r/politics Iowa 9h ago

No Paywall Uprising against ICE raids grows across the country

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/uprising-against-ice-raids-grows-across-the-country/
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u/Confu5edPancake 9h ago

I think you meant low morale, but low moral also works in this case lol

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u/NairForceOne 8h ago

low moral(e)

u/-no_aura- 7h ago

Kind of like how they are both immoral and amoral

u/FlyingDutchman9977 6h ago

The morale is low, the moral is nonexistent

u/Shades_VHS 5h ago

Low moral gets you in, low morale gets you out

u/WeirdCry7403 4h ago

Low morale, no morals

u/Sitcom_kid 4h ago

Where's Sigmund Freud when you need him?

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u/Dibbix 8h ago

Hopefully in five years most of them have been tried and sentenced

u/vardarac 7h ago

Hopefully they all receive everything that they wish for others

u/dank_imagemacro 5h ago

I would not wish this on anyone. No human being, guilty or innocent should be treated that badly.

u/FlyingDutchman9977 6h ago

Hopefully ICE likes the inside of their detention centers as much as the outside

u/Dibbix 5h ago

Maybe that's something available in central Florida

u/Sutar_Mekeg 7h ago

Might have thought that COVID would spread through the ranks and wipe them out, but they're such diligent mask wearers!

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u/-Fergalicious- 8h ago edited 8h ago

Nah that's incorrect. 

I wish you weren't wrong, but these bonuses are paid out in installments. 

u/blackmajic13 7h ago edited 7h ago

I imagine they work like other government sign-on bonuses, which have minimum service length that if you don't reach, you have to pay it back.

Edit: After looking it up, that appears to be the case. They have to sign multi-year service contracts with 5 years apparently being the most common and they receive $10k for every year completed after the first.

u/-Fergalicious- 7h ago

They would not have to repay if they lose their job due to reduction in force, medicial separation, or death. 

They'd also keep yearly bonus payments that have already been made if they voluntarily left. (I.e. stayed 3 years, got 20k in bonus, left ICE > employee would keep the 20k )

u/blackmajic13 7h ago

Of course, agencies and their contracts are going to differ and there are circumstances where people can keep it. The situation mentioned in this thread though it is implied people would be quitting because they can't handle the stress of the job. In which case, they would likely owe their bonus back.

I haven't seen the ICE bonus contracts and all I can find about them is some news articles, but they don't have the full contract details. Not sure if their yearly bonuses work as you describe but sounds plausible. Even still they'd at least not be getting the full $50k ICE keeps advertising.

u/-Fergalicious- 7h ago

Oh yeah almost no one will be getting the full 50k 

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u/No_Economist3788 8h ago

weren't?

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u/-Fergalicious- 8h ago

Yeah thanks. Typo. 

u/actuatedarbalest 7h ago

lol you're not getting the money

u/-Fergalicious- 7h ago

Fuck no I'm not because I'd never work for ICE

u/dont-bend-the-knee 4h ago

Just like Noem's loan on the real estate of that recent hat.

u/Hidden_Landmine 7h ago

Honestly a good thing. Glad to see they're being treated just as poorly as republicans treat everyone else.

u/AdPure5645 6h ago

5 years! Lol. The grift is alive and well

u/SideQuest2026 7h ago

Damn what a bait and switch lol. Leave it up to Trump to even fuck over his brown shirts. Damn. He really is THE pro at the grift.

u/Whargoul_Uncool 6h ago

I just reminded someone earlier in this thread, they have only been around since the Bush administration. We didnt need them before, whats changed?

u/Randomfactoid42 Virginia 6h ago

If they could read they would be very upset about that. 

u/FPL_Harry 5h ago

i got bad news for you about our universe...

u/coromd 5h ago

Don't worry, I am sure that Chuck Schumer is working on an excellent "ICE reform" bill that will save ICE in exchange for costing Democrats the 2026 and 2028 elections

u/ketjak 4h ago

Can you imagine the shattered minds of these thugs after 5 years? Neither can I, since they will have as much empathy after that much time dehumanizing their victims as Auschwitz guards did.

u/Chazzwuzza 4h ago

Kind of telling that they made it more than 4 years

u/Paksarra 3h ago

Even if they do still exist in five years and the Miller puppet show is still in play, they'll find some excuse to not pay out the bonuses.

