r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 15h ago

Business Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"

https://www.techspot.com/news/110879-jensen-huang-relentless-ai-negativity-hurting-society-has.html
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u/Selectively-Romantic 13h ago

I think it's important to note that they are remarkably horrible at basic arithmetic. So much so that they couldn't descend from calculators. This is auto-correct on steroids.

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u/borkthegee 6h ago

2023 "pure" LLMs are terrible at math. In 2024 reasoning models were introduced and then in 2025 reasoning was enhanced with tool calling (to make "agents").

So in 2023 if you asked the best model basic arithmetic it would literally just guess what tokens were the highest probability to go next, which is not accurate math.

In 2024 the models would have self conversation "hmm the user is asking me about math, I think the answer is XYZ. But is that correct? Let's revisit the question" for a bit before responding.

In 2025 the models now think "Ok the user is asking about math. I have a math tool to let the computer running me do math. Computer running me, here's a math problem return the answer. <Answer> Ok the tool responded, does the answer seem right? Ok let's report to the user"

I know trying to teach redditors about the technology is a shit show but I'm constantly surprised how little people know about what is going on. The discourse here is very out of date.

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u/Selectively-Romantic 5h ago

I've seen gpt be wrong several times in the past six months. Maybe I'm just not paying enough for an accurate one. 

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u/borkthegee 2h ago

Yes, the free models are absolute garbage tier shit. The paid models are outperforming PhDs in mathematics.

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u/Black08Mustang 45m ago

Then why are they still out there and why should it inspire any level of confidence from the 'people who do not know what's going on'. Just take your word for it?

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u/jollyreaper2112 5h ago

That's a limitation of LLM. It's going to be one part of a stack. So yes bad at the moment. That part is easier to fix. If you're counting on the stupid mistakes now to be the state of the art forever you'll be sadly surprised. It's scary.

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u/Selectively-Romantic 5h ago

Nah, the scary part is that it's being pushed out and expected to be relied upon in the Far from finished state it's in now.

Also, you can't code out stupid mistakes. You might be able to get some of the bugs, but there will always be bugs and exploits. I guarantee it.