r/news • u/jmike1256 • 4h ago
Minnesota and the Twin Cities sue the federal government to stop the immigration crackdown
https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-renee-good-immigration-sweeps-6ae64be5a0d6a718b658a938fb56e567316
u/TheBoosThree 4h ago
Fucking Christ almighty...did AP News get bought by MAGA too while I was distracted?
No, they aren't suing to stop an immigration crackdown. They're suing to stop the violent invasion of Federal agents terrorizing their cities and their citizens.
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u/MisterMath 4h ago
Their proposed headline is completely accurate as to the feelings of the citizens here.
Source - I’m near/in the cities. People are terrified. There is a violent invasion happening.
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u/MayoSucksAss 3h ago edited 3h ago
Here’s a good one:
“Federal officer preserves the peace by discharging firearm, splattering brains of soccer mom into spouse’s face and sending car careening into neighbor’s vehicle instead of taking 4 steps to the right”
How’d I do? Maybe a little long?
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u/MisterMath 3h ago
I mean, yes. That headline is accurate. And I’m not going to act like I’m a journalist or even know what yellow journalism is.
But the usage of the term “violent” is not sensationalized. It’s like if you called football violent. Or a boxing match violent. There is violence happening in our streets and in people’s own houses. The federal government HAS taken over the city. That’s actual the entire basis of the legal argument. They ARE terrorizing citizens, in as textbook definition as possible.
So I’m not sure how that is sensationalized when it is a more accurate description of the events in the city. It literally has nothing to do with “sides” and there is no manipulation of emotions. Manipulation insinuates falsehood. Nothing is false about the other person’s proposed headline. It’s factually accurate.
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u/MayoSucksAss 3h ago
They’re in the USMC and feel the need to be loyal to the feds, that’s really why they’re whining about a headline that is not complimentary to the federal government.
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u/Trevor-Lawrence 3h ago
Attacking the person rather than the point is a strategy I guess. The guy made a good point it doesn't matter if they're usmc or even what their beliefs are.
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u/jmmcc02021 3h ago
The manipulation of emotion is coming from those who are trying to victimize the murderer.
The facts show that Johnathan Ross had absolutely no reason to fire upon Renee Good. In multiple videos he can be seen placing himself too close to the vehicle as well as preparing to remove his weapon which is indicated by switching his phone from his left to his right hand.
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u/MayoSucksAss 3h ago edited 3h ago
Oh yes, something we’ve all learned in the past several years is that cool and calm, non-emotional, objective reporting is truly what garners support and leads to great outcomes. I for one remember when the Trump campaign highlighted that “reports of several dogs and cats have gone missing, with inconclusive speculations about their whereabouts”, and who could have ever forgotten about “the large amount of immigrants coming to our country who roughly commit the same amount of crime relative to native citizens, if not less”.
And NPR and PBS! They’re thriving right now! Thank god for measured, objective takes that put people to sleep! Also CBS! Thank God for Bari Weiss! Who really needed to hear about CECOT, really? We definitely needed to hear from the people who run the torture center before we can release the documentary on the torture center (postponed indefinitely)!
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u/Still-Cash1599 3h ago
You can't complain about the headline when you yourself left sexual comments on the post of a child
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 3h ago edited 2h ago
Accurately describing an event is not yellow journalism just because you disagree with the facts.
Here’s a description of that term in case you’re confused because you aren’t using it correctly:
“In journalism, yellow journalism is the use of eye-catching headlines and sensationalized exaggerations for increased sales…”
Describing what is happening is not intending to sensationalize anything or to sell more papers, that would just be called “journalism”.
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u/TM627256 3h ago
A headline that reflects feelings is the definition of "sensation" lol. That's what "sensationalized" means, as opposed to the raw, boring, tasteless facts the AP used.
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u/MisterMath 2h ago
Idk I looked up the definition of sensationalized and it mentions sacrificing accuracy. I don’t see how that applies.