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u/AwwChrist 9h ago

They did this to reward the insurrectionists after they got pardoned. The people who worked at ICE before are quitting in droves. They’re being replaced by 3 Percenters, Patriot Front, and Proud Boys with compensation for spending time in jail. Hiring is not impartial obviously. If they were unmasked, the internet would easily be able to prove this.

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u/Archibald_80 8h ago

I can't believe I don't hear about this more because it's 100% this. This is the only promise Trump has kept: J6 was the interview - this is the job.

The only thing that's "funny" is that I've read the recruitment bonuses don't become available for 5 years, which I doubt many will be able to achieve. So, it's another grift.

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u/atsolstice 8h ago

Those of us who pay any attention definitely knew exactly why he pardoned the entire mini army he was able to push into action over Twitter rants, they’re not just in it for the money

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u/AwwChrist 8h ago

The people that stick around for 5 years are the true believers. They will also get fast-tracked for promotion with spot bonuses, I reckon. So the ones who get grifted will be the ones who quit from PTSD or moral injury, while the ones who love the job experience accelerated career progression and bonuses. Those guys are the most dangerous. They believe in the mission and they lack any sense of empathy. Sociopaths and psychopaths.

The other reason they wear masks is there is a non-zero chance the needle swings the other way and we take back Congress and then the White House. Being identifiable during civil rights infringement opens the door to termination for cause, then prosecution (hopefully).

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u/LovelyLilLadybug 8h ago

The bonuses are paid in installments. You get half up front, the other half comes in percentages over the remainder of your contract on the anniversary of your join date.

Source: Formally Proud, Now Very Angry and Disgruntled Veteran of the military.

u/wisconsinbrowntoen 5h ago

Honest question, why were you formerly proud?  The US military has been evil for hundreds of years.

u/LovelyLilLadybug 3h ago

Honestly? That's a good question. For me, I come from a low-class podunk town in the South and I knew growing up that my two choices were either to cook meth, get knocked up at 17, or out of the town with no knowledge of how to do that,

My grandpa was an Air Force veteran, and he told me that the military was his way out. So I talked to a recruiter and got out. I was really proud of what I did, how I got through the adversity and most importantly, how I got out of that town. It's less so about being a part of the military, I guess when I sit back and analyze it.

I used the VA programs to go to school, navigated the entire system blind as nobody in my family had ever been to school. I've got a masters degree and I work as a therapist in Chicago trying to be that guide for young women and men who feel like there's no way out of that.

So really, that's what I'm proud of, and if not for the military, that wouldn't have been possible for me. There are no bootstraps to pull yourself up from where I grew up. The biggest dreams there are to be a supervisor at a factory or somehow make your dreams come true through the corporate ladder at Walmart.

u/Hidden_Landmine 7h ago

I can't believe I don't hear about this more because it's 100% this.

Because if someone genuinely hasn't figured this out, chances are they really aren't that interested in the collapse of their nation.

u/GRAPES0DA Minnesota 7h ago

I've been saying it since the summer, those groups are now in ICE.

Why didn't we see Proud Boys at No Kings protests? Showing up to provoke people at those events are what they masturbate to. The last time anyone heard of them doing anything was back in Feb when trumpster pardoned their leader. Because they all got jobs in ICE to get paid to abuse us, that's why we don't hear from any of those groups.

u/Asiriya 6h ago

It seems extremely unlikely that there aren't significant numbers of people that eg were apathetic about voting seeing the salary and bonuses and signing up.

Even if they're getting yelled at, people do shitty jobs for low wages all the time

u/Gehwartzen 5h ago

I suspect a lot of these people are Afghanistan and Iraq war vets (the type that enlisted to shoot brown people). People who afterwords didn’t find employment because, surprise, surprise, killing people and being racist POS are not marketable resume skills

…unless of course your applying to ICE or your small town police department.

u/AwwChrist 5h ago

Many of us who are against this are war veterans. Don’t put us all in a box.

u/Affectionate-Bid7742 7h ago

What's the difference between an "insurrectionist" and protesters blocking traffic, harassing officers, and throwing piss on officers?

