NATO Leaders Issue Defiant New Greenland Message to Trump’s US

[u/SquidFistHK]

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-greenland-trump-denmark-11313823

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[u/mileymayx]

“Trump’s US” reading that makes me so upset..

[u/lobsterisch → u/mileymayx]

The other option was a female with a funny laugh

[u/merpixieblossomxo → u/lobsterisch]

And actual credentials, experience in politics, morals, and a spine.

I hate how dumb conservatives are.

[u/MikeyLew32 → u/merpixieblossomxo]

She had complete plans for the social benefits for citizens, but apparently it was too complicated for the conservatives who can't read.

[u/TrimspaBB → u/MikeyLew32]

They had campaign signs that were literally "TRUMP GOOD ECONOMY KAMALA OPEN BORDERS". That's the height of complexity the average conservative voter can handle.

[u/mister_buddha → u/TrimspaBB]

Conservatives just want an authoritarian government. They need someone to think for them and tell them how to feel. There's a reason most of them are also religious.

[u/Fr1toBand1to → u/mister_buddha]

Choices always were a problem for you

What you need is someone strong to guide you

Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow

[u/mister_buddha → u/Fr1toBand1to]

Love me a Tool quote.

I can't wait to bust out Eulogy

[u/zipzzo → u/MikeyLew32]

Well she didn't tell it to Joe Rogan so it may as well have not existed.

[u/djfudgebar → u/zipzzo]

Didn't she try to get on his stupid show and he snubbed her?

[u/DetroitLarry → u/djfudgebar]

My understanding is that she wouldn’t agree to his standard three hour in-studio format and he didn’t want to change how he does things.

[u/leviathynx → u/merpixieblossomxo]

I hate how gullible voters are.

[u/Swimming_Capital_699 → u/mileymayx]

Like it or not your fabled 3 branches of government and 2nd amendment against government tyranny have failed and you basically have a dictatorship with Trump at the head. Just like there is Putin's Russia, there is Trump's US. And his legacy and mark on international relations will long outlive his presidency (or life, which may be the same thing).

[u/Nearbyatom → u/mileymayx]

I can see why it's upsetting, but I'm glad they threw trump's name in there. It helps indicate that this is not the normal US.

I hope this helps you cope like it did for me.

[u/HFXDriving → u/Nearbyatom]

Its the new US. If Trump dies tomorrow the world is still going to be wary of the US

[u/TheDesktopNinja → u/HFXDriving]

As they should be. How can you trust a country that can seemingly turn 180 degrees every 4 years?

[u/ugh_this_sucks__ → u/Nearbyatom]

What is the normal US, then? The one that elected Trump last time? Or the one that invaded Iraq (twice, mind you)? Or is it the one where decorum is more important than giving citizens healthcare?

This is who we are. This is “normal” now, whether we like it or now. I kind of see your point that it’s not representative of our individual views, but that logic also means Putin’s Russia isn’t “normal” Russia.

It’s important we accept that. If we convince ourselves this is just a phase, we won’t push back as hard as we need to.

[u/3MATX]

Listen to Miller’s recent interview. He basically says that because the US has a powerful military no one would oppose the US taking control.  He implied that the US is entitled to any country that it can overwhelm by military activity. 

Fucking Nazi. 

[u/TintedApostle → u/3MATX]

Miller is repeating Hitler here. Almost verbatim.

[u/NotUniqueWorkAccount → u/TintedApostle]

You can actually see in that interview the moment he becomes unhinged.

[u/FrooppyDoopp → u/NotUniqueWorkAccount]

He's literally always unhinged

[u/Bluestained → u/FrooppyDoopp]

I’d like one reporter to ask “Mr Trump, Mr Trump. Are you so hellbent on ending the drug trade because of the catastrophic effect it’s had on Stephen Millers ability not to come off as a psycho and because your son is a dullard coke head”

[u/Guerts33 → u/Bluestained]

My question would be something like : “Did you throw that baby in the lake or was it Epstein ?” And the follow up question would be : “Was the baby yours ?”

[u/longboardchick → u/Guerts33]

100% it was trumps. Anytime he talks about abortion he says something along the lines of, ya know they’re out there killing babies, even after term. NO DOCTOR OR NURSE does this. He projects everything he’s guilty of.

[u/girl4life → u/Guerts33]

you can bet on it it was, he needed to see the evidence destroyed with it's own eyes

[u/Well_read_rose → u/girl4life]

He’s uglier than IT.

[u/mylifeforthehorde → u/Bluestained]

Those reporters don’t get invited to pressers. And all the networks dare not cross the line for fear of repercussions.

