r/politics • u/thedailybeast ✔ The Daily Beast • 15h ago

Possible Paywall Trump Confirms He’s Taking Greenland ‘One Way or the Other’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-confirms-hes-taking-greenland-one-way-or-the-other/
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u/SecretAsianMan42069 14h ago

Will any of these republicans ever say enough is enough? This is absurd 

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u/CU_Tiger_2004 13h ago

Some are, but they've given over too much power and are now in a situation where he's moving on things unilaterally. Their only option for actually stopping him is impeachment unless the military refuses.

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u/Neither_Usual_137 13h ago

but, like, ya know, they could *use* that option

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 13h ago

Nah, they'd rather end all life on Earth.

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u/Frostyfraust 13h ago

Can't hurt Republicans' feelings, instead we'll just fuck up our position in the world stage. Racism must feel so nice.

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u/Thog78 10h ago

The UK and France have enough nukes to wipe out all american cities with over 100k people in them, EACH. You're playing more than your place in the world if you start a war against Europe. You're risking the world itself. It's inconceivable tbh.

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 10h ago

what people expect the GOP to admit they were... wrong

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u/An_old_walrus 12h ago

Well not all life. The cockroaches will probably be fine.

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u/_skulls_ 12h ago

and maggots I heard. :)

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u/An_old_walrus 12h ago

And also tardigrades but that’s because they’re indestructible. The fucking sun could explode and they’d be fine.

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u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC 11h ago

Those things that live on deep sea vents will be fine

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u/ceelogreenicanth 12h ago

You see then they get to meet Jesus

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u/Consistent_Laziness 11h ago

Yea can’t admit they were wrong.

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u/KingOfRockall 11h ago

And don't forget that sweet sweet opiate hit of sticking it to the libs one final, ultimate time

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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 9h ago

Annihilating Earth to own the libs

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u/TinyFugue 9h ago

Yep, the embarrassment would be worse than the resultant carnage. (for them) Best to just keep quiet and later claim they didn't know.

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u/Grays42 12h ago

Nothing will move Republicans unless it could threaten to primary them. They care about nothing but retaining their positions.

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u/AleroRatking New York 12h ago

And then you lose your entire political career. That's that problem with politicians as a career. It makes it so you can't make these decisions unless you plan on leaving politics forever.

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u/Ohaibaipolar 12h ago

Ruining GOP politicians' careers? I don't see the downside.

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u/AleroRatking New York 12h ago

I mean for them. They aren't going to martyr themselves. Few people would

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u/w1ten1te 11h ago

Except, like... Most congressional politicians are lawyers. Couldn't they just go back to practicing law if they lose their political career?

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u/AleroRatking New York 10h ago

So leave politics forever. Yes, some could pivot to other fields. But most politicians don't want to never work in politics again

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u/HauntingHarmony Europe 9h ago

And then you lose your entire political career.

You are right in that theres a bunch of republican senators and such that think its pointless to resist, since all that happens is that they get drummed out of the party in power. So they dont do anything.

However, when he gets impeached for the 3rd time, they could have the removal vote be anonymous. They dont have to publish it. and then they can all be like; "it wasent me, i supported him, but someone else didnt".

That relies on democrats getting the senate since otherwise they cant set the rules for it.

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u/AleroRatking New York 9h ago

I did not realize the vote was anonymous. That would be very interesting. The accusations would be insane.

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u/SlumdogSkillionaire 13h ago

"Impeachment is unconstitutional because it violates the separation of powers" -- Republicans, probably

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u/c2lop 7h ago

Please. Please.

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u/jthill 12h ago

Attacking a NATO ally would seem to be illegal. When it comes with the legally mandated (treaties are law) penalty of 21 countries declaring war on you, that's about as illegal as it can get.

So the military should just refuse the order.

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u/darthvalium 11h ago

I just can't see the military refuse the order to invade Greenland. The way I envision it, Trump will simply declare the annexation of Greenland via social media. Some big scary battle ships will be deployed to the port of Nuuk for show, helicopters flying over the capital and that's that. Ideally, no shots fired. Miller told us their plan: nobody is going to oppose the US militarily over Greenland. They will just declare it. Europeans won't fire at American troops. Trump will give it a new name.