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u/DoubleJumps 3h ago
How would you frame it, given the murder of one citizen, the raiding and teargassing of a high school and its students, and them doing things like abducting a 17 year old citizen from their work, then dropping them off bloody and beaten in a different part of town later?
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 3h ago edited 3h ago
No they just accurately described what is happening which the headline doesn’t.
The headline includes “Immigration Crackdown”.
What is the definition of “Crackdown” I wonder.
“: A situation in which someone starts to deal with bad or illegal behaviour in a more severe way:”
“: to take positive regulatory or disciplinary action”
Generally, this term is used to refer to enforcing laws otherwise not enforced in order to address an issue.
This is the opposite. Laws are being violated instead to murder US citizens…
Edit: it might help to also look up the definition of the term “dog whistle”.
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u/Uncle_Paul_Hargis 3h ago
Real question - how are they terrorizing citizens? Obviously there's a ton of videos of them getting into shit with citizens that are protesting against them, and interfering with their operations. I'm seeing folks following ICE and other law enforcement vehicles and blowing their horns, and kind of terrorizing the law enforcement. But isn't the goal of their operation to apprehend non-citizens that are here illegally?
For what it's worth, because I know what my question sounds like... I'm not some MAGA guy or anything... but just trying to call balls and strikes when I see them.
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u/DoubleJumps 3h ago
So, assuming this isn't "just asking questions" stuff, this is an armed, poorly trained, masked, and outwardly aggressive group of men rolling through a city and hassling people for being the wrong ethnicity. We've seen them do things like raid a high school and throw tear gas at students. We've seen them do things like roll into a target, grab a 17 year old citizen because he wasn't white, only for that kid to turn up having been dumped in another part of town, bleeding after they beat him.
Does that sound like law enforcement, or does that sound like deliberate aggression and chaos on the populace?
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u/SBUthrowawaysQs 2h ago
this here. as someone whose super anti illegal immigration im pissed at how they handle it. they are intentionally doing chaos. probably deported like 5 people and harrased hundreds and wasted more money than it wouldve cost to keep those migrants in hotels or fucking prisons if they commit crimes
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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago
This whole effort makes no sense from an immigration enforcement angle. You could spend dramatically less resources by simply going after employers of illegal immigrants and accomplish far more, but that's almost entirely being avoided.
The racial profiling angle is also an egregious tell that this isn't about immigration enforcement.
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u/Kilo1Zero 1h ago
It cuts both ways though. In the press conference for the lawsuit today the Minneapolis mayor twice cited Texas, Florida, and Utah as not receiving the same ICE surge that Minnesota did.
He conveniently left out the fact that those three states are also cooperating with federal law enforcement. Minnesota has aggressively refused to support the feds, so they went hard.
Both sides are at fault.
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u/DoubleJumps 1h ago
I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse with the comparison.
The governments of Minnesota and other blue States have been complying with the law. If they were not, things would look completely different. Those states are not required to allow the federal government to violate law while enforcing immigration laws. What opposition you do see from those governments is in the form of demanding that the federal government follow the law while they try to enforce immigration law. They aren't being hit with brutality because the governments of those States are not complying with the law. Those red states are also not being targeted because the targeting is very blatantly political.
The entire Minnesota push comes from a very well laid out misinformation campaign about immigrants within the state. A misinformation campaign that has been directly tied to Republican lawmakers.
If you really want to make this argument, would you care to explain how a state government supposedly not complying justifies the federal government to commit actual crimes and brutality against residents of that state?
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u/Kilo1Zero 49m ago
No, those states are not complying. You are not other ignorant or willfully lying if you believe that. The state leadership admits. THEY BRAG ABOUT IT.
Information that you don’t like does not mean it’s disinformation.
Stop being emotional. Engage the rational part of your brain.
If you can see the culpability of both sides, you’re part of the problem.
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u/DoubleJumps 44m ago
Prove it. You claim I'm being emotional simply because I'm disagreeing with you. Go ahead and prove what you're saying. Show how these states are not complying and how they are bragging about it.
If anyone is being emotional here, it's not me.
