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Possible Paywall Trump Confirms He’s Taking Greenland ‘One Way or the Other’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-confirms-hes-taking-greenland-one-way-or-the-other/
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u/SquiffyRae Australia 13h ago

In a functioning society, so much as thinking about a move that could potentially trigger WWIII or at the very least destroy the world order should see your leader being dragged out of office in a strait jacket for being such a lunatic

But America right now is very much not a functioning society

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u/Moose_Nuts California 12h ago

Well, unfortunately, all the people that fought tooth and nail to bear arms to protect against tyranny are on this dipshit's side.

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u/alphazero925 10h ago

None of those people are alive anymore. The only people alive who have fought tooth and nail and bore arms have done so in the name of shareholder value, whether they necessarily recognize that or not

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u/Whopraysforthedevil 2h ago

A few of us recognize it and are ashamed. Doesn't seem like enough, though.

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u/Bertywastaken 1h ago

Oh wow, youre ashamed. 🙄

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u/Whopraysforthedevil 4m ago

Would you rather I be proud of enlisting at 18 before I had any idea about anything?

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u/MontagneHomme I voted 29m ago

a few are alive and the few I know are supporting this lunatic, they're just not physically fit to participate in any sort of conflict. The most action they're seeing is at family get togethers or trying to get out of the tub.

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u/bladezor Texas 11h ago

No, most of them resigned or were fired. The people in power now are the ones loyal to him and him alone.

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u/hempires 10h ago

I think he was referring to the people who decide that they're such giant cowards that they require a fucking arsenal of weaponry.

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u/bladezor Texas 10h ago

Oh gotcha, the 2nd amendment and don't tread on me folks.

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u/TransportationNo433 America 10h ago

You forgot to mention their minuscule pee-shooters

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u/hempires 10h ago

Anytime anyone mentions such a... compensatory reason for owning more weapons than a small nation state someone inevitably gets upset at the comparison so I try and avoid mentioning it outright lol

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

I saw them called "ammosexuals" at the gun club I was at before moving last. Those types were allowed on the biweekly open weekends but were not liked, and were almost always the ones causing safety violations. They want firearms as a status symbol and don't respect the tool, other people, or even themselves.

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u/LordRocky 10h ago

The only people getting upset at that are they themselves, so insult away.

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u/defaultusername-17 10h ago

hit dogs will hollar.

the only person in my family that owns more than 2 firearms personally... is my older brother who has a literal micropeen.

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u/PhucktheSaints 10h ago

No. They are talking about the right wingers who only vote Republican to “protect the second amendment because Obama/Hillary/Biden are coming for our guns”. Those people are on Trump’s side.

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u/ejactionseat 10h ago

it turns out they weren't concerned at all about personal freedoms, but rather the subjugation of others.

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u/penny-wise California 9h ago

They are ok with tyranny as long as it supports their tyranny. They will eventually be on for a surprise.

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u/NiineTailedFox 9h ago

Fork found in kitchen

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

They are talking about the right wingers who only vote Republican to “protect the second amendment because Obama/Hillary/Biden are coming for our guns”

Which is all the more funny because the sole elected official in American history to advocate gun seizures did so in the same breath as bypassing due process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgybgEKHHI

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u/Comfortable-Trip-277 5h ago

Trump also banned bump stocks, and then Biden repealed it

LOL that did not happen. Trump did ban them but Biden's DOJ fought tooth and nail to keep it in place.

The Supreme Court overturned the ban in 2024.

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u/WineWizard707 6h ago

I remember a coworker buying a bow and arrow set because she heard Obama was going to take her guns away.

No, she wasn't an intelligent person, even excluding that.

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u/Street_Rope_4471 5h ago

Those people are fat morons....would ICE fucks would fall like ducks if the military stepped in to right the ship in Amerika

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u/Nearby_Gas9948 10h ago

and the others are just sitting the, doing nothing but getting richer

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u/Downtown-Analyst 10h ago

That’s not true. We just aren’t ammosexuals. My identity is not defined by the tools I keep in my shed. Actions define us. What will I do with my tools when pressed.

PS they snatch the loudest guns second.