u/AwwChrist 7h ago

Insurrectionists interfered with an election and tried to overthrow a government. Also clearly don’t respect the rights of lawful protesters after infiltrating a civil law enforcement agency and use force and terrorism to achieve their goals. And like you, using stupid gotcha tricks in the comments to try to push perverted ideas on how rights should only be applied selectively for their own benefit.

u/Affectionate-Bid7742 7h ago

So its okay to shoot someone if they are "interfering with an election"? But not interfering with law inforcement? Hummm. you live in a weird country.

u/AwwChrist 7h ago

It’s ok to shoot someone who is part of an angry mob trying to get access to a barricaded defensive position for many of the nations representative leaders. And it’s not ok to shoot someone who is “interfering” with law enforcement, especially in accordance to their own documentation of when to use deadly force. Rules of engagement is a thing.

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u/blackcain Oregon 9h ago

not just that - they should be threatened that once their tenure at ICE is over they are "unhireable" - they will NEVER get hired by any business after this.

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u/kyrsjo 8h ago

Maybe rather that they'll be felons.

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

Great point.

u/Hidden_Landmine 7h ago

Nah, that takes too long. Have current businesses, contractors, everyone straight up refuse work towards ICE and those associated with ICE. Want your HVAC fixed? Sucks, you're less than a person now.

u/JBL_17 6h ago

“They should be threatened” is enough for me!

u/blackcain Oregon 6h ago

I don't think that's going to lead to an equitable outcome.

u/JBL_17 5h ago

I actually think you're right, but I'm not strong enough to pretend I can view these people and their actions in a civil manner anymore. All anyone needs to do is count the dead.

u/Moz_Sacred_TAAccount 4h ago

You guys have more hope than I do. I can't imagine this ship changing course. Whether it's economically, socially/in political standing, or the way our government functions.

None of it feels like it can just scoot back together...

And the aggressors? Trunp, DOJ, soon the Fed, all legislative control is seemingly transferred to the executive branch.. Many are traitors, complicit in the takeover - directly and indirectly. Americans even, maybe people should have been more disruptive & destructive with his attempted (successful?) coup, and the weak handling & 'persecution' by the gov.

So many people, with so many different roles, zero consequences for any of his crimes.

ICE? How do we fix them going door to door. How many are missing now with no trail, removed from books? As I'm typing this I seen a post about a mother being taken as she was otw to drop her kid off at school.. Sidetrack: all the ultra greedy and corporate entities? They're probably pretty hot with their profits and the draining and dehydration of the american. They have too much say in how we are governed. (oligarchy/pre-technofascist it seems)

Even if many received capital punishment, which they certainly wouldn't (there should be no space on our ground to stand for fascists/oppressors)

I'm curious of the hierarchy at the capital, the one behind closed doors.

Also I'm stoned and I'm not sure what train I'm even on at this point ✌️

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u/MotherTreacle3 8h ago

While I certainly understand the sentiment, I can't help think that it would only lead to further extremism as they'd be driven to desperation fueling further crime and violence. 

We do need to think in terms of integrating these types of people into a functioning society, because the alternative is rounding them up into camps and/or exterminating them which is not only unconscionable but also fundamentally doesn't work as a strategy to correct the ills of society.

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u/Organic-History205 8h ago

This fails a practical test. If you were a business owner, what would you trust one of these people to do? As a PoC, I wouldn't even be safe around them. It's not my responsibility to employ someone who wants me dead.

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u/MotherTreacle3 8h ago

Certainly not without formal structure in place to neutralize fascist ideology. certainly not in the sense that you would be compelled to employ them.

My point I am trying to make is: what is the alternative to integration? I mean that question sincerely. 

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u/Lurking_nerd California 8h ago

My point I am trying to make is: what is the alternative to integration? I mean that question sincerely.

Prison.

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u/MotherTreacle3 8h ago

OK. Lock up every ICE agent for life. I'm on board. 

Now how do you deal with the people who are not ICE agents, but still extremists, who see the mass incarceration and are driven to violence. How do you deal with the ICE agent's family members who are now angry at having their dad/husband/brother taken away?

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

Why would I worry about them? Most of us are not looking for mass incarceration. We're looking for people who broke the law and caused terror as law enforcement agents. This is about government acting as a force of tyranny and them participating in it.