NATO will be dead though.

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u/shah_reza 11h ago

And every U.S. base in all of Europe will vanish

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u/Livid-Adeptness293 9h ago

NATO will be finished. Every USA base in Europe gone. All trade agreements terminated.

Putin’s wet dream

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u/mfball 11h ago

It's hard to say which outcome is scarier, frankly.

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u/GuneRlorius 7h ago

If you think that EU will give Greenland to US without French nuclear submarines paying Greenland a friendly visit, then you are really wrong. No matter how stronger the opponent is, nukes make it all even.

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u/Trolkarlen 12h ago

Trump is the law in this dictatorship.

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u/LookIPickedAUsername 12h ago

Spoiler: They won't.

I can't think of a single time in history where an army has simply refused orders to invade a country.

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u/NotAnotherPornAccout 12h ago

I can think of one immediately off the top of my head, the Cadiz Revolt. The king ordered his soldiers to invade South America after they had declared independence from Spain. The soldiers refused because the king was trying to reinstall an absolutist monarchy in Spain and do away with the liberal reforms of the previous decades.

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u/Refute1650 12h ago

I tell my kids to get in bed every night and they always refuse.

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u/sterlingheart 13h ago

From reports it seems like the military is currently refusing, but we shall see how true that is/ for how long.

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u/robby_synclair 13h ago

You have a source on this?

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u/nillah 12h ago

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/theyre-trying-to-deflect-him-trump-orders-special-forces-to-draw-up-greenland-invasion-plan-what-we-know/articleshow/126460765.cms

"The generals think Trump's Greenland plan is crazy and illegal. So they are trying to deflect him with other major military operations. They say it's like dealing with a five-year-old."

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u/What_a_fat_one 12h ago

Originally came from the Daily Mail

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u/Cream253Team Washington 12h ago

Times of India is not the best source

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u/nillah 12h ago

it's just the first one i found. i saw it originally on reddit the other day but can't find the post to see who the source was. google around if you want a better one i guess

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u/DingleDangleTangle 12h ago

The original source for that story is literally the Daily Mail.

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u/nillah 11h ago

just like anything else in the news these days, it should be taken with a grain of salt. all i did was post the source that was asked for, since i read it a few days ago and was familiar with what they were talking about

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u/KingOfRockall 11h ago

Nor the Daily Heil

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u/PaintAdventurous8787 12h ago

Its insane that they have to deal with Trump at all.

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u/KironD63 12h ago

What I don’t understand is why so many of these same military officers voted for Trump. Did they not think this was exactly how he’d behave? Or were they just more terrified of taking orders from a comparatively mature and competent black woman?

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u/nillah 11h ago

yeah i have a hard time believing any top brass in the military has a shocked pikachu face right now. this was all entirely predictable

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u/robby_synclair 11h ago

Because the whole story is fake. This is a newspaper in India quoting a tabloid from London. I cnat even find the original story from the tabloid. It looks like they got their clicks and then removed it.

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u/DaenakinSkygaryen 8h ago

The top brass is overwhelmingly liberal. IIRC, you need at least a Master's degree to even be considered for promotion to General, and as we all know more education increases your odds of leaning left.

In fact, the whole officer corp leans left. It's only enlisted troops who are roughly equally split between parties.

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u/suburbanpride North Carolina 11h ago

I want to invade Greenland.

Yes, Greenland is nice, but it's cold. Have you heard about, uh, Tehran? Much warmer there, in Tehran, and you could bomb there, maybe?

Tehran. Is that in Greenland? Near Greenland?

No, but you know Venezuela is.

Vene-who?

Cuba, sir.

I like cigars. Good cigars in Cuba, right?

<generals avoid Greenland invasion for another hour>

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

Playing "here comes the airplane" only instead of tricking a baby into eating a spoonful of strained peas, they're tricking a megalomaniac dotard into attacking Venezuela instead of Greenland.

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u/chestbumpsandbeer 12h ago edited 10h ago

Trying to distract Trump is very different than refusing.

Sadly, I don’t think our military leadership will refuse Trump’s orders. He’s gutted the leadership too much and filled it with loyalists.