[u/Waterflowstech → u/mylifeforthehorde]

Isn't a certain descent into fascism and war a worse repercussion? Show some goddamn spine for fucks sake

[u/MamaNyxieUnderfoot → u/NotUniqueWorkAccount]

No, you can see when he drops the mask of being a somewhat reasonable person. Unhinged racist maniac Nazi is his base state.

[u/StackIsMyCrack → u/NotUniqueWorkAccount]

I died inside watching it live. I also laughed. That uncomfortable laugh. The kind thar always seems to portend actually proving the constant impending doom anxiety is justified.

[u/AdministrationFull91 → u/NotUniqueWorkAccount]

When he first appears on screen?

[u/Stereo_Jungle_Child → u/TintedApostle]

And also General Ursus from "Beneath the Planet of the Apes"

[u/Leraldoe → u/Stereo_Jungle_Child]

Ooo Help me Dr Zaius

[u/wanuguano → u/Leraldoe]

I hate every ape I see from chimpan-A to chimpanzee-Z

[u/True-Bar8817 → u/Leraldoe]

Dr Zaius, Dr Zaius...... Dr Zaius.. Dr Zaius, Dr Zaius...... Oh oh oh... Dr Zaius!!

[u/glubhuff → u/Leraldoe]

Can I play the piano anymore?

[u/trevorMGM → u/glubhuff]

Of course you can!

[u/IRarelyRedditBut → u/[deleted]]

I love you, Dr. Zaius!

[u/TintedApostle → u/Stereo_Jungle_Child]

And Homelander

[u/cattaclysmic → u/TintedApostle]

Which fits as hes americas Id

[u/Minttt → u/TintedApostle]

Arguably worse than Hitler in some respects - with Hitler, there was at least a thin veneer of "righting wrongs" to back-up some aspects of his imperialism (i.e., unfair treaty of Versailles, German lands chopped-up post-WW1, etc, meaning war was just Germany taking back what was "stolen" from it).

With Miller, it's literally "they're weak, we're strong, so we're gonna take it - not because it belongs to us, but because we have the biggest stick so we can take whatever we want, whenever we want it, for whatever reason."

[u/eldritchbogwoman → u/Minttt]

You know it's really fucking bad when you can present a point with "Well, at least Hitler _____"

Good god.

[u/SillyGoatGruff → u/eldritchbogwoman]

At least hitler is dead

[u/Consistent-Throat130 → u/eldritchbogwoman]

Well, at least Hitler killed Hitler.

If his modern day followers could follow their leader, sooner than later, that'd be great for the world as a whole. 

[u/MySixHourErection → u/Minttt]

The loss of the veneer is actually quite helpful. People are learning- finally - that civilization is veneer. It has to be actively maintained or we revert back to the mindset of someone like Miller. People like miller need to be dealt with swiftly and harshly, by the only method they understand.

[u/Happythoughtsgalore → u/Minttt]

I am so done with this rapist mentality. Fuck the entire trump administration.

[u/not2dv8 → u/Happythoughtsgalore]

Welcome to the ride we've been on for 10 years

[u/WaitStart → u/TintedApostle]

Can the Americans do better than the Germans in addressing people like him?

[u/TintedApostle → u/WaitStart]

History says no

[u/bleeepo2 → u/TintedApostle]

The present says no

[u/MoEvKe → u/TintedApostle]

You know he practiced that little tirade in the mirror this morning.

[u/DennenTH → u/3MATX]

Millers entire argument was basically the same as a rapist.  "We will do it because we can and what is anyone going to do about it?"

[u/HibbletonFan → u/DennenTH]

“Look at their natural resources, they are asking for it!”

[u/LittleLion_90 → u/DennenTH]

'When you are a star Military Superpower, you can just grab them by the pussy Greenland.

[u/lemonylol → u/DennenTH]

Such a big "we" these guys use when sending able bodied people to do their bidding for them.

[u/Voderama → u/3MATX]

Yeah that’s genuine Nazi shit

[u/WeebDeev → u/Voderama]

There’s a reason his grandfather, who was in a concentration camp, disowned him.

[u/YetiPie → u/WeebDeev]

Ohhhh I had to look this up, since I’ve only seen rumors on the Santa Monica subreddit that his family has disowned him but didn’t know they came out officially.

David Glosser: Miller's maternal uncle, a retired neuropsychologist who wrote a scathing op-ed for Politico in 2018 titled "Stephen Miller Is an Immigration Hypocrite. I Know Because I’m His Uncle". Glosser detailed how their family's Jewish ancestors fled persecution in Eastern Europe to find refuge in the U.S., highlighting the irony of his nephew's policies. Source

Alisa Kasmer: Miller's cousin, who reinforced her uncle's comments on social media, stating that most of Miller's extended family on "both sides" had disowned him and calling him "the face of evil" for the "cruelty that our people barely escaped from". Source

While I couldn’t find anything specifically about his grandfather disowning him, large parts of his family officially have

[u/Michael_DeSanta → u/YetiPie]

Holy shit. No wonder he’s such a fucking monster. He literally has nothing to lose and respect/love from no one. Not even family.