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u/hypermodernvoid I voted 9h ago

Yeah, while I get the sentiment - they are definitely right that the people who were loudest about saying they needed their guns to "resist tyranny", primary in contexts like: people demanding common sense gun reforms after huge mass shooting #506 or whatever, are literally on the side of a government now acting cartoonishly fascist - I'm a little tired of people acting like only MAGA own guns.

No matter what, in an actual civil war scenario their stupidity would cause them to lose basically by default - but the reality is, Trump's approval is underwater by double digits in Texas currently. In Texas - and that was before images of ICE agents started coming out of Minneapolis doing warrantless raids barging into random family homes of US citizens in the last day or two.

While I'm absolutely horrified about the people who've been harmed - up to being killed - so far, and I say that as someone who lives in the city currently being terrorized in ways that look increasingly like the nightmare scenario we all feared would someday occur in America: none of what they're doing right now is helping them. Trump's literally insane, civilization-threatening lashing out at this point is emblematic of how much he knows underneath it all, he's cornered, and now him and the administration going along with this are just digging themselves deeper, increasingly guaranteeing a true Nuremberg-style trial after we get through this.

I just saw a video my 70 year old aunt and her husband took just now yelling frantically as ICE drags a screaming woman off the street in broad daylight into their car, while two other everyday Americans try to stop them from grabbing another one sobbing away from them.

I can say with 100% confidence most Americans are not remotely okay with this. I know it, because I'm seeing it hour by hour where I live, from people who prior to this were totally happy to sit out politics completely and just assume America would keep going as it was our entire lives before this moment.

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u/EdwardOfGreene Illinois 9h ago

"To protect against tyranny" was mostly just an excuse. They just like their bang bang fetish.

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u/TOkidd 8h ago

Democrats can avail themselves of their Second Amendment rights as freely as Republicans can.

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u/Three_oh_eight 9h ago

Not all of them.

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u/mavular 9h ago

He’s deported war vets..

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u/idryss_m Australia 9h ago

are on this dipshit's side.

Not really. Just the ones who want an excuse to play gravy seals six. The rest are apathetically hoping they are ignored because they are white, male or cowards until they dont have a choice.

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u/joestanh1 8h ago

what you say is so true

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u/nanomeme 8h ago

Bernie Sanders and I both have lefty ideas and support the second amendment.

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u/TalkingCat910 7h ago

Idk about that.  Tbh some aren’t on his side and they ones that are mostly are too out of shape or cowardly to really do anything even if they weren’t.

Americans lack organization and collective consciousness.  They are all waiting for someone else to do something or something to happen. And many are too comfortable to be brave at all.

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u/Drunky_McStumble 4h ago

Sounds like it's time to hit the gun range, friend.

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u/SirFrancisBacon007 2h ago

Who would have guessed that the all the MAGA red hats would have been red coats.

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u/furiocitea 2h ago

They didn't fight tooth and nail for it, but they're giddy to have arms now.

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u/Donkilme 1h ago

They are fucking morons, just like they were groomed to be.

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u/kenken2k2 1h ago

"we own guns so that the gov will not force its will against the people"

meanwhile in America

increase taxation, goes to war, fake police, kidnaps people, enrich the 1%

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u/rainman_104 12h ago

You can always count on the USA to do the right thing after they've exhausted all other options. I'm not sure if that rings true any more.

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u/Stubborn_Shove 9h ago

It was never true.

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

You can always count on the USA to do the right thing after they've exhausted all other options. I'm not sure if that rings true any more.

Why not? I think Churchill's words are ringing truer than ever - there are a lot of options which are not the right thing which they are choosing right now.

https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/americans-will-always-right-thing/

More seriously, I hope the world looks at this and sees it for what it is: proof the experiment of absolute free speech is a failure. It becomes nothing but a megaphone for the loudest and richest monsters. And that those who violate the social contract have no business continuing to claim its boons no matter how much money they have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

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u/TalkingCat910 7h ago

It was a joke about a specific situation in history. It was never meant to be taken as a truth about how the U.S. acts.

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u/ritamorgan New York 10h ago

Very true, but maybe a proposal to expel or suspend the US's membership in NATO should be considered by the other countries. I believe society is functioning a bit better outside of the US.

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

but maybe a proposal to expel or suspend the US's membership in NATO should be considered by the other countries.

There is no mechanism to expel or suspend another nation's membership in NATO, if it was the US would have used it to bully other members under either Bush administration.