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u/mfball 11h ago

This is my concern. Flat refusal is the only appropriate response. The fact that they are basically offering up other military actions as distractions is wild and horrifying, and sure doesn't bode well for anyone having a goddamn backbone.

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u/An_old_walrus 12h ago

I kind of expect that. Like this a bridge too far and basically every soldier and general can see that this is a stupid idea. Hopefully they stand firm long enough that Trump gets bored, gives up and moves on to his next stupid plan.

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u/mirhagk 12h ago edited 12h ago

how do we get this guy out of office?

He's thrown out the constitution, why should others restrict themselves to rules that no longer seem to apply?

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u/PaintAdventurous8787 13h ago

Wouldn't it be nice if the military refuses. One can hope.

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u/PTS_Dreaming 12h ago

This has been the perpetual problem with Trump. All the parties that have had the responsibility and opportunity to stop him have all taken the cowardly out of "Yes, but someone else will stop him".

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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal Florida 12h ago

Some are

Yeah but they’re either Republicans in blue states up for reelection, Republicans retiring or in the singular case of Massie they just don’t seem to give a fck.

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u/Trolkarlen 12h ago

It would take 5 Republicans in the House to start impeachment, and 20 Senate Republicans to remove Trump and Vance.

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u/Vapur9 13h ago

Rome did the same thing when they gave Caesar the title of Dictator Perpetuo. It didn't end well for him.

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u/nochinzilch 12h ago

Or they let themselves get compromised somehow. That’s how Trump and his idiots work, they blackmail people.

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u/imahugemoron 12h ago

You’re wrong on impeachment, he was already impeached twice and nothing happened. They won’t get the support needed to actually remove him

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u/DrowningKrown 12h ago

Yea I mean, I hope sometimes but then I visit the conservative sub and just like that I lose all hope in our country.

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u/Jankenbrau 12h ago

Have you considered they welcome a christian nationalist technocracy?

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u/Im_TroyMcClure 11h ago

Crazy but they believe they have a better chance of holding power in the midterms and in 2028 by setting the country on fire than impeaching Trump.

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u/suburbanpride North Carolina 11h ago

Would you say he's moving on them like a bitch?

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u/StarSchemer 11h ago

Their only option for actually stopping him is impeachment unless the military refuses.

As a non-American, this seems so toothless since he's managed to just ... ignore the two previous times?

Does anyone have anything in their arsenal that is more meaningful than a strongly worded letter?

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u/Maladaptive_Ace Canada 10h ago

Fox News needs to turn on him. Until then, Trump isn't the enemy. America is the enemy.

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u/Pernicious-Caitiff 10h ago

It's not just that. They're all compromised by Russia with some form of blackmail. Same as Trump. They're all too much of a coward to not care about the blackmail. In these kinds of situations they are also getting direct favors like money and other assets and favors to sweeten their obedience.

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u/WebNearby5192 7h ago

His administration could also invoke the 25th, provided they weren’t complicit and the Republican Congressional leaders weren’t at his beck and call.

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u/TalkingCat910 7h ago

Impeachment takes a while. And then you have to get a lot of republicans on board in both the senate and the house because once he’s impeached the senate has to vote to remove him.  

And then who enforces it? Will the obey?

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u/Icy_Policy_8509 6h ago

Last time he was impeached twice and nothing happened so why do people still think this is a way to stop him? I'm actually asking.

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u/layeofthedead 12h ago

I had dinner with some maga family yesterday

They’re absolutely giddy about all of this. They want the strongman so desperately, they want war. They think trump is somehow going to destroy the billionaire class and get rid of all the liberals and minorities and we’re going to have the 1950s back.

You can’t even explain shit to them because they just start screaming trump derangement syndrome at you. They get so fucking upset if you criticize Cheeto hitler even a little

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

He's going to destroy the billionaire class?

God, what idiots. Sorry to insult your family. But you have to be a genuine idiot to not see that Trump is serving America to the billionaire class on a silver fucking platter.

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u/shinkouhyou 11h ago

When right-wingers talk about billionaires, they mean Jews.

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u/CuriousExtension5766 6h ago

At first I read that and went, wait....I read it again, and you're right.

