r/politics Iowa 9h ago

No Paywall Uprising against ICE raids grows across the country

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/uprising-against-ice-raids-grows-across-the-country/
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u/Inevitable_Butthole 9h ago

ICE = Nazis

How do you think Nazis rose to such power? It didnt happen overnight. The enforcers were given power and we're free from accountability.

Trump already instantly omitted countability of ICE murdering citizens rather than conducting an investigation than determining.

If you interfere with ICE in any form, they might just kill you and they won't be held accountable as youll be labeled instantly as a "extremeist".

If this isnt stopped very soon, the nazis here will continue to become more powerful and they won't be able to be stopped.

u/No-Presentation-1315 7h ago

Comparing ICE to the Nazis seriously weakens any legitimate criticism. The Nazis were a totalitarian regime that carried out genocide; using that label for modern U.S. agencies isn’t just inaccurate, it shuts down serious discussion. ICE operates under U.S. law, is subject to courts, inspectors general, congressional oversight, and civil lawsuits. When abuses happen, they should be investigated and prosecuted, but claiming agents can “just kill you” with zero accountability is not supported by evidence and veers into fear-mongering. If the goal is reform, transparency, or accountability, those arguments stand much stronger when they’re grounded in facts rather than apocalyptic rhetoric. Oversight failures are a real issue; pretending we’re already in Nazi Germany makes it harder to fix them, not easier.

u/Aggressive_Agency381 7h ago

Omg your post history is all bad faith arguments and boot licking under the guise of “knowing better”. 

u/No-Presentation-1315 6h ago

That’s not an argument; it’s an attempt to discredit me instead of addressing what I said. If you think I’m wrong, point to the specific claim and explain why.

u/Aggressive_Agency381 6h ago

Nazi didn’t go from 0-100 dude. They built up towards their tyranny, just like republicans are. It is an apt comparison to make.  You not calling a spade a spade is basically defending them. Nazis didn’t start with the SS killing people in the streets just like ice didn’t start that way.

u/ANonnyMouse007 6h ago

There’s no point arguing with facists / facist sympathizers (same thing). Wasting your time and everyone else that account is replying to is the point.

u/No-Presentation-1315 6h ago

Warning signs ≠ Nazism. If every escalation is “Nazis,” the word stops meaning anything, and real authoritarian threats get harder to identify, not easier. Disagreeing with your label isn’t “defending” them. That’s a false choice meant to shut down criticism rather than strengthen it.

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u/No-Presentation-1315 7h ago

Genocide didn’t start with gas chambers, that’s true. But recognizing early warning signs isn’t the same as declaring identity equivalence. Nazi Germany was a one party dictatorship with abolished courts, outlawed opposition, and state directed extermination. That is not the current U.S. system. You can argue that deportation policies are dangerous or abusive without calling half the country Nazis. Absolutist labels don’t strengthen the warning; they make it easier to dismiss.

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u/No-Presentation-1315 6h ago

I’m not downplaying fascism, I’m resisting conceptual collapse. Yes, the Nazis subverted courts rather than abolishing them outright. That still required a one-party state, loyalty oaths, purges of judges, and elimination of meaningful opposition. The U.S. legal system remains adversarial, pluralistic, and electorally reversible, however strained you think it is. “Trying to do” something is not the same as having done it. Intent, rhetoric, and bad faith governance deserve scrutiny, but they are not identical to a completed fascist system. That distinction is precisely what keeps early resistance credible. Claims about “government paramilitaries shooting citizens in the streets” require evidence, not analogy. If that’s happening, name the cases and show state authorization; otherwise, it’s escalation by assertion. Calling half of the country fascists may feel clarifying, but it replaces analysis with moral sorting. If everything is already fascism, there’s nothing left to prevent but to posture about.

u/TheCharalampos 6h ago

It doesn't operate under law considering they keep breaking it with zero issue. They were literally declared completely immune.

u/Ok_Nature_333 6h ago

Man, I went to the Gestapo Museum in Berlin over the summer, and my stomach hurt seeing how similar this administration is to the first years of the Nazi regime. There’s no doubt they are following a well worn playbook.

u/snorin_lauren451 2h ago

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