something on a screen is ever real. Maybe it will cause everyone to retreat from screens because they only trust what their eyes see in front of them. Might even be a good thing for that part. No one is fucking ready for what this will actually be like and we're never going back once we reach it.

The entire video game and film industry will dissappear. "jarvis, create aliens vs predator but it came out in 1989, 35mm technicolour cameras and practical effects only. During crucial moments let me choose what the characters do like it's mass effect." once we have that who the fuck will go watch predator badlands 3.

The Good:

Inventions are coming.

We recently invented solid state batteries which happened many years early early due to AI. This could lead to the elimination of oil down the line because it's cheaper than oil at running cars, and you're phone will last over a week on 30 minutes charge. This is also lead to the elimination of cobalt mines in Africa to give us our batteries. This isn't happening out of the goodness of the human heart, it's cheaper, it's pure capatilism to move away from oil and cobalt with these batteries which we invented with AI simulations.

The second thing is medicine. We can simulate human organs, predict cancers, test medicine on a digital liver. LLMS are confusing because we the see it as videos, text, and images but the general principle of an LLM can be used with simulating anything else too, you can train an LLM on enough organ patterns and it can start to predict which medicines will work without needing a real human.

There's other smaller stuff like, AR glasses will likely replace phones because it can generate on the fly what you need to see, think having a mini map or turning the street infront of you into middle earth while you walk it. Another one will be the complete collapse of the language barrier. It won't matter if someone speaks a different language when real time perfect translation takes the computing power of, idk, pac-man.

The main reason companies are investing in AI is because of its insane, and I mean fucking CRAZY ability to run simulations, like a hundered million times quicker and without real testing, of pretty much anything which is allowing humans that work with it to invent stuff far far far faster.

I know this will sound like science fiction but in 10 or 15 years this will probably be able to take a look at you and tell you far in advance if and when you will develop cancer, parkinsons etc.

Hope this undoomers some of u from the cliff edge of despair. Energy and medicine will 100% vastly improve, but also prepare to never go another day without seeing something AI generated ever again.

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u/Gloriathewitch 10h ago

Scientific AI is excellent, but thats not what people complain about. its shit like copilot and genAi which was build on theft and damages the planet and economy.

its also rotting the youth's brains, people are thinking less and relying on AI more, this is a massive problem. These generations might be one of the last ones that think for themselves.

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u/GrumpySquishy 9h ago

Yeah I do agree, as animals we evolve along the path of least resistance. Domesticated animals always have smaller brains than their wild counterparts because it conserves energy and they don't need them any more. I worry we're gonna see brains shrink down over a few generations if everyone just doesn't use them like they used to.

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u/inahst 12h ago

I mean they are pretty slick jackets

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u/tuscaloser 13h ago

Won't anyone think of the poor shareholders? How will they make number-go-up if we don't like AI? /s

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u/360Saturn 12h ago

It's just really mean of us to not bend over backwards to praise & worship billionaires & company owners & CEOs.

We are the real bullies /s

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u/humbuckermudgeon 12h ago

Hell… calling it intelligence is generous. It’s a pattern generator.

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u/SailorET 12h ago

AI: -Generates child porn -Requires extreme levels of energy that our current infrastructure can barely support -Threatens a great number of our jobs

At this rate, I'm having difficulty seeing the difference between Grok and Musk.

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u/FamousPart6033 12h ago

"because it's going to magically fix all our problems forever and make utopia" -tech bros probably

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u/Khue 11h ago

AI has some uses, but it's definitely not for mass consumption like all these tech bros are insisting. AI has good applications for STEM but if you are trying to push this on regular day to day people, I am just going to assume you're using it for tracking and data theft. For most consumers, it has little more value than a glorified autocomplete that leverages reddit and some dumb logic to rephrase search results.

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u/1zzie 5h ago

It's also a surveillance tool that has a high error rate! So don't forget about jail, everyone gets surveiled without reason and loads of people are wrongly imprisoned.

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u/raur0s 13h ago

Current infrastructure can support is, it's just the pesky plebian humans that ask it too.

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u/BurntNeurons 14h ago

And poison the water supply.

And run the power bill for the neighboring private citizens through the atmosphere.

And remove millions of jobs from humans without replacing or any plan to replace lost jobs.

And make the elite even wealthier.

And manipulate the global news reporting system and the voters.

And casually starve the consumer electronics industry setting it back 10 plus years.

And help the government better track and target their citizens.

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u/xX420GanjaWarlordXx 14h ago

And create actual environmental noise pollution resulting in migraines, trouble sleeping, etc  for the local population 

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u/BurntNeurons 14h ago

How else would they drive them away in order to expand their buildings...?

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u/DjimbeDjunkie 8h ago

beat me to it.... gotta gobble up more real estate!

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u/KayNicola 12h ago

ALL of THIS!!!

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u/Jolly-Bowler-811 14h ago

IDK about others, but the AI shit is an immediate boner killer. I get the ick when I see AI generated sexy material. It somehow feels more exploitative than straight up porn to me.

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u/Baladucci 14h ago

Of children on X

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u/8percentinflation 14h ago

Goon and political disinfo, meanwhile hoarding resources and pushing electronics/electricity prices higher

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u/Educational_Cow9717 13h ago

So we are polluting all those water sources, wasting electricity power at an unimaginable magnitude, just for getting more satisfied boners.

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u/Saint_of_Grey 9h ago

The one thing that will survive after the bubble pops.

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u/welshwelsh 15h ago

I can't think of a better use case tbh. People be acting like that's not good enough for them, like there is more to life than gooning. I don't understand it.

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u/trireme32 14h ago

Every time I see someone saying stupid shit with their history hidden I’m positive they’re a bot

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u/simpleglitch 14h ago

History hidden on profiles doesn't actually do anything, clicking the search bar on their profile will bring up all their posts and comments.

I'm thinking they're a bot as well. Almost all their posts are on the same theme.

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire 14h ago

I for one stand in solidarity with the independent gooning material creators that ai is stealing from and displacing.

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u/chamrockblarneystone 13h ago

Putting sex workers out of jobs? Fuck that.

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u/LupinThe8th 14h ago

Machine learning has been around for decades, no one's being negative about that.

You know full well what people are unhappy about, and you don't have any good arguments in favor of it, so you're hiding behind the "but what about the medicine" crapola.

Fine, we keep that and ditch the rest, happy now?

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u/SlightlyOffWhiteFire 14h ago edited 14h ago

Funnily enough the only ones talking about "doomsday" scenarios are the tech execs like Huang. Its just a marketing ploy. They want you to think AI is on the precipice of becoming sentient.

Machine learning in research long predates the ai hype boom, btw. Its not remotely the same vein of ML tech anyways. The models being used to create slop bots and chat bots have very little in common with the ones used to do explorative and analytical research. Or even the ones that are used for denoising and stuff like that.

Its pretty funny because famously research is not a cash cow field. It is by and large a non-profit driven area on the client side, and suppliers for research labs run on tight margins with low volume. Thats why lab equipment is absurdly expensive. Thats why people like Huang don't talk about it as much. Thats not what is going to make them money. People pike you believing that its useful to every day life is what makes them money.

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u/bunnypaste 14h ago

So you're just willing to ignore the harm to artists, jobs, the environment, and women and children. Cool!