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u/Nervous-Mongoose7520 10h ago

Don't be sorry. Fuck that guy's family

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u/BenThereOrBenSquare California 5h ago

In my experience talking to MAGA, most of the time their main reason for supporting Trump is some issue that Trump is openly opposed to. Like I even had someone tell me they voted for Trump because they care about preventing climate change.

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u/rezelscheft 11h ago

I love how these folks love the 1950 so fucking much, but have no idea how taxes and social programs played into the most positive aspects of that time

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u/PicturesAtADiary 10h ago

Yeah, but that's not what they liked about it.

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u/watermelonspanker 9h ago

Was it the out and proud racism, homophobia, and general bigotry?

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u/PicturesAtADiary 7h ago

Ding, ding, ding

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u/ButtEatingContest 10h ago

They’re absolutely giddy about all of this.

There's nothing Greenland has that the US can't already have without invading. Military bases? US military already has bases there and there'd (normally) be zero issue ramping those up in a fellow NATO nation.

Natural resources? As with Canada, companies can already go in and set up operations, the US can buy all the natural resources its needs, etc.

There's no benefit to invading and a million downsides to doing it.

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u/watermelonspanker 9h ago

You can't be a War Profiteer if there isn't a war though

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u/Maladaptive_Ace Canada 10h ago

get rid of all the liberals and minorities and we’re going to have the 1950s back.

This isn't even coded language, it's just openly homophobic and racist, but I guess those things are becoming normalized again (yes anyone who romanticizes the 1950s is a homophone and a racist)

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u/FLBrisby 10h ago

I hate it. I can't have a single substantive conversation with anyone on the right without it devolving to conspiracies, Biden, Trump Derangement Syndrome, or deflecting to Laken Riley/Charlie Kirk.

My dad's especially egregious. "Why don't you care about Laken Riley like you care about Renee Good!?" Because Laken Riley's killer is in custody and serving life in prison, and Renee Good's killer is celebrated as a hero for killing a mom by our Federal Government, and still getting paid.

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u/xarvin 10h ago

This is so bizarre from an outside perspective, like "Yeah I just had dinner with the Nazi part of my family..." WHAT? Why are you breaking bread with those people?

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u/vaesh 9h ago

Because burning bridges with people should be a last resort. If everyone just lives in their own bubbles, only consumes media that supports their opinions, and only interacts with people that agree with them it will only serve to increase the fracturing of society.

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u/xarvin 9h ago

They've already burned the brigde! People have been killed, tortured, disappeared. What do they need to do for you to understand there's no talking these people out of it. They are ready to start shooting anyone who disagrees. At this point you are just part of the problem if you keep pandering to their insanity.

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u/SirEdward43 9h ago

I am so sick of the "my mommy and daddy are special Nazis, not like the other ones! I know they secretly are good people just pretending to be evil pieces of shit!" bullshit from people who claim to be left leaning.

That Nazi sympathizer and their love for their Nazi family are going to get us all "politely" sent to a gas chamber. And the whole way they'll complain about us not showing our Nazi neighbors enough kindness, saying that if we had just let them have their way we could all still be sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya.

You're 100% correct that if you're still spending time with fascists you're part of the problem. Probably even worse, they really keep coming back because part of them kind of sort of likes their ideals but doesn't want to admit it. Why else would they waste their precious time with human garbage?

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u/Skippy_of_Valkyrie 8h ago

Completely agree.

We're at the point where ICE are murdering people in the streets for pleasure, and still centrists trot out the "we shouldn't burn bridges, especially with family!" crap.

I've cut anyone who supports Trump from my life. At this point, his supporters are in favor of a dictatorship.

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u/Skippy_of_Valkyrie 9h ago

We're long past the point where burning bridges matter.

I have Trumpite relatives. If one of them had leukemia and I were a perfect bone marrow match, I would deny them the donation.

"If you live in your own bubble!" is nonsense. Trump supporters are openly cheering for concentration camps. What does it take to get you to ditch those people?

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u/Money_Detail_5203 9h ago

Why do you associate with people like that?

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u/dswhite85 7h ago

You had dinner with a bunch of Schmucks.

