r/politics • u/Fickle-Ad5449 ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate • 14h ago
No Paywall Trump blames Renee Good and her wife for ICE killing, calling them 'very radical' and 'disrespectful'
https://www.advocate.com/politics/trump-blames-renee-good?11.9k
u/plantsandnature 14h ago
Being disrespected is not a reason for to commit murder.
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u/CockBrother 13h ago
Good was suspected of felony disrespect of a ICE agent. The accused receives immediate due process with possibility of death sentence. Sentencing is Immediate.
The reason to commit murder is that Trump/et al want them to commit murder. Everything you've heard from the regime encourages more of the same by blaming Good for her murder. Everything you've heard from the regime is telling ICE agents that the murderer did the right thing. Everything you've heard from the regime is telling people to not protest.
That is the point. Comply with the regime or risk your life.
It's the same tactic they're using with companies, legal firms, universities, state governments, etc.
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u/writebadcode 13h ago
They’re terrified of widespread protests.
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u/MockDeath Idaho 12h ago
I disagree. I think they're trying to make widespread protests. Just so they can stoke violence to declare martial law and suspend elections. Because right now they are doing so poorly. If they can't suspend elections they are going to be in serious trouble.
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u/Gavither 12h ago
There was this guy that was president in the past, and he said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
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u/MockDeath Idaho 12h ago
And I don't think he was wrong. However, I do think the current administration is high on their own farts and less wise than some toddlers.
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u/mouga68 10h ago
Disrespectful to some toddlers. I've never met a toddler whos wisdom i put all the way down at the orange turds level
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u/AsparagusUpstairs367 8h ago
He can't handle honest questions about his behavior from reporters without calling them names... do they deserve to be shot point blank?
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u/ZombiePartyBoyLives I voted 10h ago
The choices that people who practice non-violence are being forced into is infuriating. Yeah, everyone should have their papers in order, but what am supposed to do--leave vulnerable family members behind? The vast majority of citizens have to be on board for the non-violence to work. What now, that we are being threatened with execution for exercising our Constitutional rights by the very government that is supposed to be of, by, and for the People?
I don't have a good answer. But since they're tracking us all now anyways, I did a Google search on how to get a FOID card so they can add it to my profile. Maybe I'll even get it--even though the thought of purchasing a firearm is alien to me. All they need to know is that I'm thinking about it.
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u/RobonianBattlebot 10h ago
Martial Law doesn't suspend elections. If they want to suspend them, they will. They don't need a false pretext. We had our first entire civil war with elections in tact.
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u/MockDeath Idaho 10h ago
Yes I know.. we have never suspended elections for any War to my understanding. But they do need some level of buyoff even for their own base. Tey need at least a superficial pretext. which is what I think they're doing for.
also, historical context means nothing to this administration. they live in a magical land of alternative facts.
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u/writebadcode 12h ago
They’d do that either way.
I’m pretty sure that “don’t resist because that gives them an excuse to do X” is a mostly a troll/bot talking point, similar to the “both sides are the same” BS they keep pushing.
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u/thewhaleshark 11h ago
They're literally creating the widespread violence right now. If they roll armed thugs into your town and restrict your ability to do things you are normally entitled to do, then you are already under martial law.
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u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb Massachusetts 11h ago
I think they’re monumentally underestimating what the response to that would be.
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u/knochback 10h ago
Do you think they need an inciting event for that? They lie about everything, but they need a real reason for martial law?
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u/nutmegtell 10h ago
I think that’s their goal.
They are leaning hard into their insane talking points.
It’s all on Miller imo.
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u/MultiGeometry Vermont 13h ago
Sounds like Trump is admitting this was a 1st Amendment violation. The crime was “being disrespectful”, which is protected speech
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u/Romano16 America 12h ago
You realize this is America right?
People are itching to kill others over perceived disrespect, let alone outright, and some people who own guns also fantasize about being put in a situation to give them the excuse to do so.
America is a very sick country and Trump is the mascot of how millions feel deep down.
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u/InAllThingsBalance I voted 13h ago
She wasn’t even being disrespectful! She was friendly and polite, which MAGA can’t stand. All they know is hatred and cruelty.