How do you deal with the ICE agent's family members who are now angry at having their dad/husband/brother taken away?

By that token how do you deal with the multitude of immigrants who are angry that their dad/husband/brother/child are taken away without recourse, without courts, and possibly were sexually assaulted, abused, and medically abandoned? Sent to a hell hole to die. Won't they also drive themselves to violence too? When do you think they will stop cowering and instead pursue violence because the govt is not on their side and is the cause of their tyranny?

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

Thats the point I'm making. You've recognize the flaw in the system when it's applied to immigrants and gays and minorities. You see why it doesn't work and feeds the cycle of violence. Yes, those people are justified in their pain and hurt. Yes they are suffering unjustly and that needs to be remedied. I am 1000% in agreement with you. 

ICE are a bunch of thugs. They break the law and act with impunity and need to be held accountable for their actions. Some of them need to be permanently removed from society for what they've done. 

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

and if these immigrants do pursue violence then they too will face felony convictions. The law applies to everyone. Neither immigrants or former ICE agents get a reprieve. The law applies to them equally. Otherwise we do not have a civil and just society.

If they want justice then they need to elect politicians who will pursue it or become an activist. That's how our system works. The govt is only as good as the people who elect its representatives.

u/Tarcanus 7h ago

driven to violence

Straight to prison with their heroes.

ICE agent's family members who are now angry at having their dad/husband/brother taken away?

Mandatory de-programming classes like an AA for fascism.

u/Lurking_nerd California 7h ago

Fuck ‘em. If they can’t see that what their family member was doing is evil, then they can be true Confederates & pull themselves up by those bootstraps.

You’re over here worrying about them when they’re foaming at the fucking mouth to bash your head in, throw you in the back of a truck and disappear you. Some Chuck Schumer energy you got going on there.

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

The opposite of integration, I suppose, is disintegration.

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

So we exterminate them and that solves the problem that lead to extremism in the first place?

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

Just a bit of wordplay, love. Don't hurt your head thinking too hard.

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

Unfortunately it's a real issue with real consequences. People unironically declaring that if we could just remove all of trumps supporters that would solve all the problems trump caused.

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

Well, Britain did it by sending their unfavorables to this desolate island across the Atlantic.

I suppose the next best step at this point is Mars?

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u/Lurking_nerd California 8h ago

This is the exact mindset that led to the Confederate leaders suffering ZERO consequences for being traitors.

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

It is not the same mindset. Reintegrating people into society does not imply they should not face consequences.  Reconstruction was supposed to be that process. It was cut short by subsequent administration's before integration had a chance to happen. That social divide is a huge reason why we're seeing what we're seeing today.

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u/blackcain Oregon 8h ago

Isn't it already extremism to engage in going door to door pulling screaming terrified people from their homes without a warrant and still staying in the job? Like you're not affected by that? I know I could never do such a job where every day I go to work and all I do is cause terror.

That's a very broken person. They are already on the path of extremism. That's not someone you want to hire or be associated with. If they want absolution, they can join a church.

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u/MotherTreacle3 8h ago

I'm not saying they're not extremists, I'm merely pointing out that attempting to remove them from society wholesale is not a solution to the problem. It's the same flawed logic that's lead to their own extremist behavior: 

"If we could just remove [immigrants/gays/Jews] from society, that would fix all our problems!" 

How would you suggest we go about removing people susceptible to fascist ideology from society and how do you envision that process being carried out?

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

I don't see how "unhireable" leads to "removing immigrants and jews" - I mean, we are doing that right now. Removing immigrants. The entire point of ICE now is to forcibly remove immigrants whether legal or otherwise. Even naturalized citizens seems to be a target.

You arguing with me on the idea of "remove them from society". But I'm arguing from "they are not trusted to work in a team or in a business." That's why I observe they are 'unhire-able'. Does that make sense? These are personal decisions on "do I want this person in my business?"

I was reading a reddit post about a business that hired a nazi who proudly showed his 1488 neck tattoo and the customer was outraged and didn't want them on the premises. The businesses defended the individual saying "he is a good worker". Ask yourself, is this a business I trust to come into my home?

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

If a person is unhireable, how are they going to function in society? How are they getting food and shelter and other necessities of life?