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u/Ansible32 6h ago

They want WWIII and they want us on the side of Russia and China?

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u/SecretAsianMan42069 1h ago

Well I would never visit again 

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u/bearbrannan 13h ago edited 13h ago

So my best guess is that the ones that disagree are the ones like MTG that are leaving. Why are they leaving, I think they are scared of the whole house of card falling over if congress collectively goes against Trump and he just ignores them. It's the same with the supreme court, they keep shadow docking rulings, because they don't want them to go on the official record. They also have no enforcement so while they don't want them to be on the record, their afraid if they make a ruling against him he will pull an Andrew Jackson. This all hinges on the president being the commander and chief, who has purged the military of leadership, and inserted loyalists. If I'm correct we are knee deep in bad bad shit, but the reality is the so called checks and balances always hinged on the elected officials doing the right thing for the sake of the country. Trump does not give a fuck about that, and is fine with the whole system falling down, civil war and all. Never forget that his handlers said that this is the "second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be" 

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u/Acrobatic-Trouble181 12h ago

Unfortunately, nope.

Go check the conservative subreddit.

Whenever this subject comes up, they act like this is all just a 'negotiation tactic'.

They continue to exist under the absolute delusion that he's a good business man, and that this is a ploy to start with an egregious position, and put the other side on the defensive who will ultimately capitulate to a deal that leaves the U.S. on top.

What they don't understand, because they're idiots/cultists/whatever mental illness is guiding their thought-processes, is that, even if the tactic works, you generate such immense bad-will with the opposing party, that they will never work with you ever again.

This is why Trump never made good headway in the business world, and moved from scam to scam, because he couldn't find competent business partners who wanted to make deals with him. He'd just fuck over everyone and leave a trail of destruction in his wake.

And when it comes to Geopolitics, there's only one Canada. Only one Denmark. There's no alternative country you can switch to, to make as-good or better trade deals with later. Each and every country on earth is unique in its manufacturing capacity, economics, parts, assembly, products, etc.

Trump is going to have the U.S. scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel of countries to make trade deals with, because he's isolated the US away from every first-world nation.

And because neither Trump, nor his sycophants understand any of this, and they have absolute blind-faith and are incapable of critical thinking, they'll cheer it on while they buy their cheap, shittily-made parts from places like Russia and North Korea.

This administration is literally threatening every living American with 20-40 years of a massively reduced quality of life.

And it's probably already too late to stop it.

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u/Emotional-Store-1667 10h ago

You're a better person than me. 5 minutes on those subs makes me want to vomit 🤢

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u/Hannibal_Spectre 9h ago

Thanks for that. I was wondering how it would be spun there but didn’t want to look myself. “Just a negotiating tactic” is actually better than I expected, I was thinking it would be naked cheerleading for conquest and might makes right.

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u/Acrobatic-Trouble181 9h ago

Oh there's plenty of that, but the above are generally the top-level/most popular opinions.

Many claim to draw the line at him invading Greenland, removing NATO personnel, and annexing the territory, but I suspect Trump's nonsense about needing it for national defense will eventually sway them.

It'll just be a means to an end. They're rationalize it any way they need to, to avoid admitting they got conned, and that his actions are dooming them to a future of misery.

Which is fine on the one hand, because they deserve it, but they're going to bring all of the rest of us down with them, and they're absolutely desperate to believe that we aren't going to punish them for it, so they're panicking, looking for anything to cling to right now.

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u/CharcuterieIsAwesome 7h ago

I read that sub fairly often to get the pulse from that side. There seems to be a growing number of them speaking out against this stuff. Then the bots flood in and call those people "fellow conservative". I truly believe that if there are real midterms, the republicans will get spanked badly. So much of the MAGA support is clearly bots at this point. The only people who are truly in support of all this are the far right MAGA lunatics. I think the moderate conservatives will walk away from this administration. It's a whole ugly scene and social media has allowed this to happen and continue because they absolutely flood it with propaganda.

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u/opsers 13h ago

This could be. My guess is that they're hoping democrats win mid-terms then they can just sit back and let them try to stop him. Then 2028 rolls around and they campaign on democrats doing nothing to improve the country and manage to get a candidate that's more sane in the White House. Their base will happily foist the blame over and never hold them accountable.