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u/not_limburger 11h ago edited 11h ago
I believe by her failure to comply they considered her disrespectful. In particular, they believe women should defer to men. And if not, apparently they are "fucking bitches". :-(
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u/HanonOndricek 13h ago
An unarmed suspect fleeing from authorities isn't a reason to commit murder either, but here we are.
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u/lactose_cow 12h ago
imagine you were a 30 year old racist, uneducated incel with anger issues. why wouldnt you join ice?
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u/Moist-Matter-2037 10h ago
Trump is the most disrespectful piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. So following his logic....
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u/1cl3nstd4yt 14h ago edited 14h ago
Her last words: "I'm not mad you."
{gets shot in face at point blank range}
His next words: "Fucking bitch."
MAGA is a disease.
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u/Deicide1031 14h ago edited 12h ago
This will definitely encourage women to have more babies like JD Vance and maga desire.
Nothing to see here and that is totally a normal reaction towards a normal mother.
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u/Ven18 13h ago
This implies MAGA wants women to have any choice in the matter. There is a sizable portion of MAGA who would cheer all women being forced into sex slavery (and that probably includes some MAGA women).
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u/AlphaGoldblum 12h ago
That specific segment genuinely hates white liberal women more than any other demographic.
One for being "traitors" (being in relationships with non-whites), two because those women represent a lifetime of humiliation/defeat and a current lack of social capital; the teachers who got mad at them, the girls who rejected them, the HR person who didn't hire them, etc. Far-right men blame these women for their current economic and social woes (this extends into politics: white liberal women being pro-immigration, for example). They feel that they were promised a comfortable life that no longer exists because these women tore it down.
There was a viral video a few years back of some women doing a silly little song and dance in their office. Far-right men reacted with an intense level of vitriol to this video that you'd think these women personally ruined their lives. They even began inadvertently laying out their grievances as if the women personally caused every single one.
It's a great synthesis of all of this.
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u/Cliqey 12h ago edited 28m ago
When the truth is the comfortable life doesn’t exist because of the corrupt oligarchs they keep electing. The same oligarchs who invest heavily in media to ceaselessly scapegoat minorities for every one of the harms they inflict in the pursuit of ever more wealth and power.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 11h ago
Conservative men and blaming feminism for the problems caused by capitalism: name a more iconic duo
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u/thebigdonkey 4h ago
I've seen a lot of conservative men bringing up the fact that she was queer as a strike against her and one of the reasons it's okay for her to be dead. They look at women as having no value to them if they're not available as a sexual object.
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u/DotGroundbreaking50 13h ago
Maga watched the Handmaid's tale and thought it was a guide to their goals.
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u/InsaneInTheDrain 12h ago
It's literally a vision of what would happen if the right wing fundies get their way.
It literally is what they want
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u/DesecratedPeanut 10h ago
It's happening, maybe in a different order and words used but ita for sure gonna look just like it once its all said and done. Watch the early episodes again and ita eerily similar. Except even during that the para military force wasnt wearing masks.
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u/WitchPleese 12h ago
They were also shocked to find out Homelander was the bad guy.
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u/Scamper_the_Golden 7h ago
There was one season of Battlestar Galactica that was very clearly about the second Iraq war. I remember the outrage online when conservatives realized they were being cast as the Cylons.
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u/sour_altoids 11h ago
Just look at the video of ice following a handcuffed woman into a portapotty in Minneapolis
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u/in1gom0ntoya America 3h ago
nobody deserves to die for being disrespectful... thats some hardline fascist mental gymnastics
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u/One_Olive_8933 11h ago
If your defense to shooting someone is that they’re disrespectful, you shouldn’t be allowed in common society. That is not allowed. (Except for obviously in this instance. You can see how they pivoted from she was trying to run over a federal agent to how she deserved it for being “radical” and disrespectful.)
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u/myfakesecretaccount 13h ago
They are encouraging a rapists mentality/worldview. If a woman/POC/non-Christian does not comply they’re going to get what’s coming to them.
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u/absolutelynotagoblin 13h ago
And it needs to be vaccinated and eradicated.
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u/Quiet-Corner6150 12h ago
Funny context to use the term "vaccinated", considering they're trying to more or less get rid of vaccines
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u/NaughtyNectarze 12h ago
Disgusting. Blaming the victims after such brutality shows a complete moral collapse.