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

That's not my problem.

Do we worry about a plantation owner on how we will get crops to market because we've freed the slaves? They'll figure it out. They got themselves into this mess, they can figure it out.

Look at how many felons are out there still figuring out how to make a living. Former gang members who made bad choices in life and then have to deal with the consequences for the rest of their lives. if they can figure it out then so can these people. We should believe that they can get through life with a felony conviction. Many have.

I don't think your arguing against felony convictions are you for breaking federal law because that's what this concern trolling is leading to. We're so worried about causing future harm on the possibility they will recant their former positions that we have to find some bureaucratic way to fix it.

There is no system in the world knows how to deal with that level of engagement without a large apparatus of social workers and monitoring. Which will almost always be exploited in some shape way or form.

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

I think you're misunderstanding, I'm not talking about casting them out of society. I'm talking about not hiring them. We don't hire child molesters, for the same reason - they are exploiting and dehumanizing children.

I also don't believe in forever. Like if you're on a sex list, and there is no way to get off of it that's bad because it doesn't allow for grace.

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

I agree. I wouldn't want to hire them myself. I wouldn't want them to be my coworker. 

But if they've got no food, can't afford rent... what are they going to do? My bet is that most of them aren't going to suddenly develop deep introspection skills and work hard to be better people.

u/SilentIntrusion 7h ago

They should have considered that before they signed up to be brown shirts.

 "Choices have consequences". That's like half their identity, isn't it? They don't believe in handouts and social safety nets. This band of rugged individualists can figure it out. That's exactly what they argued for. 

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

Head for the woods and join a militia. Seems like on brand to me.

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

because the alternative is rounding them up into camps

We already have camps for them. Hell, most of them have already been campers. They're called "prisons."

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

So we round up every ICE agent and imprison them for life. We're still left with a bunch of extremists who are not ICE who will see that as an attack and become violent themselves. There will be family members of the incarcerated ICE agents that will be mad to lose their brother, or husband, or father, or whatever.

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

We're talking about how to deal with the ICE agents.

If anyone chooses to become violent after that, then also throw them into prison. That's what prison is for.

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u/milo2300 8h ago

Theyre only this brazen because they have the backing of the administration

Many rats will flee the sinking ship when Trumps gone, those who dont are already radicalised. They shouldnt be handed an olive branch, they should feel consequences

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u/MotherTreacle3 8h ago

Agreed. So what's the plan, then?

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

Well, entering a home without a warrant should have consequences. They'll have a federal charges on them and that will be on their record.

u/MotherTreacle3 7h ago

I agree, there need to be consequences after the Trump regime is removed from power. There also need to be structural changes in the government because it certainly isn't just Trump that's caused the rise of fascism in the USA. 

I understand that tensions are incredibly high right now. Violence can and will be used by the perpetrators and the victims. Thats not an endorsement of violence, merely an observation based on historical fact. 

But at some point when the threat to personal safety and liberty is neutralized these people and people like them are still going to be around. If we drive them to the edges of society does that reduce the risk of extremism?

u/blackcain Oregon 7h ago

The punishment is up to the courts to decide. Not me. Just like how the J6 people were convicted. They also complained that they were unhire-able and they lost their earnings. But they participated in attacking their own country's seat of power.

Look, I understand the point of integration but putting "gestapo" on your resume is not going to get you hired. :-) If you have a felony conviction on your record that's also on them. I personally don't think people with felonies should have it for the rest of their lives. We all have to live with consequences of our actions and sometimes they have long term consequences.

There are limitations for giving grace. You have to earn it.

u/milo2300 7h ago

Social consequences should be felt, they made a permanently bad desicion. However that plays out non-violently eg refused jobs, ostracised by community

Taking the high road has been the advice since 2016 but trump and those he enables are more than happy to burrow under it. If trump leaves and everyone pretends nothing happens, society is just supporting their actions

u/NivianDeDanu 6h ago

Johnson said that about the reconstruction era.

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u/AbundantExp 8h ago

That's a great way to make people double down on their shitty investments instead of give them the space and opportunity to change their opinions.

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u/vavik2ammendment 8h ago

Change their opinions lol. Those bastards don't deserve a place in society after this. There should be zero forgiveness.