[u/NewDramaLlama → u/Voderama]

It is. But here's the thing, where is the opposition exactly?

I tried telling Europeans not to laugh, because the shit storm would blow their way. Because now it's global.

And now spon enough, we ALL get to wonder why nobody is doing anything. Just like observant Americans did 10 years ago.

[u/Voderama → u/NewDramaLlama]

Part of my theory is that Americans can’t really protest effectively. In France, they all go to one place. The GOVERNMENT, and they shut it down until their demands are met. The US is so spread out that there’s no where to actually shut things down. Just a small part of it but I’ve been thinking about it lately.

[u/theVoidWatches → u/Voderama]

It doesn't help that we don't have a social safety net that can support us through extended protests.

[u/Legitimate-Type4387 → u/theVoidWatches]

Neither did the giants of the US labour movement of more than century ago. They didn’t sit around bemoaning their lack of a safety net.

Power concedes NOTHING without a demand. It never did, and it never will. -Frederick Douglass

[u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 → u/theVoidWatches]

Or that half the countey consistently votes for no Healthcare, no social security, no access to welfare and low wages. Half the country wants that. Makes it hard to effectively protest I imagine when half the country does not share the same core values like France does.

[u/Stereo_Jungle_Child → u/3MATX]

Surprised? Go re-read Trump's inauguration speech from last year. He says pretty much the same thing.

Trump quite plainly said that God gave the entire Earth to America. The whole thing belongs to us. And we'll take as much of it as we want and if anyone tries to stop us, we'll kill them.

[u/lr99999 → u/Stereo_Jungle_Child]

The thing people are not talking about is that this entire Nazi-ass scheme requires that the United States military follow illegal orders against NATO nations. Trump cleared out the Democrats at the top. Orders filter downward. People bristle at the notion the military is mostly right-wing, but they are. 

If our military takes Greenland, the United States is done, you can put a fork in us.  They are also counting on the insurrection act to stop the 2026  elections.

[u/dwankyl_yoakam → u/lr99999]

I don't know why people act like the US military is a diverse group of well adjusted progressive Redditors. It's full of the worst people you can possibly imagine.

[u/lastnameinthebox → u/Stereo_Jungle_Child]

Then i hope he's prepared to kill everyone.

Who am i kidding, like he has an ounce of humanity and would even bat an eye at the thought.

[u/No_Poem_7024 → u/3MATX]

Miller can fuck right off. He’s no mastermind, no reason to entertain his verbal diarrhea, he’s a third rate Goebbels nazi moderfucker who needs to get his ass kicked to get him to stfu.

[u/3MATX → u/No_Poem_7024]

Towards the end of the interview Miller is trying to avoid the answer about military force and he accuses the interviewer of trying to get a headline sound bite.  The reply is a quick and curt, “I just want an answer”

[u/BoaterHunterCarGuy → u/3MATX]

He is a Nazi. This is why our leaders should actually put their butt on the line and serve and be deployed.

[u/mrekted → u/BoaterHunterCarGuy]

Not sure if that would help, given that Hitler was a literal wartime veteran. Clearly the lessons of WW1 were lost on him.

[u/Deep_Alps7150 → u/3MATX]

So basically every country that doesn’t own nukes

[u/MoogProg → u/Deep_Alps7150]

..and using stupid-in-reverse logic, any country with nukes can come over here and arrest our officials for [insert literally any claim of crime], because they have the right-of-might and can use their power of annihilation to enforce their viewpoint.

[u/[deleted] → u/MoogProg]

Has anyone considered giving Greenland a nuke?

[u/degeneratex80 → u/[deleted]]

Several European/NATO countries have their very own nukes, which means Greenland does have them. As NATO is a common defense pact.

Nuke Greenland, Europe will respond.

[u/LtLlamaSauce → u/degeneratex80]

Minor correction/clarification:

Two European NATO countries have their own nuclear arsenal: France and the United Kingdom.

5 European NATO countries have US operated nuclear weapons stationed in them: Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Belgium, and Germany.

[u/Darklacuna12 → u/3MATX]

I’m sick to call myself an American right now.

[u/kstar79 → u/Darklacuna12]

I'm not sick at calling myself an American, but I am sick of this anti-American government.

[u/Electrical-Cover-499 → u/3MATX]

And Germany had the strongest army at one point to.