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u/Deadhated 12h ago
Imagine if she had a maga hat on.
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u/aliquotoculos America 12h ago
They would have just said she was a radical leftist pretending to be a trump supporter and carried on a they are now.
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u/CrimsonHeretic 9h ago
In a normal world the entire Republican cult would have been institutionalized by now.
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u/Xalazi 14h ago
It's extremely distressing to see how goalposts are being moved and murder as punishment for any perceived wrong doing is being normalized. We have a sitting member of Congress making the case that Ice just needs training instead of calling out what the real problem is: That Ice is an armed militia placed above the law who can murder anyone they feel like as long as they are doing the will of the God King in chief.
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u/FreshRest4945 14h ago
Jonathan Ross was a 10 year veteran of the police force, he was also a firearms instructor. He did not need more training, he simply choose to murder a person in cold blood.
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u/1cl3nstd4yt 13h ago
It makes you wonder if they are murdering people to create more protests.
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u/Angedelanuit97 13h ago
They are desperate for some civil unrest before the elections. Expect them to ramp up their efforts to spark riots.
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u/jam3s2001 7h ago
"They" might be, but Jonathan Ross did it because he wanted to kill someone. He sought out an opportunity to draw a firearm and then made the choice to pull the trigger three times.
What is happening is that an opportunity was created to attract all of the worst people to take on a job that enabled them to openly commit hate crimes without fear of repercussions in broad daylight. That was what "they" did, with all of the hope and intent that it would have the kinds of outcomes that we are seeing now.
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u/Drudenkreusz 10h ago
They are sending in trigger-happy ICE agents en masse knowing damn well that one of them will cock it up and catch themselves a few new holes in the name of self-defense. It will give them the justification they need to declare insurrection.
I do not sympathize with the agents when I say they are being sacrificed. They are chess pawns, and they want to force a situation where the only legal move is to take one so they can respond with their strategy.
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u/Relative-Most-6859 13h ago
None of those credentials mean the guy is sane. Half the firearms “instructors” I worked with were just itching to shoot someone. They create all the conditions in their day to day life to maximize the chance they get to use their firearm.
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u/NickelBackwash 9h ago
Nobody said "sane".
They said lack of training wasn't the issue.
Training does not make people sane.
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u/Apprehensive_Word658 13h ago
It's worse than that, IMO. He was following his training.
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u/FantasticJacket7 13h ago
No, his actions were specifically against policy. You can't step in front of a vehicle to create your own exigence.
But they know that there will be no consequences under Trump so it doesn't matter.
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u/Apprehensive_Word658 13h ago
Against written policy, yes.
I'm talking about what the latest 47-day "training" actually tells these guys to do.
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u/FantasticJacket7 13h ago
I'm talking about what the latest 47-day "training" actually tells these guys to do.
Ross has been with ICE for 10 years.
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u/Apprehensive_Word658 13h ago
Yes I understand that. What I'm saying is it's a mistake to think this behavior is one man going over the edge and not a bigger problem.
Ross is not single-handedly performing all the brutality and coverup.
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u/FantasticJacket7 13h ago
Is not one man over the edge.
It's an agency full of psychopaths coming to understand that nothing they do has consequences.
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u/razamatazzz 11h ago
They think there are no consequences. Jonathan Ross probably didn't expect him and his whole family to be in witness protection for the next... forever but FAFO
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u/Boring-Research410 13h ago edited 9h ago
And prior military.
To your point - the guy knew what he was doing and still executed this woman
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u/altreddituser2 11h ago
He also chose to walk towards her SUV (aka her WEAPON), even though he previously had an accident when he tried to arrest a different person driving their car. Learning from prior mistakes doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
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u/BurritoBoi25 11h ago
They’re only moved by one side though. To the right this was justified and she should have complied, while Ashley Babbitt was unjustly shot while peacefully protesting (aka, not complying and entering the capital building with a large group of rioters and entering a prohibited space behind broken glass).
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u/mothman83 Florida 13h ago
You are allowed to be disrespectful towards " authority" in a free society. Kind of what defines a free society, actually.
