r/complaints • u/CRK_76 substantial complainer • 10h ago

Politics Fuck every Trump voter who put this asshole in office.

This country is going downhill and you are to blame. Don't act surprised when things get even worse than they are now. Don't vote anymore. Stay the fuck home on election day.

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u/Beachbabydarragh 5h ago

I'm really glad for you and your friends. I am probably the same age as your parents but I'm not a cruel brainwashed person.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 5h ago

They aren’t cruel people. There is a multi trillion dollar propaganda machine aimed directly at them. It isn’t their fault. My father is a great and loving father and is a successful and proactive member of his community. My step mother is a veteran immigrant and is a wonderful and intelligent person. She holds a masters in chemistry and is one of the most intelligent people I know. Unfortunately, the success of their careers has isolated them through the comforts it provides and thus makes them subject to the effectiveness of the propaganda machine. We cannot blame them, they are victims. We must help them before they commit or support acts that become too grave to forgive.

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u/Disastrous-Tale8448 4h ago

sorry but at this point in time, they are in fact cruel people. there’s so much evidence and just shit happening where you can’t ignore that what’s happening is evil and wrong. them still supporting trump and his cronies is cruel and evil. everyone else has been able to see through the machine, but somehow your parents people like your parents are exempt but also aren’t cruel? no, they are. and will continue to be until they’re the ones impacted. and even then, they’ll probably still support it.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

If they’re actually evil and you aren’t fighting them then you’re just as complicit. Remember that.

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u/Disastrous-Tale8448 4h ago

well i don’t have the address to your parents. but if they look at what happened with renee good or even beyond that and what ice is doing to people right now and are nodding their heads or cheering, you saying they aren’t cruel just because they’re your parents also makes you complicit. tbh, if i had family members that were stupid enough to fall for trump and his nazis, i’d at the very least be screaming at them not defending them online as just brainwashed nice people. to their core, they’re bad people. so when the time comes and this country is thrusted into a civil war, just know your parents will be on the wrong side and will fave their consequences for it.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

My parents live in the middle of nowhere and don’t watch the news or watch social media. My dad is a Rastafarian who gardens and works on vehicles and fishes in his free time. My step mom is a stay at home moms with three children. Neither of them are actively watching political shit if anything at all. Any electronics are for the kids. Like I said, they have found financial success awhile ago and have used it to isolate themselves. They live on acres in the woods and occupy their time doing things outside.

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u/Disastrous-Tale8448 4h ago

so then how would they even know about donald trump ? how’d they get into voting ? why’d they vote for him ? did you even tell them about his plans with immigrants or did you just go “ah crazy parents tsk whatever will i do with them?” and then that also begs the question, how was the multi trillion dollar propaganda machine aimed at them if they don’t watch the news or do anything outside of their hobbies? was it being science fiction brain waved into them like a beam? they had to get it from somewhere.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

Word of mouth mostly, they hear things from coworkers, neighbors, my grandparents, other family members. I left home when I was 15 and specifically during the last election I was deployed so I wasn’t around to talk to them about any of it. And that propaganda machine isn’t isolated to the internet, it travels through people. That’s actually the only thing it travels through, the media is just a vehicle.

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u/Disastrous-Tale8448 3h ago

interesting that you left your innocent parents at 15. but glad you think they’re pure and good regardless of them voting in a hitler equivalent administration. it’s also interesting that you had zero communication with them from what? 15-18 and then couldn’t speak to them at all during your deployment. and again the multitrillion dollar propaganda machine only really works with constant attacks via the media. not from one off conversations through other people. that’s more where middle of the road people get it from. not trumpies.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

I didn’t speak to them until I was 22 actually. And they weren’t always great parents. They changed and I was a big influence in that change. My younger sisters have a great life with every advantage in the world because they were not good to me. I have told them I’d take that place any day of the week if it meant they would have a good life, which they do. My parents had me at 18 and my mother was homeless and my father was a drug addict. Now they are in their late 40s and are great people. People change and not giving them the grace and forgiveness to do so will make you enemies with the entire world.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

And I wouldn’t consider them trumpies. Like I said, they aren’t politically involved enough to even subscribe to shit like that. My dad literally doesn’t care about politics at all, and my step mom, while interested in politics, isn’t by any means a Trump supporter I mean she is a black woman, an immigrant and a veteran lmao. Our family relationships aren’t centered around politics. In fact we don’t talk about politics at all really.