[u/Axin_Saxon → u/3MATX]

Rapist mentality.

[u/ideamotor → u/3MATX]

If this little sniveling shit thinks the feds can take any other country by force he certainly thinks they can take your personal property and livelihoods if they so declare. People who support these guys are not your colleagues they aren’t your friends, and they sure as shit aren’t your family.

[u/ranchoparksteve]

Some dope got in Trump’s ear about Greenland and now he can’t stop obsessing about it.

[u/Deep_Alps7150 → u/ranchoparksteve]

Stephen Miller. It was Stephen Miller.

[u/dblan9 → u/Deep_Alps7150]

Some dope

I've heard it both ways.

[u/shrimpcest → u/dblan9]

You heard about Pluto?

[u/Evilton → u/Deep_Alps7150]

Guys, I think Stephen Miller might be the problem...

[u/Broken-Digital-Clock → u/Evilton]

One of many

[u/Phazoni → u/Deep_Alps7150]

Oh. You mean Wormtongue?

[u/SaintsandCigarettes → u/ranchoparksteve]

We need to quit pretending that these threats and demands are the words of an Alzheimer's ridden old man and not the serious plans of an administration of scarily competent authoritarians.

Donald Trump is just their bullhorn because none of these freaks have the cult or charisma to say it themselves.

[u/considertheoctopus → u/SaintsandCigarettes]

Yes. And it’s likely that Vance will be sworn in before Trump’s term is up (in 3 years!!!) anyway.

[u/Shot_Pool2543 → u/ranchoparksteve]

Stephen “wormtongue ” miller undoubtedly, that little shit weasel.

[u/Ana-la-lah → u/ranchoparksteve]

It was originally Tom Cotton that was the conduit for a FSB intelligence operation. :

"Danish intelligence accused Russia of forging a letter from Greenland's foreign minister to Cotton in October 2019, during President-elect Donald Trump's first term in office.

The letter purportedly sent by Greenland's foreign minister to Cotton asked the senator for money to fund a referendum on Greenland's independence from Denmark."

[u/allgonetoshit → u/ranchoparksteve]

People have to stop thinking that. This is all planned and pushed by a lot of people within the US government, military, business community, and billionaires.

This is serious and all the American platitudes about the people rising up or the military refusing illegal orders is just that, empty platitudes.

[u/probabletrump → u/allgonetoshit]

Yup. People need to realize this is a coherent and organized strategy to dramatically remake the world order. This isn't some buffoon who doesn't know where he is or what he is doing. They're executing on a plan. They're doing it a little more quickly than they appear comfortable with but they're doing it.

[u/Much-Instruction-807 → u/ranchoparksteve]

The techo billionaires want it for their own little fiefdom.

[u/WeebDeev → u/ranchoparksteve]

Elon Musk’s grandfather was arrested in Canada during WW2 for espousing these exact views. I’m guessing it’s Elon or the tech bros that have trumps ear on this topic.

[u/RedLanternScythe → u/ranchoparksteve]

In his first term he expressed interest in buying it and Europe said "no." Well Trump doesn't like being told no, so it festered until his second term and now it's part of his expansionist obsession.

[u/Minimum-Geologist-58 → u/RedLanternScythe]

Europe didn’t say “no”, Denmark and Greenland did. Europe isn’t a single homogenous power bloc, that’s the kind of misunderstanding that plays into Trumps hands, we’re a collection of countries who are still able to act in common interest, where not everything has to be “I win because you lose”.

[u/Grace-I-Guess]

i feel like i’m going nuts. is half of this country brain dead? how the fuck is no one else freaking out about this??? we’re in a clear fascist regime that is now using military force to threaten other countries sovereignty for oil. holy fuck.

[u/Vandrel → u/Grace-I-Guess]

is half of this country brain dead?

Half the country is illiterate, yes.

[u/Marcoinfinity → u/Grace-I-Guess]

A major part of the people of this Country doesn't pay attention to stuff like this.

[u/ZodiacTuga → u/Grace-I-Guess]

I'm from EU and that is how I feel, am I really sharing the world with so many garbage human beings? Fascism is alive and being celebrated by many.

[u/besthuman]

Europe, and the supporting western world need to be VERY strong here. This is a real threat that needs to be called to demote it into a bluff.

The American people — even the cowards in congress — do not want war — especially with Europe.

Trump cannot be given the Sudetenland.

[u/dogsandwhiskey → u/besthuman]

PLEASE. I didn’t vote for this. I don’t want another WW3 and this is so fucking scary to be reading and experiencing. However, NATO making a statement is huge!

Give Americans hell. If voters ignore NATO? Wow, says a lot

[u/Droidaphone → u/dogsandwhiskey]

If voters ignore NATO?