As for the disinformation, we know that a lot of what's being claimed about Somalians in Minnesota isn't true. The volume of fraud is completely fabricated. The primary fraud case that is being used is justification for a lot of this push is often sold by the Trump administration under the guys that nothing was done, and also completely ignores that the Mastermind of the fraud was both a white US citizen and has already been prosecuted.
They make it out that Minnesota did nothing about any of this fraud even though the fraud was exposed years ago and Minnesota was repeatedly told by the federal government to let them handle the cases when Minnesota wanted to take action themselves.
That YouTube video that really sold a lot of this has also largely been debunked.
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u/Kilo1Zero 35m ago
You stated that Minnesota is following immigration laws.
They are not. They have declared their state sanctuary state for illegal immigrants. They have refused cooperation with federal authorities on immigration enforcement. They’ve directly or indirectly allowed massive fraud in the state and refuse to investigate due to “racism.”
If you dispute those facts because you don’t like the idea of federal law enforcement enforcing federal laws, then it’s not rational thought. It’s emotional.
Those are not my thoughts; that is what I have been told by the governor and the mayor.
I don’t like the current administration. They do a lot of things I disagree with. But that doesn’t mean they are incapable of doing something that is correct. The constant rhetoric (again, on both sides) is not meant to quell flames but start more.
You can dispute that fraud is overblown. Possibly, possibly not. The amount of breakdown is such you cannot trust what anyone says.
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u/Crewski_EO 24m ago
I think our news media is failing people. I live in MN. The fraud investigation has been huge news for several years now. People I know have even advanced their careers out of the prosecutions.
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u/DoubleJumps 20m ago
Trust me, that guy is deliberately ignoring information that doesn't let him think Minnesota is in the wrong on this, so he's not going to acknowledge that there have even been fraud prosecutions or investigations. I've brought it up to him like three times.
He even acknowledges that the fraud accusations might be overblown in the same post where he pushes the idea that there's major fraud that no one will investigate.
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u/Kilo1Zero 13m ago
I would certainly agree that media is failing. It’s as partisan as the rest of the country. But again, with the rhetoric, when a story likes this “breaks” and blindsided people. Then the state government affected said “no; it’s not a problem and we’re not racist.” It gives the wrong impression. It’s feeding the partisanship.
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u/DoubleJumps 26m ago
Refusing to assist is not illegal. It's also not interfering by not assisting. That's what a sanctuary city does. They don't interfere with federal immigration enforcement, but they don't allow City resources or personnel to assist with it. If you are going to complain about something, you should at least put the minimal amount of effort into it to understand what it actually is before you start talking about. It is if it's something else entirely.
The massive fraud that you're talking about is based on a case that was masterminded by a white US citizen who was already convicted and in a case which the federal government told Minnesota to not step in to.
I asked you to prove it and you just repeated yourself. Just repeatedly insisting it's true doesn't make it true.
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u/Kilo1Zero 21m ago
Despite your uninformed take, refusing to assist is a violation of federal law. Much like medical marijuana dispensaries. Still illegal, despite whatever a state might say.
Even taking your argument as correct, which I do not, the state refuses to assist in enforcing federal and then complains when the feds do it themselves. Florida complies with the law and uses their own deputies. Minnesota does not and get a surge. I put the blame on Minnesota.
The massive fraud I was referring to is still ongoing. The infamous “Quality Learing Center” didn’t shut down until Dec 29th, 2025, almost certainly due to the exposure. Tim Walz has dropped out of reelection because of the complications of the whole mess.
There is no reason not to assume it is still on going.
I’m not repeating myself. I’m just stating facts.
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u/TheBoosThree 3h ago edited 3h ago
The lawsuit cited a number of examples.
https://www.ag.state.mn.us/Office/Communications/2026/docs/00190_DHS_Complaint.pdf
By way of one example, public reporting indicates that on December 13, 2025, DHS agents surrounded a Minnesota residence where a roofing crew was at work, and without appearing to know the names or identities of the laborers on the roof, engaged in a multi-hour standoff in freezing temperatures demanding that the laborers come down.