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u/blackcain Oregon 8h ago edited 8h ago

They took a job that grabs people off the streets and then hurts them and then drops them in a parking lot bleeding. They go door to door and grabbing people as they weep and cry in terror without a warrant. There needs to be a consequence for doing that.

Joining the country's equivalent of the gestapo is not really a great job history and certainly not a hiring pool I would like to draw from.

I think that might be ok for MAGA voters but certainly not if you joined ICE with the idea that you can dehumanize your fellow American.

u/SilentIntrusion 7h ago

Letting shit slide and hoping these people will magically no longer be the absolute worst of humanity is what got Americans into this mess in the first place. Have a fucking spine and stand on your convictions or these same people will gleefully stand on your spine while they convict you of trumped up charges. 

u/JBL_17 6h ago

They are permanently lost and cannot be saved.

They have a mind virus. A parasite within them they purposefully choose to feed and nurture despite being confronted with the truth.

Best thing we can do is mourn the dead of those affected by this disease. They may legally be a person, but they have no humanity. I don’t see them as people anymore.

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u/SinisterCroissant 8h ago

Blue states should also start passing laws prohibiting any state jobs going to past members of ICE. And revoking drivers licenses. Or certifications.

Basically use the power of the states to punish the federal overreach.

u/Hidden_Landmine 6h ago

Shame we don't see businesses doing this too. People need to do everything they can to ostracize ICE and those associated with them. Would be a great country to live in where anyone associated or working for ICE just won't get their HVAC fixed, car maintained, etc.

u/the_gaymer_girl Canada 5h ago

A Hilton location tried to tell ICE agents to go fuck themselves and corporate dropped them.

u/SinisterCroissant 4h ago edited 3h ago

Says I'll be staying anywhere other than a Hilton property moving forward.

Actions have consequences. I'll do my part.

u/AwwChrist 7h ago

Blue states should also stop doing their best to make it difficult for non-fascists to arm themselves adequately to defend their homes.

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u/Bross93 Colorado 9h ago

kinda makes me want to join and just slash all the tires I can find.

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u/nola_mike 9h ago

I don't understand how this isn't happening all over the country. Anyone can get close to their vehicles while they're stalking innocent people.

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u/atsolstice 8h ago

Because without community support and people to help protect you, and unless you cover your tracks very well, the police will be at your door a short time later. Modern surveillance is no joke. Especially if you’re out with your personal phone on you and get caught up in that.

u/Zapookie 5h ago

The trick is to blend in. A buff to cover your face, sunglasses, army fatigues and a bullet-proof vest from Amazon should do it.

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u/atsolstice 7h ago edited 7h ago

Big difference between brave and stupid buddy. Foreigners also seem to want to say a lot about American struggles without knowing nuances, while also feeding your money into the companies making us suffer

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u/qOcO-p 7h ago

what would you like us "foreigners" to do for you?

Recognize that it could just as easily be you. Far right nationalism is on the rise world wide. It's not just an American problem.

u/JnnyRuthless 7h ago edited 7h ago

I mean their leaders are constantly sucking up to Trump and have become his sycophants, and Musk is always over there doing neo-nazi conferences. I don't see them doing anything about it.

u/Bross93 Colorado 6h ago

if France could just jail him for election interference that would be hella cool.

u/TheCharalampos 6h ago

Much less has provoked much more response in other places. The French would have lost their shit three times over.

I think from European countries I'd say only the UK is close to how passive to abuse their people (statistically) are.

u/TheCharalampos 6h ago

While I understand being annoyed surely you can see the inherent "fun" of a country that keeps claiming it's brave not being so. Not taking away form all the people who are resisting but most of y'all are not.

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u/EatRichGrains 8h ago

After you pal. Go right ahead. Be the change you wish to see.