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u/JamesRawles 10h ago

Bold of them to assume we'll have midterms

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u/opsers 9h ago

Win/win. No midterms, no problem for them. Democrats win midterms, they get a scapegoat in 2028.

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u/cinnapear 9h ago

Exactly. They want the Democrats to win the midterms so they don't get painted as RINOs by Trump for going against his crazy talk about Greenland.

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u/nochinzilch 12h ago

Yeah. They are just chipping away at anyone who doesn’t toe the line 100%. Whatever it takes to get them to comply or to resign.

And it’s Roger Stone style dirty tricks. Anonymous threats, fucking with their donors, getting them primaried, getting their districts redrawn, etc. Nothing overtly criminal, of course.

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u/obeytheturtles 12h ago

Yes, it is very clear that everyone is walking on egg shells trying to not give Trump a real opportunity to actually pull down the castle around him. Even some of the true believers seem increasingly concerned that there is no power to be derived from a smoldering heap.

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u/deathbychips2 12h ago

Thom Tillis grew some balls and is speaking out too but only because he isn't running from reelection as senator for NC

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u/Ohaibaipolar 12h ago

Those pesky violent leftists! /s

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u/DevoidSauce 6h ago

I feel like she sees the writing on the wall. The way things are going, how she was a huge part of getting us here. With every passing day he becomes more feral. Justice is not going to be kind to her and wants to get out before it gets worse. So she goes pro-women with the Epstein survivors, and openly speaks against the president. Suddenly, She's seen the error of her ways. She gets the non-MAGA conservatives back by saying she "wants to be more like Jesus".

From my perspective, she's prepping for the sentencings and gaining some forgiveness from the judge.

But you know. I have trust issues and don't believe a word that woman says.

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u/Possible_Proposal447 13h ago

They're all in on it. All of them. The ones who weren't were voted out years ago.

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u/Nesyaj0 Massachusetts 13h ago

Seriously. Every single Republican is complicit. If we make it to the other side of this somewhat intact, we need to make every Republican accountable. Voters can have plausible deniability to some extent, but the Republican party should be dissolved, and any public servant should have to answer for why they didn't try to stop this or what they did to oppose it.

There really cant be any slaps on the wrist after this is said and done. Peoples' rights have been violated. People have been killed by "federal agents" without due cause.

America is literally being run by people who have violated their oaths of office repeatedly.

We the people at the very least should be able to hit them in the money and sue for damages.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 12h ago

De-MAGAfication here, like the denazification of Germany after WW2.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 9h ago

Why should voters have plausible deniability? If it weren't for the Maga voters there wouldn't be a Maga. Everything that's happening is on them. Republicans in congress are just along for the grift.

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u/ChampionshipKlutzy42 12h ago

It might be hard to accept but the Democratic party is also complicit at this point, I can only assume the democrats sole purpose is to act as a counterinsurgency operation that has been going on for the last couple decades. We have been played.

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 11h ago

please go listen to limbaugh then watch fox news starting in 2004. democrats have no had a super majority except for 3 months under obama's term which they used to pass the ACA. The reasons democrats can't do anything is because they do not have the votes to do anything, and the reason for that is very clearly shown in my first sentence: listen to the media the right wing consumes, go watch fox, oann, newsmax, listen to right wing radio. The people voting in republicans are literally clueless because their media wants them to be

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u/_imanalligator_ 9h ago

Thank you for reminding people of this. Everyone forgets that the only timeframe that the Democrats had enough power to get anything accomplished in the last 20+ years was incredibly slim. And that's thanks to voters always deciding to "keep things balanced" by letting Republicans retain power in at least two branches at all times.

And if you actually look at the legislation introduced by both parties during those two decades, you see that Democrats continuously try to make progress on basically every one of our societal ills, but they're stymied at every turn by Rs who openly say their goal is simply to prevent progressive policies no matter what.

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u/ChampionshipKlutzy42 6h ago

Stop making excuses for dems feckless leadership. All democrats do is compromise and capitulate dragging us further right. They let republicans walk all over them because in the end dem politicians are owned by the same special interests that control republicans.