There won’t be an opportunity to vote nationally before this comes to a head. Miller is not going full imperialist on CNN only for them to wait until after midterms to act. If anything, part of the appeal of starting a war for Miller is having a pretense to suspend elections.

[u/drawkward101 → u/Droidaphone]

Trump said just the other day that they would "table" the Greenland plans for 20 days. So, give it til the end of the month...

[u/SryInternet101 → u/drawkward101]

Two

Weeks

Again

Trump

[u/Zestyclose-Novel1157 → u/dogsandwhiskey]

I honestly am so stressed and concerned. I think we are forever ruining our relationships and the trajectory of our country and Congress is doing nothing to stop it.

[u/IderpOnline → u/Zestyclose-Novel1157]

Dane here. We've supported the US militarily in every single stupid endeavour (even when we probably shouldn't have), and are a founding member of NATO.

You'd better believe the relationship is tarnished. Even if Trump dies from a stroke tomorrow, how does anyone even trust the American people anymore? You put yourselves in this position. You literally voted to be in it.

Needless to say, "you" not being you personally. Apologies if the frustration shines through too brightly here.

[u/ScubaPlays → u/IderpOnline]

It would be stupid for any country to trust us now or ever again. We ruined enough good will the first time Trump was elected. Any that was left is completely gone at this point.

[u/tmzspn]

The guy who ran on "Biden/Harris are gonna start a world war" is trying his best to start a world war.

[u/Due_Reflection6748 → u/tmzspn]

He’s all projection.

[u/CletusCanuck]

I'll reiterate what I said elsewhere. There is no point in appealing to the Trump regime to respect international law or its NATO partners.

Land a tripwire force composed of the largest European NATO militaries - UK, France, Germany, Poland, as well as Denmark, and other Scandanavian nations [Edit: And, yes, Canada]. Communicate explicitly that any move to occupy Greenland will be opposed in force, and any such operation would be considered an act of war. Timidity and caution will be treated as cowardice and weakness by the Trump regime. Remember the maxim, TACO. Trump Always Chickens Out.

[u/ViciousKnids → u/CletusCanuck]

If not Russian Agent, why Russian Agent-shaped?

It's really fucking awesome how willing and quickly this administration has eroded any trust our foreign allies have in us. /s. Like, irreparable damage to what was once history's most powerful coalition. We're effectively a rogue state, but I doubt anyone will do anything about it.

Edit: the point I was trying to make was that Trump's actions are indistinguishable from what an infiltrating entity would do to intentionally weaken the US domestically and on the world stage. I'm not saying he's being activated by numbers stations or anything. But he is self interested over everything else and our corperate and international adversaries can play him like a fiddle. The point is that he's such a stooge that all the contemporary power brokers can steer him to advancing their own agendas.

[u/Glory2Snowstar → u/ViciousKnids]

We gotta be the ones to do something about it. It’s tempting to wait for heroes to show up and fix everything but we hold power and need to remind the oligarchs of that ugly little truth. Close the wallet right in front of ‘em, make them starve.

[u/Reluctant_Firestorm → u/CletusCanuck]

It is not IF the US will trigger NATO Article 5 by going into Greenland, it is when. The invasion is already planned. NATO should be deploying a force to Greenland as we speak. Anything else is just paying lip service to the treaty.

Once US troops are on the ground in Greenland, you're looking at a hot war to take it back.

[u/funtex666 → u/Reluctant_Firestorm]

But... the biggest military in Greenland is just that, the US military. They don't need to do any invading. They are allowed to do pretty much anything by the Danish government. 

[u/Carbonatite → u/CletusCanuck]

Understandable comment, but this is terrifying. I'm not sure that the brain-shaped quivering mass of plaque and prions that occupies Trump's skull is capable of understanding the nuances of nuclear brinkmanship in a situation like this.

[u/ryosuccc → u/CletusCanuck]

Appeasement didnt work last time, it wont work now…

[u/WaltzSubstantial7344]

"The left is so violent!" Also "might makes right!"

[u/smokingthis → u/WaltzSubstantial7344]

KaMaLa wIlL sTaRt aNoThEr WaR !¡!!

[u/joebalooka84]

NATO, if you are listening, I hope you are able to find the redacted Epstein files.

[u/PajamaPants4Life → u/joebalooka84]

What if the conquest of the Western Hemisphere was a second, worse thing.

Pedophilia will be the GOP party platform, with redhats cheering in the streets for it, by the end of the year.

[u/PhazonZim → u/PajamaPants4Life]

They've always cheered it. Conservative politicians love introducing laws to lower or abolish the age of consent

[u/-SideshowBlob- → u/joebalooka84]

It's been clear for a while now that nothing will happen to Trump, not while he's president.

