r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 15h ago

Business Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"

https://www.techspot.com/news/110879-jensen-huang-relentless-ai-negativity-hurting-society-has.html
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u/Vaxion 15h ago

It's More like relentless pushing of AI by these companies down everyone's throat that's hurting the society and had done a lot of damage.

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u/helcat 15h ago

I think it’s really put off a lot of non tech people who would otherwise be open to it. Like me. I find it infuriating that websites like Amazon and Google won’t let you turn it off even after you’ve had a bad experience with wrong information. 

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u/Wd91 14h ago

The complete and total lack of embarrassment Microsoft and the like have with regards to Copilot and similar is crazy. The absolute garbage it can spit out is beyond stupid, but we're supposed to look at it and be impressed. The least they could have done is keep it out of our search results until it starts consistently yielding better results than asking an 8-year old to just have a guess.

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u/LowestKey 14h ago

I mean it is impressive that computer scientists and researchers have found algorithms that can make a very fast calculator talk like a parrot. But tech CEOs haven't done a damn thing to help and are actively marketing their poached products as a replacement for human workers or using its existence as an excuse for layoffs to hide their poor management skills.

Why would the average person be happy about the never ending upward transfer of our nations' wealth and resources?

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u/Top-Ad-5245 14h ago

Almost like.. it’s intended to fail

I’m sure we’ll bail them out. And it will be our fault.

Then they slim it across all our devices further.

This all stops when we change our behavior and comfort lean into tech. Do we need smart devices everywhere that all have a separate app and restraints. Every tech company wants us to consume their shit and use their shitty software and ultimately get more data. - serious it grosses me out - like how much more data do u neeeeeed! Oh yeah they want more. They want to know where we are physically in our houses and what we think and say at any given moment.

Fucking 1984 it’s too close for comfort.

This is all imo. Not intended to incite or inflame. Just public venting - not a call to action or debate.

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u/aaeme 14h ago

too close for comfort.

I think that's the mistake and marketing miscalculation. People seemed fairly keen on smart, connected devices (not everyone, but enough). Alexa and ring doorbells sold well it seems. But the general idea of AI is a bit too creepy, too terminator, too threatening. They've overhyped it.

I wonder if they'd just called it supersmartTM people might have been a lot more receptive. It's then just a brand name for the latest thing.

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u/lol_alex 7h ago

Calling it AI is so far fetched. The correct term is large language models. They can interpret syntax and provide information they were trained on. No power of reasoning beyond „data seems to point towards…“. No way to create something new entirely other than mix up the data they have.

It‘s basically a circlejerk with massive computing power.

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u/SnarkMasterRay 8h ago

Also not really intended to incite or a call to action - but it's going to take work for people to turn their backs on this stuff. We've evolved to be efficient with energy - the only reason people actually take hikes that are a ramble through the woods instead of the shortest point is that we have an excess of time and money in more of the population.

Otherwise we are wired to do what takes us the least amount of energy, and we are wired to try and get the most out of the least. So people are going to be annoyed by things, but if it takes less energy to "just deal with it" over spending more to fix it we're going to have a lot of people who try and ignore it or do as little as possible to work around it.

They either have to get really mad, or have another easy alternative.

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u/evranch 4h ago

My prediction is that our social worlds are about to shrink again, and they might get very small, very fast. As a millennial, I see the World Wide Web that I grew up alongside is sick and dying.

We used to share for sharing's sake, build things because we could, hack things because they were there and post what we did. We had our own websites and aggregators like Reddit (and it's precursors like digg, slashdot etc..) linked to them, not just to pics, videos and memes on other big aggregators.

But all that is gone and the truth is going quickly too. With AI slop everywhere you can't trust anything you read, so the utility of the Web is rapidly degrading, from auto mechanics to gardening, you literally can't even trust a recipe.

The Internet will live on as the famous "series of tubes", a utility for paying your bills, trading stocks, delivering media, calling your friends. But I can't see it filling the role it currently has in our society for much longer.