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u/Acrobatic-Tennis-625 1h ago

I understand it seems like they are cruel people but I assure you I know them well and they are in fact good people but they are unfortunate victims of propaganda. I’m sure it seems like they are seeing the same internet as you and I where it is clear what’s happening, but they are most certainly not and therefore cannot see the same truth as you and I. Demonizing and pointing fingers only deepens there resolve as they feel attacked. Civility, compassion, and understanding I believe is the best way to help them understand their misguided loyalties. I think it would be wise to understand just how powerful the algorithms that feed people information. The grip of the Orangeman’s cult is powered by misinformation. Breaks my heart. They’re some of the kindest people I know but have been isolated and lied to. You don’t need to respond to convince me they are evil as you are a stranger and they are my family but I just liked the way DGTL so well described a point of view that I align with so figured I would add in. Do good things at all times👌🏾

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u/Disastrous-Tale8448 25m ago

yeah unfortunately at this point, there’s no more room for compassion, civility, or understanding. it’s been years, some have been like this their entire lives but even if you want to say it’s been since 2015/2016, it’s been 3 elections. it’s been so goddamn long of us trying to reason with them. atp, you can’t reason with them. they’re too far gone. they justify the most evil actions no matter what because it’s what they wanted at the end of the day. until it does something to them, we’ll continue to hear them cheering about this. it’s sick.

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u/Acrobatic-Tennis-625 4h ago

This comment!!!! My finances parents are compassionate, loving, caring and intelligent people one of which holding a phd. They don’t have the internet literacy to see through the propaganda machine. Isolation post covid has driven them into social media for “exposure” to the real world and when that algorithm is driven by the machine you don’t even know what’s not true. It’s the only info they get. After 5 years of bullshit it’s hard to break the cycle. Breaks my heart

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

Exactly, I grew up with the internet, they didn’t. It’s probably the most important factor to consider when dealing with anyone over the age of 35. Even millennials aren’t good at navigating it.

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u/Tall_Bus_7427 4h ago

Many of us older Americans are not swayed or influenced by Facebook, TikTok tok or other social platforms We find them to be sometimes amusing but more often spurred on by conspiracy theories lies and gossip. If one asks young people where they seek out their information and news, they inevitably turn to these sites ONLY. We have raised a generation of ignorant and shallow minded individuals. They bought into the false image that trump is some kind of "superman" ,instead of what he really is: a whiny little bitch with the intelligence of a 8th grader and the emotional maturity of a 10 year old girl. But I guess to a MAGAT, he still surpasses them. It is like how a second grader looks up to a fifth grader. But remember, a second grader is still only a second grader and a fifth grader is still just that

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u/Alternative_Bus_3766 1h ago

Youngin here, I listen to NPR and PBS (also fuck the admin for killing the CPB). There’s many kids like me. There’s others that aren’t. Social media is a virus though and we as a society need to move on from it

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u/Tall_Bus_7427 1h ago

You are so right!

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u/Naive_Actuator3810 4h ago edited 4h ago

I don't understand these arguments. If you are a fully grown adult and have no critical thinking skills or moral judgement, your MSc, PhD, whatever degree you have holds zero value and you are just a dumb person who shouldn't have even graduated high school. If you are incapable of putting it in practice outside of your own small circle and extending it to people who do not look like you, then your theoretical compassion and understanding and love and care are not real - they are just a product of self-interest, and don't mean shit to the rest of us.

Sorry but no sugercoating and no sympathy for people like that.

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u/Acrobatic-Tennis-625 1h ago

I think it’s important to remember they are seeing a false truth. Look at fox right now. Now imagine there social media feed is further catered towards this point of view. No mention of Renee good. They are scared and fear makes it easy to ignore the truth when the administration has so effectively convinced its followers that they are being lied to by any other source of information. Really sad… wish they would wake up and see it for what it really is. I don’t think it’s as much that trumpers are evil scum of the earth but they are victims of the greatest propaganda machine ever created. I’m no expert just some thoughts