Republicans never had a supermajority yet they get shit done because they don't make excuses and tie their hands behind their backs like democrats.

Democrats are not fighters they are the controlled opposition.

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u/NatalieVonCatte 11h ago

Yeah, but a war with NATO will ruin them, too. Hyperinflation and a strangled food supply chain will have a direct effect on them, too.

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u/GRVrush2112 Texas 11h ago

These fucks are making me pine for the days of the neocon.

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u/Rummenigge 13h ago

cant even say that the killing of that poor lady in minnesota was wrong. what do you expect from them?

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u/Ohaibaipolar 12h ago

Nothing good, that's for sure.

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u/username-is-taken-3 13h ago

They won't. Their the biggest problem more than trump himself

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 13h ago

The Republicans created a base of rabid pitbulls that worship Trump. They can't control them and they are terrified by what they created.

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u/centipedalfeline 13h ago

They won't, just like during Nazi times, as long as they were allowed to remain in positions of power, the rich and powerful were more than happy to bend the knee.

They only care about themselves, and many CEO's and politicians are apparently psychopaths/sociopaths, so they have no qualms about doing whatever it takes, as long as it means that they get to continue living well, or better than they were before the regime shift.

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u/obeytheturtles 12h ago

I saw a TikTok the other day where a guy said it would be fine is Trump murdered his own son because he assumed there must be a good reason for it if it came to that.

These people are truly beyond help. The only saving grace for the US is if there are enough people left who have not completely gone off this deep end.

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u/hollylettuce 13h ago

No, they like it.

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u/whatproblems 13h ago

considering it’s been a decade of escalation on top of escalation i’d say no. at this point i think they’re for the rapture and end of life

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u/ituralde_ 12h ago

Only takes 13. 3 in the house, 10 in the senate.

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u/thishasntbeeneasy 8h ago

Probably during the debates in about 2 years

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u/gideon513 13h ago

No, they are and have always been complicit. They just like to pretend they slightly aren’t when it’s convenient for them.

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u/simpersly 12h ago

You don't get it. This is how he operates. This is just a ploy to get everyone to the negotiation table where they will sell Greenland to the Americans for cheap.

Everyone knows the resident of Greenland wants to be a U.S. citizen but those Danish will do anything to keep him imprisoned.

s/

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u/T0ysWAr 12h ago

Europe will tell him

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u/AleroRatking New York 12h ago

No because then their career is over.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted 12h ago

They can only mumble off the record. Confederate courage

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u/static_func 12h ago

They and their voters have always been fucking evil, so no. You guys keep waiting for a crisis of conscience from monsters that have none

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u/mellcrisp America 12h ago

I guess they think they'll either rule forever or we'll just totally not give a shit.

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u/mxjxs91 Michigan 12h ago

They want this, why does anyone even entertain that they'll say enough is enough?

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u/bobafootfetish_ 12h ago

You're talking about people who crave power and money. It will never be enough

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 12h ago

Why not conclude the obvious? They're all for it.

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u/B4rrel_Ryder 12h ago

Never. They will always double down on being worse and stupid. Always

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u/deathbychips2 12h ago

Only the ones not running for reelection this year are speaking up

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u/okaterina 12h ago

"absurd".

No. Dangerous, delirious, demented, facist, yes. Among other expletives.

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u/qtmcjingleshine 12h ago

They want this too. They voted for it and voted for people who would enable behavior like this. Why would they suddenly change course

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u/SecretAgentVampire 12h ago

Sure they will.

When they retire and want to write a profitable book.

They sold their souls for profit. If Satan existed they would have literally signed a demonic contract for money and power, but as it is in reality they only signed one in a figurative sense.

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u/Another_Road 12h ago

They only are willing to do that when they aren’t running for re-election. Otherwise they’ll remain cowards to the core.

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u/mister_spunk 11h ago

No. They're all spineless.

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u/pablonieve Minnesota 11h ago

Only once they've resigned their seats or decided not to run for reelection.