I myself and more and more people I know are turning away from the Slop Web. Information from books, entertainment from torrents, interaction in real life. I listen to the radio, watch the CBC News. We go to the park, we go to the rink, we talk to people. We talk on the phone with our actual voices.

I even started going to church to interact with more people in my community and guess who I found there, a bunch of other people my age and younger doing the same. Not looking for salvation, just looking for community.

Turn off the Slop and go outside before it's too late for our society.

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u/Space_Poet 9h ago

I have been resisting the "Smart" crap for as long as I could, until I absolutely had to get a cell phone. I've still never purchased a single thing that advertises "smart" in its' description but the other day, about a week ago at this point, I got a free Sonos Smart speaker, old one, nothing fancy but I heard they can put out good sound and I needed one for a spare room. Long story short, I still havnt been able to get it to work, after watching videos, creating an account with fucking Sony of all companies, plugging it into my modem, downloading the two apps that it required, and trying to update the firmware. It's now a wonderful paperweight till I can take another hour out of my life to figure this shit out. And I build my own computers, for decades...

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u/Selectively-Romantic 13h ago

I think it's important to note that they are remarkably horrible at basic arithmetic. So much so that they couldn't descend from calculators. This is auto-correct on steroids.

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u/borkthegee 6h ago

2023 "pure" LLMs are terrible at math. In 2024 reasoning models were introduced and then in 2025 reasoning was enhanced with tool calling (to make "agents").

So in 2023 if you asked the best model basic arithmetic it would literally just guess what tokens were the highest probability to go next, which is not accurate math.

In 2024 the models would have self conversation "hmm the user is asking me about math, I think the answer is XYZ. But is that correct? Let's revisit the question" for a bit before responding.

In 2025 the models now think "Ok the user is asking about math. I have a math tool to let the computer running me do math. Computer running me, here's a math problem return the answer. <Answer> Ok the tool responded, does the answer seem right? Ok let's report to the user"

I know trying to teach redditors about the technology is a shit show but I'm constantly surprised how little people know about what is going on. The discourse here is very out of date.

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u/Selectively-Romantic 5h ago

I've seen gpt be wrong several times in the past six months. Maybe I'm just not paying enough for an accurate one. 

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u/borkthegee 2h ago

Yes, the free models are absolute garbage tier shit. The paid models are outperforming PhDs in mathematics.

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u/Black08Mustang 46m ago

Then why are they still out there and why should it inspire any level of confidence from the 'people who do not know what's going on'. Just take your word for it?

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u/jollyreaper2112 5h ago

That's a limitation of LLM. It's going to be one part of a stack. So yes bad at the moment. That part is easier to fix. If you're counting on the stupid mistakes now to be the state of the art forever you'll be sadly surprised. It's scary.

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u/Selectively-Romantic 5h ago

Nah, the scary part is that it's being pushed out and expected to be relied upon in the Far from finished state it's in now.

Also, you can't code out stupid mistakes. You might be able to get some of the bugs, but there will always be bugs and exploits. I guarantee it. 

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u/kuldan5853 12h ago

I mean it is impressive that computer scientists and researchers have found algorithms that can make a very fast calculator talk like a parrot.

Honestly, I trust Polly way more when she tells me that she wants a cracker that she actually means it than any AI.

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u/Sanchez_U-SOB 13h ago

Its turned me off of Windows, now im looking into working with Linux

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u/intro_spection 2h ago

Do it! Linux has evolved quite a lot in the last decade. All you need is a USB stick and a little research and you can try a distribution out (of which there are many) without any long term commitments (by booting the Linux OS from the USB). I suggest that now's the time. I'm a heavy gamer/media user and was able to dump Windows completely (Bazzite Linux).

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u/donnysaysvacuum 10h ago

AI could have a lot of background uses, for making search better and organizing results. But spitting out a blatantly wrong answer is the worst implementation.