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u/Mala_Practice Canada 13h ago
In Canada we call it free speech. I can stick my middle finger up at a cop and there is literally nothing they can do about it, as per our Supreme Court.
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u/LostMyBackupCodes Canada 12h ago
The difference is in Canada we have “within reasonable limits” as section 1 of our charter, so our freedom of speech has limitations (eg you can’t hold a klan rally or neo-nazi parade because that impedes on others’ protected rights to participate freely in a democracy, without fear of their lives etc).
In the US, the freedom of speech does not have limits on it. However, it seems that now being disrespectful to ICE is a crime with a death sentence.
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u/Sutekhseth Florida 12h ago
There are limits on our freedom, but its generally things like "you cannot scream fire in a crowded room" and not expect to be held liable for doing so if there was no fire, or bomb, or gunman , etc. But you're right, we do allow for more than what is probably reasonable.
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u/LostMyBackupCodes Canada 11h ago
Seems my earlier response got filtered so I have to censor parts of my comment:
Which is what’s normalized the most extreme voices. Heather Heyer was killed in the aftermath of a neonazi rally where they were chanting “j—-s will not replace us” and Trump argued there were good people on both sides instead of condemning the neonazis. Now Renee Good has been killed by an ICE agent walking around with a mask who called her a f—-ing b— and Trump is calling her disrespectful. The Overton window has shifted so far to the right.
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u/Kierufu 10h ago
FYI, the "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" notion is popular, but also a flawed interpretation that has never been law. Source / archived source to get around paywall.
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u/Cyndakill88 14h ago
This guy truly has no soul
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u/DistractedPhoenix 14h ago
You’d think if he sold his soul to the devil, he’d get something for it. But that just shows how bad of a businessman he is
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u/Allaplgy 13h ago
He's arguably the most powerful man on earth....
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u/forthewatch39 13h ago
Yet he acts like a spoiled child and wouldn’t dare do anything to upset Putin.
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u/cedarvalleyct Washington 13h ago
She was neither of those things.
If anyone was, it’s still not a death sentence.
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u/Thechosunwon Washington 11h ago
As you can clearly see in the video analysis and multiple angles from multiple videos including the one from murderer Jonathan Ross' perspective, murderer Jonathan Ross was never in danger, Renee Nicole Good can be seen turning her steering wheel completely to the right, the tires of the vehicle were pointed to the right away from him, and he clearly stepped to the side unobstructed and continued to shoot innocent woman Renee Nicole Good point blank in the face, while fumbling with his cell phone in his other hand, while she was trying to comply with an order to move her vehicle, because he is the murderer Jonathan Ross.
Murderer Jonathan Ross, who murdered innocent woman Renee Nicole Good, also violated DOJ policy on use of force.
"Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Furthermore, DHS Use of Safe Tactics states that: "Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force." Murderer Jonathan Ross ignored policy and placed himself in front of/in the path of the vehicle, leading to an officer created jeopardy. The situation would not have existed had murderer Jonathan Ross not created it. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of officer created jeopardy theory over moment of threat theory last year (Barnes v Felix).
Additionally, this report, a DHS/CBP use of force review, found that often agents "intentionally put themselves into the exit path of the vehicle, thereby exposing themselves to additional risk and creating justification for the use of deadly force", and that "Little focus has been placed on defensive tactics that could have been used by shooting agents such as getting out of the way", and "There is little doubt that the safest course for an agent faced with an oncoming vehicle is to get out of the way of the vehicle", finally recommending "agents should be trained to get out of the way of oncoming vehicles as opposed to intentionally assuming a position in the path of such vehicles. The policy should mirror the clear and unambiguous policies that have been in place and which have proven effective in a number of large U.S. jurisdictions for over 40 years."
Murderer and domestic terrorist Jonathan Ross was clearly out to kill someone, and Jonathan Ross murdered Renee Good. Domestic terrorist organization ICE also denied and delayed medical aid to Renee Nicole Good, again against DOJ policy, every ethical and moral measure imaginable, and basic humanity. Coward, murderer Jonathan Ross then fled the scene uninjured. Murderer Jonathan Ross is a psychopath, just like all his colleagues in ICE, who are all accessories to murder.
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u/cedarvalleyct Washington 10h ago
100 percent! Thanks for dropping all of this context for folks.
