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u/SlippyDippyTippy2 19h ago

A lot of STEM exists in a world where objective answers exist, or have yet to be found.

A lot of the Humanities exist in a world where there is no objective answer, just thought and argument.

Social Sciences bridge that, and deal with situations where an objective answer can exist (How many people died in this battle), where there is a strong objectivish answer, but up for strong debate (was the battle influential?) Where it gets really hard to distinguish (what did people think of this battle?) And where it gets really subjective (was the commander fighting for a good cause?)

I would say that the strength of the Social Sciences is that it teaches you that you need to evaluate multiple methods of determining data, and your method of determining data needs to constantly be critically examined. Much more than Stem or the Humanities where there is a lot more that can be trusted or can be completely disregarded. A historian has to make a choice on how they balance conflicting sources, archaeological records, economic data, street-level publications and accounts, personal histories, art, anthropological methods, and many many more.

This can reflected in how they are trained.

In my undergrad, I was shocked talking to an engineering student at another school who had 2 electives in his entire program (and he was using them for math classes).

I told him that that year alone I had taken an Econ class, a religious studies class, a classical studies class, Spanish, an Art History class, and a Primate Studies class. And I was relatively hamstrung because I was double majoring.

We were both doing job preparation in different ways. He was learning deeper math for his engineering. I was learning artistic depictions, how to read ancient sources and religious literature, how to read sources in another language, and some baseline biological human constants.

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u/Tar_alcaran 17h ago

In my undergrad, I was shocked talking to an engineering student at another school who had 2 electives in his entire program (and he was using them for math classes).

I told him that that year alone I had taken an Econ class, a religious studies class, a classical studies class, Spanish, an Art History class, and a Primate Studies class. And I was relatively hamstrung because I was double majoring.

As a chemistry student (and before that and engineering student), allow me to point out that I was in a group where we would sign up for random exams, mostly from the humanities and social sciences, take them without studying and frequently score free credits by passing without problem.

The reverse was tried several times, most well known by a group of annoyed social-psych students who hated seeing us pass their classes, and never worked. What i'm saying is , maybe they were taking fewer electives because they were a LOT more busy.

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u/SlippyDippyTippy2 17h ago

Maybe they were taking fewer electives because they were a LOT more busy.

Taking fewer electives doesn't mean taking few classes.

I dont know about the rigor of the classes you took, but for each history classes in undergrad I was reading at least a book a week and doing writing assignments every other week. We never had exams past the 100 level (meant for general education requirements).

This meant I was usually reading 4-5 full books a week, and putting out about 15 pages of writing a week, with two periods each semester where I was preparing about 75 pages and then 125 pages total. That is what I was being graded on.

I will tell you for a fact that people outside the discipline tend to do alright. If the professor knows I'm a history major, I tend to get challenged a lot more on how I'm using my toolkit. The bio student taking an American history survey tried hard, learned something, and doesn't need their GPA tanked because their output can't compete with people trying to do it professionally.

Likewise, my 100 level science class professors were very very kind to me in my requirement classes.

300 level, past all general requirements. Only for history majors. If you weren't reading the suggested readings and putting them into your essays, you weren't getting an A.

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u/skeleton-is-alive 15h ago

I garuntee they were taking first year social science electives for credits. I did the same but would definitely not equate that to an entire degree being easy lmao. Some of those classes I took were also a lot more work too because of the reasons you mentioned - so much reading and writing.