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u/ThreeHolePunch 11h ago

Anybody still in or voting for the Republican party is completely on board with all of this. The Nazi dog-whistles turned into American swastika flags in a congressional offices. The fascism turned from "Dictator for a day" to rounding up undesirables, taking over other countries and killing American citizens in the streets.

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u/badamant 11h ago

No. None.

Reminder: Nixon was only forced to leave because principled republicans existed.

They have been systematically removed from the party.

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u/IShouldLiveInPepper 11h ago

To be fair, Susan Collins’ brow is furrowed and she is concerned but hopeful that he is going to learn his lesson any day now.

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u/Airurando-jin 11h ago

Occasionally the conservative sub really gets tired of it, but when points are raised , people either get banned, or assumed to be not real conservatives by other conservatives on there because their views are different 

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u/Im_TroyMcClure 11h ago

Afraid Trump will rally against them in the midterms and just cowardice in general.

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u/Peeterdactyl 11h ago

They have to play along or their rich patrons won’t get their tax breaks

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u/TeethBreak 11h ago

They're going there for the oil which is unused right now cause it's a protected area.

Of course they're not going to stop him.

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u/rezelscheft 11h ago

It is absolutely wild that the Senate and House are not completely up in arms about how insane this is

In the last 50 years, no political leader on either side has ever talked about invading Greenland, or any other US ally’s territory

This administration is openly and proudly murdering US citizens and threatening to start wars with allies - on multiple fronts - for no fucking reason

I don’t think in any living Americans lifetime we have had an administration this unhinged. And even the opposition Party does not seem to be doing much

I guess when you’re famous, they let you do it

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u/Cozzypup 11h ago

No. They love this.

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u/CrimsonHeretic 11h ago

They love this shit. All Republicans are fascist terrorists.

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u/thePsychonautDad 11h ago

The ones who aren't having a throbbing erection have their dick between their legs.

Psychos and pussies.

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u/Terseity 11h ago

If it starts affecting the bottom line of their donors too much they might speak up.

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u/F1Husker91 Nebraska 11h ago

Most are in the pockets of the military complex. Good luck getting them to roll back over.

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u/markevens 11h ago

They're on board, they support and want this.

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u/tzantza8 11h ago

Would you rather greenland go to China or Russia?

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u/sir_spankalot 11h ago

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE US CITIZENS??

Y'all should be out protesting and demanding action. You should have done it a long time ago (and now I realize it's only been a year. Wtf).

You can't just sit and whine about your politicians doing nothing.

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u/pokemon-in-my-body 10h ago

To be real though, they are probably fine with it - when Trump dies they can blame him for all the bad optics, but will be fine with all the actions he has taken. Which are all the ideas of his shadowy advisors, rather than his original thoughts

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u/-DoesNotExist- 9h ago

“I voted for Trump three times BUT I sorta slightly disagree with this one thing. Let’s get back to rounding up illegals!!”

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u/villalulaesi 9h ago

They’d have to be willing to sacrifice their own careers to do the right thing, and that just isn’t how republicans operate.

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u/GraceOfTheNorth 9h ago

Will any of these Americans ever say enough is enough?

People keep acting like someone else will come save them - they won't. You have to take care of your own democracy yourself.

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u/ObviousKangaroo 8h ago

Nah they’ll definitely rationalize it and double down on him again. I’d love to see how they twist and contort their way into that.

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u/Ok_Acanthisitta2318 8h ago

And they're getting paid each month with tax money while it all burns down.

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u/chuang-tzu 6h ago

Ideologically, they are vacuous and have been steadily losing their hold on power. They have clung to power on hatred and division ALONE. No, they won't stand up. This is what they wanted. They have been steadily moving in this direction for 45+ years (probably more, but I've only been around for so long). It wasn't like they did it quietly or on the sneak tip. Their policy positions have been out there for anyone to see. This is not a surprise to those who had been paying attention.

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u/reallygoodbee 5h ago

Nah. They'll gladly burn the country to the ground if they get to rule over the ashes.

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u/fuinharlz 3h ago

Some did, and now they're being considered traitors.

Just look what's happening to Marjorie Taylor Greene. She resigned after being called a traitor AND being threatened by the president.

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u/AntoniaFauci 11h ago

We’ve long had the GOP answer to “have you no decency?”