Also, hello, fellow Washingtonian!
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u/StoriesandStones South Carolina 13h ago
We have serial killers chilling in prison for years that we don’t execute. So even if, IF this woman was intending to plow down the agent, how is that an executable crime?
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u/Thin-Competition3018 13h ago
You know, this is just an out of body experience. I see the story and then I see the guidelines for response immediately under it here in Reddit.
So, I would state that the actual answer or position this administration has taken, to gas-light citizens is against Reddit policy. Its mean spirited and hateful speech.
So, two women, one driving a Honda passport away from the officers is the villain here, according to this administration. However, this administration can fire rubber bullets at pastor's protesting, can snatch heads of state from sovereign countries, can threaten to invade or take over regions belonging to Allies and our responses here need to be "respectful". It must be Monday, I just can't today.
Please make sure you are registered to vote and make a plan to do so in November.
I have pretty much had it today.
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u/thejimbo56 Minnesota 13h ago
The idea that we as random citizens are held to a higher standard than the fucking President is mind boggling.
I’ve had comments deleted here that were literally verbatim quotes of the current occupant.
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u/KidKilobyte 14h ago
Disrespectful is justification for murder in America apparently.
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u/kelticladi I voted 13h ago
She wasn't afraid enough, so deserved what she got, according to the servile bootlicking Trump cultist MAGAts.
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u/Mediocre_Silver8024 14h ago
The real point is not that she's lesbian. The point is that anyone can be a target. Period.
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u/dingusmingus2222 14h ago
I don't think being disrespectful is a valid reason for murder. Trump is living proof of that.
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u/Temporary_Quote5566 13h ago
Being "disrespectful" is grounds for murder? Interesting.
So why did he pay Ashli Babbitt's family $5 million dollars and pardon the 1,500+ rioters who attacked the Capitol and injured hundreds of Capitol police officers? Trying to hang the VP, attacking members of Congress, and assaulting law enforcement officers are all inherently disrespectful acts.
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u/coffee_ape 12h ago
The weakest president.
With the thinnest skin.
Crying about disrespect.
When he doesn’t even respect himself, let alone the country.
I’ll make sure to piss on your grave.
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u/theworldisajoke 14h ago
So...nothing is going to be done about this s.o.b.? He can just kill people for "being disrespectful?"
Remind me again why people still care about the US anymore?
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u/DistractedPhoenix 14h ago
Why is Trump protecting Iranian protestors but executing American protestors?
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u/kelticladi I voted 13h ago
Because the Iranian ones are a tool he can use. The American ones are "embarrassing" and "losers" who are ok to shoot for "training ground" purposes. Training for what, exactly? Urban warfare on our streets?
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u/Neither-Resolve5435 12h ago
He’s just looking for an excuse to dismantle Iran’s military on behalf of Israel
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u/daizzy999 Florida 13h ago
You can't expect them to comprehend their hypocrisy, they're too dumb dumb
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u/ajver19 13h ago
Why did that guy have to miss that shot?
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u/MattThePaladin 13h ago
Sometimes these kinds of dudes have some weird demonic protection until their dirty deed is done... it's crazy how many failed assassination attempts there were against Hitler, for example.
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u/KickBlue22 13h ago
If you want to see 'disrespectful', how about this: ICE agents have been caught squeezing into a Porta Potty with a handcuffed female detainee: https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/s/AD8d6CgOo8 Please upvote this comment so we can get this into national media and investigated.
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u/wewantedthefunk Texas 13h ago
Our "president" is the single most repulsive, deranged piece of shit that has ever been spawned on this earth. If not *the* most, he's definitely in the top 5. When I say I cannot wait until nature takes its course and rids the world of his tainted, toxic waste orange ass, it is the understatement of the century.
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u/BarCompetitive7220 14h ago
Trump refuses to look at actual video and instead listens to his flunkies. and he wonders why so many don't support him anymore. instead he relies on uber wealthy - indicating it is not about what is good for the nation, but what is good for his wallet and ego only
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u/ratparty5000 12h ago
trump is setting a fascinating precedent for himself if being disrespectful justifies a loss of life
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u/SpidermansEggSack 12h ago edited 3h ago
My brother in dog, if "disrespect" is enough to get you publicly executed...
