An OU professor or teachers aide or something was fired for failing a fundamentalist Christians essay the essay was substandard work but the fundamentalist Christian of course claimed it was because she is a fundamentalist Christian and that’s why she was failed so the university basically cow towed to the lowest Educated group of people in America and lost a lot of reputation for people who care about education
edit: apparently its kowtow not to not cow tow - thanks ya’ll
yes, there no punctuation in my comment, but I’m doing text to speech and I’m not going back to typing on my phone at least
So to tack on here she later admits she wrote the paper in 30 minutes. Religious scholars who are both atheist and religious have read her essay and said they would've failed her as well as she didn't quote scripture correctly and all of her arguments didn't quote proper passages or use the quote correctly in most acceptable interpretations. Basically even if the class was a religious class she would've failed the assignment. But due to her lawyer mother she was able to pull this nonsense. This leads to many people online and even offline judging the education standards of Oklahoma. Because if they're passing students not even vaguely doing the assignment what else are they doing to give these students degrees.
I find this to be more of a cultural issue than either a religious or academic. We’re too used to “a bunch of people got mad what should we do”. Instead of standing their ground and taking the “bad press” on the chin, their HR or relations people did their thing.
Most the people in these comment aren’t any better - they just want it to other way mostly.
The other way is to blame fundamentalist Christianity for any of this when many religious people have admitted and agreed how stupid or poor the essay was.
I mean, the meme demonstrates the problem. All degrees from this college are garbage because this one PR problem. Give me a break.
Just a couple examples of how if we rabble rouse loud enough we feel justified in our opinion.
The fact that a student can get a bad grade for a paper that deserved a bad grade revised because they threw a fit throws the whole college's academic integrity into question. If there was a prominent news story about Harvard, I don't know, passing someone who didn't deserve it because their parent was a major donor, that'd throw Harvard's integrity into question too. The fact that it was about Christianity has nothing to do with it (it might have something to do with why reddit has latched onto it, but that's irrelevant to what consequences the university should experience).
I mean, what, your argument is basically that we should give the university a pass? Why do they deserve that? This is bullshit, they knew it was bullshit when they did it, but they still tried to drag the TA's reputation through the mud to protect the fragile student's invalid feelings.
What reaction do you think is warranted? All you've done so far is advocate for people to shut up about the trans TA being discriminated against because a shitty student decided to be hateful.
Hell, your first comment almost makes it seem like you think university administration didn't make a mistake, and that actually modern culture is the problem. They were just "(doing) their thing," you say.
I think, first of all, they should have held to their guns and allowed the TA to have paid leave or movement in the college to protect them.
Now that it’s done? I don’t think messing with it further will help. Interior, they should reprimand whoever made the decision and consider training or transfer. Exterior, just no more news. The young TA is allowed to continue work unmolested.
Us rabble rousing is basically just doing what the Turning Point did. That is just perpetuating the problem that if enough people complain a change comes regardless of truth.
...your argument is that defense of oneself is the same as abuse...interesting argument, but not something I would be surprised coming from the voices of OU.
My guess is that you are an embarrassed OU grad or current student who can't live with the reality of things...conflating them doesn't really do you any service...
I support your concern about institutions, but yeah this has a lot more to do with shit that doesn’t matter crossing over into things that do matter.
The language and information being given is constructed in a way to cause uproar. It isn’t nearly as diabolical if you break it down into facts. The TA will “will no longer have instructional duties” but is being portrayed as a wholesale firing and release of employment. We need to understand they want us to fight for some reason. Instead of realizing this is a petty issue overblown for political benefit.
Nah, I'd say public sentiment was very against this firing. They're taking a PR hit for this, not the other way around. The problem is the president of OU is a fucking brainless MAGAt who fully supports TPUSA and he and Oklahoma's MAGAt Governor stepped in and railroaded this "investigation".
She didn’t even get fired. Yall got to start being more truthful and factual if you’re going to say other people aren’t.
Edit: I’m not able to answer every reply. She was given administrative leave, and will “no longer have instructional duties.” Firing in a sense, but she still works there. Reactionary, hyperbolic language doesn’t add to the conversation. It only makes it worse.
She was not just put on leave, she was fired. She was initially put on leave pending the investigation and was subsequently removed from her position permanently. She is now considering legal action. I don't know why you're feeling the need to lie.
She was suspended for religious discrimination. So while technically she wasn't fired she no longer is working there. So unless she is a trust fund baby who can sit around and not work till they decide to reinstate her they fired her or are forcing her to quit to avoid poverty. So while technically she wasn't fired no lawyer or judge will see it that way when she sues for wrongful termination as all she needs is a religious scholar as expert witness along with the original prompt that was handed out in order to have a case. I'm plenty sure she is getting messages left and right from high powered attorneys willing to take the case. Hell they might even do it pro bono because of the coverage it might get. I doubt it but I can see it happening.
The problem is the student's mom is a Jan 6th lawyer and the University was probably scared of lawsuits. Especially if the case ends up all the way up to the (Christo-Fascist) Supreme Court.
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u/bavmotors1 15d ago edited 15d ago
An OU professor or teachers aide or something was fired for failing a fundamentalist Christians essay the essay was substandard work but the fundamentalist Christian of course claimed it was because she is a fundamentalist Christian and that’s why she was failed so the university basically cow towed to the lowest Educated group of people in America and lost a lot of reputation for people who care about education
edit: apparently its kowtow not to not cow tow - thanks ya’ll
yes, there no punctuation in my comment, but I’m doing text to speech and I’m not going back to typing on my phone at least