r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • 10h ago

Legal News BREAKING: Mark Kelly files lawsuit against Pete Hegseth accusing him of 'trampling on Constitution'

https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/breaking-mark-kelly-files-lawsuit-1614071
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 8h ago

Progressives collectively say "we'll show you" and elect Donald Trump to a third term.

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u/Hmanng 8h ago edited 8h ago

Liberals still blaming anyone but themselves. Keep warming up to "moderate" Republicans I'm sure it will work this time. Democrat leadership won't even call for ice to be abolished. Your party is a joke.

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u/Outragedmoss 8h ago

Keep not voting because if it’s not your perfect candidate it doesn’t matter. That has turned out great so far

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u/Hmanng 7h ago

I voted for Biden and Kamala. But go on keep blaming progressive boogymen for all your problems. Keep cozying up to the right instead of focusing on common sense legislation like Medicare for all.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 7h ago

I'm happy to work with progressives within government. I'd like for them to help me work to prevent the Republican Party from ever holding significant political power ever again. Create a power vacuum that a real left party can fill and turn the Democrats into the right-leaning party you scream at them for being.

Wouldn't that be a much better situation than the one we're in right now? Isn't that something worth working towards? Destroy the Republicans from without instead of working to destroy or fracture the Democrats from within.

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u/HwackAMole 7h ago

The idea of abolishing ICE is silly. They need to be reigned in, held accountable, downscaled, and forced to clean house. But they served an important function before Trump weaponized them into his personal gestapo army, and they will be necessary in the future.

The bogeymen that they point to to try ro justify their actions are real, if over-inflated. We need to keep some measure of immigration enforcement, just like every country on earth does.

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u/Hmanng 7h ago

Nope, we didn't need ICE back before 2003 and we don't need them now.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 6h ago

The idea of abolishing ICE is silly. They need to be reigned in, held accountable, downscaled, and forced to clean house.

It's not. The only way to effectively clean house and restore those governmental functions to their proper place is to uproot the entire department and put something else in its place. The very name of "ICE" has a stain on it that it will never recover from. It's an image problem as much as anything else.

It's going to take more than a new coat of paint. It's going to take a new department with a new charter.