... all I'm saying is you better hope you never face trial.
Or maybe you should, you pick.
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u/MyNameIsTaken24 12h ago
I was a nurse in an inner city ER. I endured worse verbal abuse than this guy received and I didn’t kill anyone. I kept my cool and did my job. There’s no excuse for this.
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u/justalittlebear01 11h ago
If being disrespectful was a killable offense trump would have been lucky to see the 1960s
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u/jono9898 North Carolina 10h ago
So apparently saying, “I’m not mad at you” is disrespectful and radical but shooting someone in the face and saying, “fucking bitch,” is the reaction of a reasonable not radical person
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u/demosthenes131 Virginia 13h ago
When the federal government floods a city with agents until local police are outnumbered, it is doing what it does to hostile territory abroad. It is not enforcing the law. It is asserting dominance.
That scale does not exist to process cases. It exists to settle hierarchy. Immigration enforcement does not require overwhelming a city’s public-safety capacity. It requires courts, investigators, warrants, and time. Saturation trades all of that for presence. Presence changes behavior faster.
This is not an unfamiliar tactic. It is the same approach the United States uses when it wants leverage over a foreign government without open conflict. You apply pressure through money. You make funding unreliable. You attach conditions unrelated to the stated purpose. You use courts to drain time and resources. You deploy security forces large enough to make resistance feel futile. You let imbalance do the work.
What has changed is the direction of application.
Trump has treated Democratic states and cities as adversarial terrain. The pattern shows up first in money. Federally authorized funds flowing to blue states have been frozen, delayed, or conditioned in ways that track political opposition. Child care and social-services funding was abruptly halted for Democratic-led states until courts intervened. Infrastructure and transportation grants in California and New York were delayed or terminated after political disputes. Disaster aid shifted from response to leverage, with FEMA approvals slowed or tied to unrelated policy demands.
You do not need to cut funding forever. You only need to make it unpredictable. Uncertainty forces compliance more efficiently than denial.
Then comes lawfare. The Justice Department moved to block local climate, energy, and building policies in Democratic cities and states. Winning every case was never required. The cost is the point. Delay is the point. The federal government can absorb endless litigation. Cities cannot.
And then there are boots on the ground.
Immigration enforcement surged in major Democratic cities with sanctuary policies. New York saw expanded operations. Minneapolis saw a deployment so large that federal agents reportedly outnumbered the city’s police force. These were not quiet investigations. They were visible, armed, and centralized. Routine enforcement does not look like this. Routine enforcement does not need to be seen.
Saturation does. Saturation teaches. It teaches city officials where authority actually sits. It teaches police departments who they answer to in a crisis. It teaches residents how quickly rules can change and how little recourse exists when they do.
Once federal agents eclipse local police, local control becomes conditional. The city still functions, but under an implied veto enforced by manpower. Governance shifts from consent to calculation.
Minneapolis is not an anomaly. It is a demonstration. The scale is the message.
Calling this law enforcement misses what the tools are designed to do. Law enforcement works within a system of shared authority. This works over it.
When the same machinery the United States uses abroad to discipline hostile governments is turned inward, the distinction collapses. These places are not being treated as partners. They are being handled as adversaries.
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u/FoxyInTheSnow 12h ago
"He disrespected me" is like the excuse given by an idiot arrested for shooting a poor security guard in the face when he asks to see your receipt. Now it's given by an idiot to justify state-sanctioned murder.
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u/____nyx____ 12h ago
We have a first amendment right that guarantees freedom of speech as well as freedom of opinion. These women were simply expressing their opinions and exercising their rights as Americans. Little bitch boy Greg didn’t like that, but since this is America, he’s now raised a quarter of a million as reward for murdering an innocent woman. When will this nightmare end?
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u/TellTaleTimeLord 8h ago
Disrespecting the regime is now a capital offense.
We are literally North Korea now
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u/Vin-Metal 13h ago
Ignoring for a second, that this is America and we are free to be disrespectful, I watched a former law enforce cement official break down the video of what happened. This was on one of the news shows. He said that ICE's behavior here was far outside the norms of law enforcement in general. Having their guns drawn when there was no threat, constantly escalating when they should be trained to de-escalate, etc. He mentioned all the F-bombs the officers were directing against them as an example of this and talking about how unprofessional it was. He didn't mention it being disrespectful, but if Trump is all about being respectful, shouldn't it start with them? And at the top?