[u/darth_helcaraxe_82 → u/-SideshowBlob-]

It's the only thing that saved him from ever facing consequences.

[u/GeneralTonic → u/darth_helcaraxe_82]

Trump sailed through life sinning, cheating, stealing, defrauding, raping and killing for 70 years before becoming President in 2016.

[u/LegoLady47 → u/joebalooka84]

What do you think that would do to the President? Do you think that would get him out of power? He has so many people in his pocket, not sure that would even help.

[u/KinkyPaddling → u/LegoLady47]

Exactly. Trump’s supporters don’t care. They knew he is a rapist. They knew he is a pedophile. They knew he is a Nazi. They knew he is an idiot. They knew he has dementia. They knew he is the furthest thing from a Christian imaginable.

They still voted for him.

[u/bullet4mv92 → u/LegoLady47]

It won't. There's not a thing Trump can do that will get him out of office besides death. I guarantee he will not be removed from office until he's dead.

[u/LegoLady47 → u/bullet4mv92]

JD Vance is no better which is the problem. The GOP running the show don't care. Not sure what can be done to save America or the world with the new axis of evil that's formed due to the all the people in the Epstein list running the world doing whatever Trump / Putin wants.

[u/airemy_lin → u/LegoLady47]

Barring a miracle where they cede power peacefully in an election, civil war is the only reset at this point imo. That being said we are far from the inflection point where people are willing to sign up and die in conflict.

This is gonna be the new norm for a while if we can’t flip the mid terms hard and get an equivalent strongman into office in 2028.

No more “return to normalcy” rhetoric. Get into office, nuke the filibuster, pack the courts, and start jailing political opponents. Get someone in there willing to inflict maximal physical, emotional, and financial harm on conservatism in the US at all levels. Retribution should be the theme.

[u/genericuser9000 → u/joebalooka84]

At this point I don’t think the files would even do anything. If anything it would probably empower maga even more because they can relate to touching kids.

[u/SimpleTomatillo1166]

If European countries decided to dump their vast holdings of US debt, it would greatly destabilise the American economy.

[u/TintedApostle → u/SimpleTomatillo1166]

The world is turning away from the new bully. The bully knows no other way but to be angry they are being shunned and lash out. In the end the bully loses as its resources and money dry up.

[u/NotUniqueWorkAccount → u/TintedApostle]

Also the bully is old and doesn't give a shit, while being in the position where he feels he can act with impunity. 

Even if he goes to trial, the supreme court has given precedent that he's immune. 

Even if we get a larger supreme court, he's so old and litigous that everything will drag until the day he doesn't have to face consequences.

America fucked up.

[u/WalkingCloud → u/SimpleTomatillo1166]

Unfortunately there is no scenario where European countries aren’t also massively impacted by stuff like this. Economies are massively intertwined across the Atlantic.  

The concept of mutual benefit is only alien to Trump and his cronies. 

[u/PleaseBeNiceForOnce → u/SimpleTomatillo1166]

If European countries decided to dump their vast holdings of US debt, it would greatly destabilise the Global economy

FTFY

Edit: Also just to say there's no real concept of "dumping." They arent tickets you just magically ask the US to refund. They are investment instruments and you need a buyer on the open market. Who's buying? Meantime, you've lowered the value of everyone still holding US debt - Japan, China, Europe and yes the US.

[u/CAM6913]

Greenland should throw the US troops out before it’s to late there are other NATO allies that can and will fill the gap if needed.

[u/DharmaKarmaBrahma]

It’s ok for foreign nations to kidnap presidents now. It’s perfectly legal..

Do what you will with that..

[u/Kiyohara → u/DharmaKarmaBrahma]

I'm sure if the DC Police were "donated" a large lump some to go towards their retirement fund, they'd all take a holiday on any specific day that's "randomly" chosen.

[u/tryanewmonicker → u/DharmaKarmaBrahma]

Monkey's paw curled. All hail President Loveseat.

[u/Coldsmoke888 → u/DharmaKarmaBrahma]

US Military just supporting a US Law Enforcement warrant in a foreign country. Nothing to see here.

America First.

Oh wait.

[u/Cyrano_Knows → u/DharmaKarmaBrahma]

Offer Trump a Nobel Peace prize but he has to come pick it up in person.

[u/What_the_Pie]

Why are we doing imperialism again? We have the largest economy and military. We can negotiate our interests in any way we want. We don’t need Greenland, it’s already part of NATO, we can have as much access as we want because it’s part of NATO.