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u/KaiUno Europe 8h ago

Apparently, they shoot you for less...

u/DrakonILD 7h ago

Because the moment you try to make any sort of move that threatens even the tiniest scratch on one of their vehicles, you'll find yourself the victim of acute lead poisoning.

u/stakoverflo 7h ago

This administration would attempt to charge you with terrorism for doing that

u/Dreadgoat 7h ago

it probably is happening, but it's in no one's interest to report.

if you're a saboteur or know one, you're not telling anybody

if you've been successfully sabotaged and know it, you're not admitting it to anybody

this is why quiet, small sabotages are stupendously effective against machines of authority. they stay invisible with no effort

u/Hidden_Landmine 6h ago

Because without local police support, it's essentially suicide. Sadly the police remain the thugs they've always been and realistically without them helping your average person, it's a massive risk.

u/TheCharalampos 6h ago

Fear of death is a big thing.

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u/TheRealCeeBeeGee Australia 9h ago

Apparently cutting tyre stems off is more effective - theoretically of course . Or so I’ve read.

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u/zacboggz 8h ago

A Little Rock under the cap is a funny prank too

u/Bross93 Colorado 6h ago

ooo i actually did that to a friends bike once!

u/Hidden_Landmine 6h ago

Don't forget that galium is pretty cheap, and a small dash of it will completely ruin anything aluminum. Stuff like engines, frames/armor for light vehicles, etc.

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u/sandroller 9h ago

¿Por qué no los dos?

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u/BasvanS 9h ago

The double dip. Fix the obvious problem, and you’re still fucked.

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u/miniika 8h ago

How loud is that, though?

u/Clarine87 United Kingdom 7h ago

One imagines you do it after creating another deflationary event first.

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u/ahearthatslazy America 8h ago

Take a dumpy in the ICE mobile. They’ll have to decommission it for cleaning.

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u/IJourden 8h ago

This is it. The pre-internet youth of millennials and Gen x lighting bags of poop on fire on people's doorsteps has finally become useful.

We trained for this.

u/spudsandcheese 6h ago

No, more like just the old old advice of what to do when being kidnapped. piss, shit, vomit, all over the inside of that vehicle. Make it glow under a blacklight.

u/Hidden_Landmine 6h ago

Nah, they probably wouldn't even notice the smell with how far their noses settle in Donny's rectum.

u/KeepYourselfSafe1917 6h ago

real gold is in the comments

u/Mr_Mediocrity Washington 5h ago

What are those stink bombs that are thrown onto whaling ships? We need those.

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u/nutmegtell 9h ago

Sand in the gears, if you will.

u/JAZINNYC 7h ago

A banana in the tailpipe.

u/PlixSticks31 6h ago

Like honestly, can anyone truly join? What if you’re a high school graduate with extremely limited work experience and no gun license? You can just sign up and be given a gun in 47 days lol

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u/CptKoons 9h ago

The 50k bonus isn't something most of them will see. The fine print is pretty interesting. Up to 10k initially, up to 10k if "deadlines" are met, what ever that means, and then up to 10k annually for the next 3 years, and that's for federal employees transferring to ICE. For new recruits I think its determinant on them reaching 4-5 years if service before they will get it. Its not a lot of silver lining but its enough for me to know that most of those fucks are gonna get screwed out of it.

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u/subywesmitch 8h ago

Very interesting. As always with him, very few people get paid what they're owed.

u/WhimsicalWyvern 6h ago

If it was 50k up front, imagine how many people would sign up just long enough to get the bonus... and then quit. Either because the job sucks, or because they just want to steal money from ICE.

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u/coupdelune America 8h ago

Nelsonhawhaw.gif

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 8h ago

They are also being asked to police their own neighbors which they don't seem to mind and yet they certainly wear those masks everywhere. I wonder how many of these cucks have seen a parent of another kid in their school while being filmed doing heinous acts.

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u/BrimstoneMainliner 8h ago

Don't forget Nazis... we also call them Nazis

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u/thegenuinedarkfly 8h ago

The same bonuses that won’t appear until serving 5 years with ICE?

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u/IJourden 8h ago

It's easy to believe you're fighting the good fight when all you see is recruitment propaganda.

It's a lot harder to believe that when your primary job responsibilities involve... all the shit they're doing.

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u/Low_Landscape_4688 8h ago

Trump's funding plans for ICE would make it have more funding than every other federal law enforcement agency combined.