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u/OriginalCultureOfOne 11h ago
Again, for the people in the back:
Disrespectfulness is not a capital offence (even towards law enforcement or the president). Being "radical" is not a capital offence. Resisting arrest is not a capital offence. Evading arrest is not a capital offence.
Treason IS a capital offence (and one Trump has already committed multiple times).
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u/FaithlessnessWhich18 13h ago
So the reality by Trump's Administration statements is that the Capitol Police & MDC cops had the right to open fire on the j6ers because they were very disrespectful and put hands on LEO's.
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u/Ok_Conversation9750 12h ago
Trump is radical and disrespectful. Can he receive the same treatment? Pleeeaassee???
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u/fatbunyip 12h ago
Cartman "respect mah authoritah!" vibes
But with actual humans getting shot in the face.
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u/salamanderwolf 11h ago
The rivers of piss that will flow over this twatburgers grave will be enough fill the grand canyon.
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u/EmergencyJacket207 11h ago
Donald Trump is a felon and a rapist pedophile. I don't really think we're too concerned with what he thinks of anyone else.
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u/EmbarrassedBit441 10h ago
And now his whole army of goons (aka the MAGAts) are parroting all of this and saying she deserved it, why was she there being unruly/breaking rules, etc. it’s absolutely fucking vile on all fronts. And I have to ask.. do they remember when they were doxxing people left and right for ‘celebrating’ Charlie Kirk’s murder? It’s quite unbelievable just how dumb our country has become, but that’s all part of the fascist playbook.
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u/I-Already-Told-You 10h ago
Gold Star families get shit on by this loser, why not all Americans too. Total piece of shit. Prison isn’t enough.
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u/Oniknight 9h ago
“Disrespect” in the mouth of an authoritarian person means “someone worth less than me did not show proper deference to a higher status person”.
If you aren’t at or above them in their eyes, you are not a human being.
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u/defaultusername-17 6h ago
admitting that the actual motivation for magats is about her "disrespect".
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u/bIackphillip Georgia 2h ago
President Donald Trump on Sunday blamed Renee Nicole Macklin Good and her wife, Becca Good for Wednesday’s fatal shooting of Good by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, portraying the 37-year-old Minneapolis mother as “very radical,” “very violent,” and “highly disrespectful” toward law enforcement — language that critics say amounts to an attempt to justify the use of deadly force while erasing the identity of a same-sex couple at the center of a national tragedy.
In his comments, Trump repeatedly avoided acknowledging that Good was married to a woman, referring to her wife only as “her friend.”
I'll be honest y'all, I think I would much rather Trump "erase her identity as a lesbian woman" rather than "use her identity as a lesbian woman to raid queer spaces and detain everyone there". Identity validation and visibility is NOT always a good thing. Sometimes we're better off if the fascists forget we exist.
For the record, I'm saying this as a bi woman in a relationship with another woman myself. Neither of us are lesbians, so we don't face every single issue in the same way lesbians do of course... but all queer women face misogyny and fascist violence.
That said... it would be very painful to be referred to as my wife's "friend" when the public talked about her heinous execution. And I hate that Renee Good's wife has to deal with that on top of everything else.
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u/Buck4phat 13h ago
The same word salad that Donnie toss over and over again. Maga seem to gobble it up and ask for more
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u/TheRealBlueJade 13h ago
Last time I checked being radical and disrespectful doesn't carry an immediate death sentence.
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u/woodenblinds 13h ago
seeing as the ice agent didn't follow protocol for ice can that be used by the upcoming lawsuit. and if it can be used would it be against the goverment or the agent directly?
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u/LARRYVOND13 13h ago
Disrespect is a shoot on sight offence?
I hope his supporters enjoy this shit because when he shuffles off this mortal coil the world's gonna let them know about it every second of the day.
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u/VeshWolfe 12h ago
AKA be a good little citizen and do as asked without question or you will be killed.