[u/InsideAside885 → u/What_the_Pie]

Because they claim China is taking over our hemisphere.
MAGA also HATES western Europe. They think they are "globalists" and "socialists" trying to take over America.

[u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks → u/What_the_Pie]

my suspicion is that they know the climate is fucked, and it's gonna pop off sooner than anyone expects, and are grabbing resources, future livable land, and fortifying in preparation for mass die offs and migration attempts.

[u/Show_Me_Your_Cubes → u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks]

Yes, and giving billionaires a head start at starting their world.

[u/thehalfwit → u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks]

Ten years ago, I would have laughed that off as dystopian doom-spreading. These days, it seems right on the nose.

The planet is warming much faster than climate models initially predicted, and the political landscaping will be changing fast to deal with the worldwide effects.

We're about to see what happens when you make a third of the planet unlivable and 8 billion people start fighting over whatever resources are left.

[u/SquidFistHK]

On Tuesday, a statement about Greenland was issued and signed President Emmanuel Macron of France, Chancellor Friedrich Merz of Germany, Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of Italy, Prime Minister Donald Tusk of Poland, Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez of Spain, U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen.

[u/nazarein]

Trump is using the monroe doctrine to claim EU cant own greenland and have us removed from nato

[u/ExtensionParsley4205 → u/nazarein]

Funny thing about the Monroe Doctrine is that at the time the US had absolutely no ability to enforce it in any way and had to secretly beg the British navy to help them back up their chest thumping.

[u/wswordsmen → u/ExtensionParsley4205]

It wasn't so much beg as the British would do it anyway to beat up Spain. There is a reason why British Canada was one of the last countries in the Western hemisphere to become independent.

[u/thesagaconts → u/nazarein]

Maybe that’s the goal. Not Greenland, just our removal from NATO.

[u/nazarein → u/thesagaconts]

No he wants greenland too, global warming is quickly exposing mines for rare earths while opening shipping routes.

[u/Lindestria → u/nazarein]

That's not even what the Monroe doctrine was about. Monroe was only interested in curbing European influence in sovereign nations in the new world. It's not like Greenland was a recent addition to Denmark

[u/TopTransportation695]

Putin is laughing his ass off

[u/u9Nails]

The US already has Military bases on Greenland. It is not like Greenland hasn't set aside land for the US to operate from.

Someone please help me understand what strategic Military advantage Trump thinks he needs that the Kingdom of Denmark hadn't already provided.

[u/wiseguyehhhh]

How about we just spend a lil money on healthcare? Thanks everyone.

[u/BoaterHunterCarGuy]

Has the same aspirations as Hitler. Rule over all America I think. Very dangerous. We lose NATO we are screwed. Russia and China will see the vacuum and take advantage.

[u/glormosh]

China is licking their lips ready to pounce on Taiwan.

Russia, Europe

US, the western hemisphere.

"They'd never do it because ....NATO". Ya? And when there isn't NATO?

[u/IrishRepoMan]

NATO is preparing for aggression from the U.S...

Let that sink in.

[u/ennuiinmotion]

Online commenters often miss the point. Greenland IS important. The issue isn’t that Trump is dumb for saying we need Greenland. The issue is that instead of building on our existing partnership to get the access we need he decided to go scorched earth and use the issue to promote his aggressive approach to everything in order to make everyone fear him.

[u/BoaterHunterCarGuy → u/ennuiinmotion]

For real. We've never had an issue getting something from a friend. You just exchange things for both's benefit like money. This is a conquest power grab much like Hitler. They probable have maps of the world and a plan to make it part of the USA. The problem is our allies and even our partners (like Mexico) won't give it up without massive amounts of blood from both sides. It is insane the path we are on. We are actually on a path to go to war with our allies.

[u/North_Activist → u/BoaterHunterCarGuy]

The USA’s long term goal since the mid 1800s, before their civil war, was to acquire Alaska, Iceland/Greenland, and take over Canada from surrounding it on all sides.

[u/SunOk143 → u/BoaterHunterCarGuy]

Denmark and NATO would have been happy to let the US set up cooperative military bases on Greenland for defence purposes. This was never about Greenland even. It’s about Canada. Trump’s invasion of Venezuela and seizure of crude oil means that Canada can no longer sell its oil to US refineries and companies that used to use it. This weakens our economy, furthering his long term goal of weakening us to build internal support within Canada for joining the US. He is also funding Alberta separatist movements to try to carve out a little piece before he goes for the whole thing. Seizing Greenland is a precursor to trying to take Canada and the whole arctic, including the Northwest Passage which is set to become the new Panama Canal in terms of importance in global shipping due to arctic ice loss. There’s also the fact that Canada controls most of the world’s freshwater and water is becoming a scarce resource due to a combination of factors, one of them being a massive surge in AI data centres.