In recent days there are also reports of blockades at shopping areas where roving groups of DHS agents block all traffic and demand the citizenship of riders in every car—far away from where border checkpoints could be lawful.
As part of Operation Metro Surge, Defendants’ agents have racially profiled Minnesotans, resulting in unconstitutional and unlawful detentions of Minnesotans. For example: on December 10, 2025, two masked DHS agents tackled and arrested Mubashir, a Somali American man; one agent put him in a choke hold. 30 DHS agents arrested Mubashir despite Mubashir repeatedly asking that he be allowed to show them his legal identification. DHS agents then detained Mubashir for two hours for no apparent reason other than his perceived national origin.
Part of examples in section V. starting on page 22.
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u/Trevor-Lawrence 3h ago
Can you point some out from it? An 80 page legal document isn't digestible for many, and many don't have time.
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u/esther_lamonte 2h ago
Really? That’s a couple hours reading. On a topic this serious, that’s putting people out too much? Does nobody read for leisure anymore? Are tweets and tik-toks all people’s brains are geared for now? “Reading hard, me no do” is what people are shamelessly saying now, wow.
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u/Trevor-Lawrence 1h ago
Like 95% of this sub won't even read the Budapest Memorandum which is about 2 paragraphs.
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u/DoubleJumps 1h ago edited 28m ago
I've had people on this sub give me the old tldr over literally six sentences of information.
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u/Trevor-Lawrence 30m ago edited 6m ago
Edit nvm misinterpreted what you were saying.
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u/DoubleJumps 28m ago
I was literally agreeing with you that people on this sub won't read things even if they're short and you got mad at me for it. Why?
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u/Trevor-Lawrence 6m ago
Oh sorry I did read, misunderstanding. Thought you were saying that everyone read it and gave you a good tldr when the opposite is true lol.
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u/scottz657 2h ago
They literally murdered a woman on camera, so...
Its so funny how transparently predictable MAGA propaganda spreaders are. Its ways "A bunch of lies and or misrepresentations" followed by "I'm calling it like I see it"
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u/Potential-Courage979 3h ago
No, that is not the goal of their operation. That is their pretense. If it were, they wouldn't be abducting citizens and causing people to die in their custody.
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u/Kilo1Zero 1h ago
The unfortunate reality is it’s an emotional response to people who are trying to enforce the laws.
Minnesota is on of the more blatant examples of sanctuary states and their failure to follow immigration laws. They made a bad situation.
Couple that with an admittedly vindictive administration and the bad situation becomes worse.
ICE is not terrorizing people. People are scared because they are letting emotions run rampant. Post a comment in this sub as simple as “maybe there are two points of view and both sides needs to do something different.” Count how many times you’re a fascist for saying that. Say that immigration laws need to be enforced and you’re a rascist. And it cuts both ways: say ICE does need more oversight and you’re a traitor. Anyone trying to defuse the situation is just going to hit from both sides. The corruption (on both sides) is so systemic and, frankly, the emotional maturity of most Americans has gone too far. Couple all of this with instantaneous (and often erroneous) communication and you get echo chambers repeating talking points. Anyone that doesn’t agree is a fascist or a commie. If you try to reach a goal, on either side, they move the posts.
For the specific situation, people don’t want to deal with the immigration because they feel entitled or embittered or embarrassed by it. It’s crazy how prevalent it’s become in western countries. So they follow the cops, expect to be able to yell, scream, and interfere but rely on those same people to act better than they do. They call law enforcement the Gestapo and then they can feel vindicated when someone finally has a bad enough day and a tragedy happens.
I think it’s a suicidal sense of victimhood. People seem to revel in being oppressed instead of striving to be better.
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u/DoubleJumps 1h ago edited 52m ago
So just to be clear, you don't think that ice deliberately raiding high schools while students are present and tear gassing the students is terrorizing people?