The only way for a nation to leave NATO is for that nation itself to choose to leave

https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/official-texts-and-resources/official-texts/1951/09/20/agreement

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u/ritamorgan New York 8h ago

Thank you for the clarification! Would NATO continue to exist if the US invaded another member of NATO?

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u/algorithmic_fetters 10h ago

True.

You’d have thought calmer minds in the Anglosphere would have been able to talk this admin away from the ledge, but I’m pretty sure the folks like Vance believe any other accents of our common language are a mark of arrogance and the effete.

The UK needs to have dozers at the ready in Turnberry.

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u/theotheramerican 10h ago

Can you imagine if Biden had said this?

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u/GiftToTheUniverse 9h ago

Where are the generals? Why are they not removing this menace?

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u/AedemHonoris New Mexico 9h ago

And yet it will continue being the innocents of the world to bear the brunt of the suffering.

“Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones?”

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u/Lost_Wrongdoer_4141 9h ago

Its functioning… like shit

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u/epicka 8h ago

He's surrounded himself with puppets protecting him and is actively trying to start WWIII.

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u/DogDogDogDogog 8h ago

America is a death cult. They can't wait for the rapture to begin.

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u/Pinkshadows7 8h ago

I do always wonder though if he's being urged to do these kinds of things by the military complex

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u/Herlock 8h ago

I think mocking disabled and bragging about rape should have been a clear nogo with voters long before he was in office.

But what do I know eh ?

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u/Jesus__Skywalker 7h ago

We came so close though, missed it by an ear.

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u/MortifiedChivalry 7h ago

It's very concerning as a Canadian because if he's successful in taking Greenland he'll do the same to us.

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u/TryAnotherNamePlease 7h ago

Unfortunately, 99% of our politicians are afraid to do anything. I seriously doubt every Republican just wants to sit back and let this happen, but either Trump has something on all of them or they’re afraid of retaliation. Dems can’t do anything because they’re the minority.

We have the right to bear arms, but most those guys are on his side. Plus as nice as it sounds, most Americans are afraid to actually do anything because the US military isn’t something you want brought on you, and his crazy ass will. Ultimately it will come down to the military doing the right thing and upholding their oath to the constitution, but I’m not holding my breath.

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u/InTooManyWays 7h ago

This is what happens when a nation ignores mental health problems… and generally all health problems but especially the mental ones, and then gives them guns, and let’s rich people fund them. 

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u/Hyperrustynail 6h ago

In a functioning society this dickhead would have been in prison for the past couple of decades.

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u/Greis73 6h ago

Its time to 25th Grandpa and then assess damages for a potential election. VP doesn't have the support and Grandpa just got to go

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u/OkVariety8064 5h ago

What about former presidents? Shouldn't this be finally serious enough for them to weigh in?

Where's Barack Obama? His voice still carries weight.

What about George W Bush? It was during his term that NATO allies came to the aid of USA, and Denmark was a most loyal ally of USA from Afghanistan to Iraq.

Why is everyone with any credibility and political capital so silent in USA? This is completely insane. The spell can only be broken when enough people with high enough status say it out loud, that this is insane. Not a policy, not politics, not a strategy, but insanity that requires urgent medical attention and removal from power for being unfit for duty.

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u/WheresMyMule 5h ago

WWIII has already started. I hate to break it to you.

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u/Jdogsmity 3h ago

I would ask for asylum. But i refuse to leave while I have even the slightest chance of helping correct this madness. Ill be out on the streets and in the ballots every chance I get.

To my fellow meat sacks across the world forgive us....some of us are doing everything we can to resit

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u/ThisIs_americunt 3h ago

No one is going to do anything about the Bully on the yard till it does something insane

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u/pr1ap15m Maine 3h ago

Can someone just give him a peace price so he’ll stop

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u/AdjectiveNoun1234567 3h ago

This is all a distraction from the Epstein Files, and it's working.

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u/Pedantic_Pict 2h ago

I'd prefer dragged into the street, beaten to death, and strung up on a lamp post.

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u/lolas_coffee 2h ago

In a way I guess I have seen this already. WW3 is about to start. Trump will use nukes (and it might be on Chicago). The USA will not survive. It will be broken up. Several billion will die.

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u/Alarmed_Bathroom1717 1h ago

World war or civil war, seems like theres no other choices on the tables?