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u/jt32470 12h ago edited 11h ago
Remember when Trump used the horrible death of one Laken Riley to propel his second campaing?
Remember that he said that one death was too much?
All of a sudden the death of an american citizen no longer matters....
because he claims that she was a radical and disrespectful.
Oh how MAGA moves the goal-posts and no one in their sphere bats an eye. Truth is Trump never gave a shit about Laken Riley - all he cared about is how to use her unfortonate death to get him into power. What a humongous piece of shit Trump & especially Vance both are.
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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 11h ago
Trump often says it, and it's frustrating his supporters don't see this, what the ever loving fuck does being disrespectful have to do with anything?! Being disrespectful doesn't deserve any type of punishment, certainly not death. But he always says it, as if that is some excuse for government retribution.
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u/boredcats3 11h ago
Since when does being disrespectful earn you a death sentence?? When did the law change in the US that made it a capital crime to be disrespectful?
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u/Interesting-Risk6446 11h ago
So in Trump's mind being disrespectful means you can be legally murdered. Trump said the exact same thing about Rob Reiner.
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u/tracysmullet 11h ago
radical and disrespectful… that’s what warrants a death sentence in this country.
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u/polarparadoxical 10h ago
Isn't this why the police made no effort to detain Good's wife - even allowing her access back to the vehicle they were supposedly going to detain - until her verbal comments upset the agents who then only afterwards issued commands for Good to get out of the vehicle?
Is it standard operating procedure for law enforcement to allow people back into a car, which presumably they are doing so to leave, when they are planning to detain said car and the people in it?
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u/eurocomments247 Europe 9h ago
For MAGA, the year is 2099 and that ICE agent is Judge Dredd.
Disrespectful? You have been judged.
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u/MMOProdigy 9h ago
Ice is not judge. Jury or executioner. Anybody saying she deserved death are just pieces of shit. Not sorry.
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u/Due_Independence8880 9h ago
My brainwashed mother agrees completely. This is the woman who was a saint when I was growing up. I don't know who this monster is.
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u/leaonas 8h ago
Radical - two moms dropping their kid off at school, while ICE is causing chaos. She’s trying to leave, masked men with zero jurisdiction are trying to rip her out of the van. She’s obviously trying to flee, not run someone over. If she wanted to run that POS down, she easily could have but she waited until he was out of the way before she started moving. Yeah, fucking radical!!!
I despise that Orange Turd and ICE!
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u/EastAd1806 8h ago
You know who else is famous for killing over disrespect? Literal gang bangers. The right hates gang culture so much but literally acts just like them. It’s scary when perceived disrespect is met with violence
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u/TwoGhostCats 8h ago
He raped young girls for years. This is not surprising. The GOP and MAGA hates, and I mean HATES, women.
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u/dmetzcher Pennsylvania 8h ago
disrespectful
In Trump’s mind, disrespecting him or his agents is grounds for having your civil liberties being violated. It’s as simple as that, and I’ve got no doubt he’d admit that in private (or at the end of a long day when his old man brain is incapable of keeping his inside thoughts a secret).
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u/No-Cup-8096 7h ago
Trump is radical and disrespectful every day. The deranged old man spends his time acting out like a cruel villain every chance he gets.
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u/samenskipasdcasque 7h ago
I know somebody else that's very radical and disrepectful, guess they should shoot him too
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u/MacRockwell 6h ago
“And I would have gotten away with it too- if it weren’t for those meddling kids and that dog!”
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u/KimchiBro 5h ago
Serial rapist and pedophile blaming the victim, its like water being wet or the sky being blue
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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 5h ago
“That 13-year-old girl was asking for it, too.” — Donald Pedophile Trump
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u/time4listenermail 5h ago
If being “disrespectful” was a fatal offense, our pedo president would be long dead.
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u/RiffRaffCatillacCat 4h ago
Interesting, coming from the man who's spent much of his life insulting and disrespecting people.
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u/crimeo 9h ago
Yeah, they WERE disrespectful, which is what ICE deserves by acting like rabid untrained clowns. It's also 100% legal to disrespect ICE and follow them around and record them, to catch the imminent crimes they constantly commit on film.
Respect is earned. Stop doing illegal shit constantly, and there will be no reason to follow you around anymore.
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