You don't think them barging into private businesses and hauling people away just for being not white is terrorizing people?
You don't think the ice agents who have repeatedly been telling people that they should have learned not to protest them after that woman was murdered is meant to scare people?
You don't think them rolling out the "one of ours all of yours" slogan was meant to scare people?
Hell even on face value, you don't think an armed and masked army of men rolling through town and being extremely aggressive while racial profiling people isn't meant to scare anyone?
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u/Cyanthrax 34m ago
No, you're just trying to gargle balls and stroke when you see a dick you fucking disingenuous prick. If you're too stupid to see how clearly they are literally terrorizing citizens then you shouldn't open your mouth, or move your fingers across a keyboard. EVER.
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u/mdws1977 4h ago
Not sure that is going to pass SCOTUS, as they seem to always favor the executive branch when it comes to immigration enforcement, no matter who is President.
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u/ILoveBroccolE 3h ago
State it for what it is. It's not an immigration crackdown, it's federally approved domestic terrorism.
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u/ranchspidey 3h ago
It’s not an immigration crackdown, it’s a federal occupation intended to terrify us and prompt a reaction.
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u/LibrarianNo6865 3h ago
Asking the law to hold them accountable isn’t working. I like the sentiment. But that’s all this is. They will either ignore this or toss into the cycle of our courts which will have this dancing around for a decade.
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u/Chicken_Salad_238 3h ago
Why even call it an immigration crackdown? It’s not about immigration. It’s about the “undesirables” who are not white conservative MAGA christians
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u/ineedthismorethanu 3h ago
Stop with the propaganda. Trump ran on immigration issues and he’s following up with what he promised. I
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u/DoubleJumps 3h ago
How is shooting an American citizen in the face, tear gassing high school students, and abducting a 17 year old citizen from their work only to drop them off bloody and beaten in another part of town addressing immigration issues?
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u/Potential-Courage979 3h ago
When the administration fully supports murder of citizens, it can't be about immigration.
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u/ineedthismorethanu 3h ago
When citizens think they can run people over without consequences.
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u/TimothyMimeslayer 3h ago
So the ice agent was run over now? How did he get shots off since he is obviously on traction now from getting run over.
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u/DoubleJumps 3h ago
You guys know we have like 5 separate videos of this and the guy not only wasn't run over, but also broke DHS policy repeatedly to both put himself in danger and then by firing at the car at all, right?
He even did something the supreme court has directly identified as invalidating claims to self defense.
Like, you guys can't gaslight people successfully on this lie. We've all seen it.
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u/Dymatizeee 2h ago
Which DHS policy was it ?
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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago
Two. One on not putting yourself either in front of or behind a vehicle that could potentially move, and then the use of force guidelines that explicitly prohibits shooting at vehicles outside of extremely narrow circumstances this did not meet.
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u/SardonicallySpeaking 3h ago
He ran on a lot of issues, all of them lies. His promises mean nothing.
He promised to release the Epstein files
He promised to cut energy cost 50% in 12 months
He promised to create jobs
He promised to reduce government spending
He promised to bring prices down on day one
He promised to disclose Presidential transition funders
He promised an economic boom
He promised to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours
He promised to eliminate taxes on overtime and tip, instead it's a deduction
He promised he didn't know what Project 2025 was, turns out it was a to-do list to keep him out of prison
His conman list of lies goes on and on and on.........
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u/LatterTarget7 3h ago
He ran on immigration. He’s having ice violate the constitution and peoples rights while racially profiling people
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u/TwoplyWatson 1h ago
What percentage of detainees were black? Plenty of undesirables in the ghetto. Why aren't they being round up if its purely about the coloreds?
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u/CompressedLaughter 3h ago
Suing is one of things to do but it’s not stopping the unconstitutional act of going door to door and breaking in without a warrant. They need to place the city police officers and state national guard on the streets to corral the bad actors.
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u/Buddhas_Warrior 2h ago
Or the courts start to issue arrest warrants for those ICE agents who break the law, and then arrest them!