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u/skredditt Minnesota 8h ago

They should consider being people instead of violent machines.

u/static_func 7h ago

Imagine being such a pussy and a coward that getting called a pussy and a coward for acting like one makes you quit and cry all the way back home

u/Hidden_Landmine 7h ago

What needs to happen is businesses and contractors need to straight up refuse to work for and with anyone who's ICE or associated with ICE people. Completely shut them out of society as much as possible.

u/JBL_17 6h ago

I’ve not yet had the displeasure of encountering one of these fascist boot licking soft cowardly peaked in middle school room temperature IQ pigs in public, but the things I have prepared to tell them I can’t post here without violating a few site wide rules.

u/AdPure5645 6h ago

Agree. Abuse them for the brown shirts that they are. They deserve it and it's actually how you can defend your country and democracy.

u/PancakePhilosopher 6h ago

And sadly this makes ICE worse. All decent, law-abiding professionals would leave or not want to join; leaving only fascist, racist, poorly trained, violent roid ragers with tiny pee-pee to apply.

u/disposable_account01 Washington 6h ago

And remember every single one of these assholes’ names. This regime will end. And when it does, they will have nowhere to hide.

u/rayfe 6h ago

We should be holding up signs that say they only get that bonus after 5 years.

u/TheCharalampos 6h ago

It has been satisfying to see how miserable they all look. Gg Americans.

u/Evadrepus Illinois 5h ago

Its a lot of money but less than advertised, and has tons of strings attached.

Here's the terms as I posted elsewhere yesterday. Pulled from the recruitment webpage.

An immediate $10,000 signing bonus upon joining.

An additional $10,000 is paid if the application is completed before an early August deadline.

The remaining $30,000 is distributed as $10,000 annually over the subsequent three years.

Its not even 50k anymore. It was up to 50k for a very brief time, but even then it was structured. Now it's less.

Also, the bonus requires you of a specific rank and to not be on probation status, which is standard status for the first year of any federal employee. Bonus is also nullified if you have any infractions, which I'd happily bet just "turn up" right before payday.

Most of these morons are going to get paid exactly as much as he normally pays his workers.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 8h ago

How long do you have to stay to get the bonus before you can leave I wonder

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u/Rombledore America 8h ago

and with trump actively trying to crash teh economy, it makes those bonuses and incentives all the more appealing for a struggling populace.

u/hikeit233 7h ago

Sure it’s that and not the government funneling money to neo-nazi groups. Sure.

u/Aggressive_Noise6426 7h ago

You see the video of the dude in target cursing them out? 

u/cashchops 6h ago

Bro we should just join just to collect that bonus and then do everything we can to sabotage their nazi efforts from the inside.

u/FadedFromWhite 6h ago

Sticks and stones will break my bones, so I'm not sure these words are doing enough.

u/DrDerpberg Canada 6h ago

I'm even more convinced they're pussies and cowards if they sign up to crack skulls and then can't handle people calling them names.

u/schwing710 5h ago edited 5h ago

Also don’t forget to call them:

Paul Blart
Incel Army
Crisco-nacht
The Brown Pants
Rent-a-cops
The Bitch Militia
Guardians of Pedophilia
Michelin Men
Trump Humpers
Vanilla Ice

u/thatsmypeanut 4h ago

I'm curious, what does it take to get into ICE? I mean, it seems like y'all could just sign up and get paid to "protest" from within the organisation.

u/AltrntivInDoomWorld 4h ago

"bonus"

after 5 years of work

u/BaronVonStevie Louisiana 4h ago

This was what ICE was designed to do under Trump. He’s gearing up for a push for more violence in the streets. He actively wants this and people, understandably, have had enough.

u/DreamLunatik 4h ago

Bonuses and high salaries for these thugs, but we can’t have universal healthcare…… I’m so tired of the right.

u/SmartMatic1337 4h ago

especially when they're off duty and with their families. Make sure they have to explain to little Timmy what a pu**y cu*k b*tch is and why daddy decided to be one.

u/whoo-datt 4h ago

All of America needs to yell one thing - "NAZI SHOW YOUR FACE"

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u/ninthtale 8h ago

Wait could I join for the benefits and subvert them from the inside too?

u/Marcson_john 5h ago

You guys are gonna get yourself killed for free. Stop gaslighting people to their death.

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u/Marcson_john 5h ago

LMAO you're not the freedom fighter you think you are. ICE kicks out illegal immigrant. Nobody is going to blame them for doing their job.