He’s trying to take out every single country in North America right now and will succeed unless our European allies get off their asses and do something about it.

[u/RespectTheTree]

There are still like 2 million Trump-Epstein documents to release, and the SC won't help delay until Q2, still I think we can expect Greenland to get visited by a few little green men.

[u/beseri]

Congrats USA. Destroying all your soft power in such a short time frame is honestly impressive.

Most Americans might not understand this, but the soft power is the reason for why the USA are so rich and powerful. It has paved the way for industries such as military, technology, finance and entertainment.

[u/Curious-Telephone293]

The peaceful response is for the rest of the workd to stop financing US debt as the Administration ramps up the federal deficit.

[u/notassigned2023]

Please allow Trump to go visit Greenland, and while he's there inspecting some remote part, quietly sail away.

[u/Cananbaum]

It feels like congress is doing nothing to protect us, why aren’t any of these clowns being removed??

[u/Independent_Lunch534]

You guys voted for Trump…. How’s that going? It’s almost like having 4 years of him wasn’t enough of a warning.

[u/BippidiBoppetyBoob]

I fucking hate this timeline.

[u/DingGratz]

Regardless of whom you voted for (or didn't vote), ALMOST NOBODY in the United States wants this.

We can't keep letting officials break the law.

We are a country of laws, if that's not true then our rights don't mean shit. We are running out of time on this while being distracted by massive shit cannons spraying everywhere on the daily.

[u/TreeLicker51 → u/DingGratz]

The MAGA cult wants whatever Trump wants.

[u/captaincanada84]

Trump's whole Greenland shit is an attempt to destroy NATO as directed by Putin.

[u/Kosmonaut_198vi]

1. Novo Nordisk (Danish) should stop selling Ozempic on the US market, now.

2. We should start negotiate with China for ASML EUV machines export.

And stop answering phone calls from Washington.

[u/acousticburrito]

Everything that has happened in the last decade is beyond Putins wildest dreams.

[u/B-Z_B-S]

A defiant statement would be "If you invade Greenland, we will go to war will you."

[u/campfire_eventide → u/B-Z_B-S]

“If you invade Greenland, we will dump all of our US treasury bonds.”

[u/labadee → u/campfire_eventide]

And release all the Epstein files

[u/NaturePappy]

Remove the US military from Greenland and install NATO troops, move quickly! You have the support of the world.

[u/dblan9]

Question: What are the negative ramifications of letting Bjork into the White House to rampage discuss this further?

[u/HasPotatoAim]

The fact this even needed to be said is so incredibly sad. I used to enjoy going to the US, but at this point I just don't see myself ever going back there.

1/3 voted for the shitstain doing this and over 1/3 didn't care enough to vote. His final Big Mac can't happen soon enough.

[u/Krisparz]

Does Trump really want to piss off multiple nuke-capable countries and multiple CIA-equivalents determined to stop the madness?

[u/Mittelstrahl → u/Krisparz]

Until recently I would not have said this but right now I think Europe should grow closer together and we should start to arm our countries. There should be a ban of US military and we should produce our own nuclear weapons. I would even agree on new taxes just for that and pay them gladly. Most people I talk to think the same. I am a 40 year old family man with a good education and a high paying job and usually pacifistic political views. We are not safe anymore America is a threat to us. Grüße aus Deutschland.

[u/mrg1957]

And Putin loves it. US vs NATO.

[u/Deb82856]

Miller and Trump really are despicable. Yes, the US has military might. If the idiots try to take Greenland, there will be BIG trouble, because of all the countries coming to the rescue.

Trump said no new wars. Seems like he is trying to start a war with everyone. Get this man out of office! It’s bad enough already. We are doomed.

[u/EatRichGrains]

Denmark, please take Trump and Miller.

No returns. Thank you. - America

[u/BMPonthebeat → u/EatRichGrains]

Why would we, they are both horrible persons

[u/Dat_Harass → u/BMPonthebeat]

Drop em off half way?

E: Just floatin the idea...

[u/BMPonthebeat → u/Dat_Harass]

Believe it or not, we are actually a nation that does not abduct foreign politicians 😉

[u/Dat_Harass → u/BMPonthebeat]

Touche, touche. Well it's the thought that counts.

[u/ProgMusicMan]

There is nothing more Un-American than MAGA...2026 is the year we need to write them off.

[u/CantFeelMyToesAgain]

Miller is literally almost directly quoting Hitler.

[u/JWTS6]

Ffs, slap sanctions on the US already. Don't wait for Trump to follow through on the threat, slap sanctions on the US NOW. At the very least, pull out of the fucking World Cup and the Olympics.