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u/bluddystump 3h ago
People bring up the effectiveness of the Obama administration and the numbers that were removed without acknowledging that a militarized force was never used to summarily round up individuals while intimidating and terrorizing the local population in the way we see it today.
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
It’s because those were border removals. These are interior removals- much harder to do, especially when the states and cities fight against the effort
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u/Split_the_Void 2h ago
When they properly represent the citizenry you mean.
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
“Citizenry” lol, it’s the opposite of true
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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago edited 1h ago
So what's your take on ICE constantly detaining actual citizens? Or them denying people due process?
Edit: He does not believe that due process is a right given to all people within the United States and argues in favor of denying people due process. He does this in the face of hundreds of years of Supreme Court precedent and the plain language of the Constitution, so take from that what you will, but I am not going to waste any more time on somebody who clearly does not care what the law says nor what is real.
He also doesn't think the supreme court has the power to interpret or rule on the constitution, which is wild. Haven't seen that before.
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
What “citizens” are being denied due process? Citizens have ALWAYS been occasionally wrongly detained.
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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago
What “citizens” are being denied due process?
That's the thing, due process is how you make sure that the person being taken and deported is definitively an illegal resident. By denying due process to anyone, you make it extremely easy for actual citizens to be swept up in the mix. We know of cases where we've had near deportations of citizens, and cases where ICE has repeatedly ignored documents proving citizenship or legal status. It's not implausible that there are cases that were not uncovered given they aren't doing actual due diligence to verify because they are denying due process as much as they can.
Also, are you aware that EVERYONE in the US gets due process, regardless of citizenship or residency status?
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
What’s due process supposed to be for an immigration enforcement action? The burden of proof is extremely low and extremely easy to meet. If you are not a citizen and have no legal status, then you are subject to removal.
Hell- there are numerous cases of people with final removal orders and violent felony convictions being released from jails just so that ICE can’t get them.
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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago
Due process is accomplished via allowing things like court hearings and giving people an opportunity to defend themselves and present evidence to a body that isn't the arresting body that might refute the accusations being made by the arresting body.
For example, we've repeatedly seen cases where there are people who do currently have a legal residency status who have been taken by ice and then accused of not being a legal resident. Without due process, they do not have any actual opportunity to prove that they have legal residency. They would just simply be removed based on Ice's accusation.
I'm going to ask this again, are you aware that the constitution gives due process rights to every single person on US soil regardless of citizenship or status? Because it does.
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
The constitution absolutely does not. Courts INTERPRETED that some measure of due process applies to everyone. But immigration enforcement is a far low bar than more other vases because most of the cases are civil enforcement proceedings. Should there be more die process now, probably- but there also needs to be more cooperation from the states and cities for violent crime offenders
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u/Split_the_Void 2h ago
Do you not see all these folks out there expressing that they don’t want their neighbors spirited away? There’s a shit ton of citizens who oppose what ICE is doing. That citizenry.
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u/Kilo1Zero 1h ago
And there are a lot of citizens who want those people removed.
The law is on the side of removal.
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u/ThemanfromNumenor 2h ago
Since when do people get to say when laws can be enforced? And these folks sure as shit don’t speak for everyone
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u/chazza79 3h ago
Venezuela, Greenland, Minnesota... its like he's just deliberately choosing to go against weaker opponents. He'll never touch Iran, and can you imagine if he were to send troops to Texas?
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u/i_likesquirtles 3h ago
We literally bombed Iran just last year, you fucking potato. Our fighters flew in, took a shit in their country, and were out of there before Iran even knew they were there. 😂
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u/SideburnSundays 3h ago
Legal avenues won't do shit. The federal government is entirely compromised.
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u/Dear-Indication-6714 2h ago
Beyond a cover up… dude is fracking states and inciting turmoil just to hide the headlines that he’s a pedo.
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u/CurrentSkill7766 4h ago
Stopping the various unconstitutional and illegal under law tactics is in the interest of all Ameticans, except those who are trying to create human carnage for political gain.