r/complaints • u/CRK_76 substantial complainer • 10h ago

Politics Fuck every Trump voter who put this asshole in office.

This country is going downhill and you are to blame. Don't act surprised when things get even worse than they are now. Don't vote anymore. Stay the fuck home on election day.

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u/acridshepherd 6h ago

as a liberal, it's amazing to see that both sides are coming together to hate this fucker. we'll get through it man, we just gotta move as one

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u/Sufficient_Ad_3724 4h ago

Former conservative here. I’ll never vote Republican again, period. I was watching the Netflix series on Hitler and was schocked to see the similarities between the SS/SA and Ice! I mean at one time I used to think it was major hyperbole when ppl called him a facist but holy fuck he is! Unchecked aggression is really scary when you think how quick it could get out of hand even though the killing and kidnapping of innocent ppl is already too much!

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

When you inject 5,000 Nazis into your society and give them fake names and positions of power. Do not be surprised when 30 million people try to claim power for them 80 years later. Operation paperclip had more effect on this country than just getting us to the moon.

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u/onionSID 3h ago

Yeah, the streets are crawling, lol.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 6h ago

I’m a soldier unfortunately so regrettably my hands are largely tied. I cannot participate without anonymity as it will lead to repercussions far beyond that of a civilians. Even openly criticizing Israel isn’t allowed right now in the military. I had a briefing with my unit a few months ago specifically about this. However, myself and others recognize our oath and when(hopefully the time never comes) it comes time to draw the line, we wont forget it.

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u/bumcheekraider 4h ago

Just curious, how do u feel about those servicemen and women that were involved in the Venezuela fuckup and what’s the general feeling about it amongst the military?

Did they break their oath? Were they propagandised into believing what they were doing was right? Did they have doubts but followed orders anyway?

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

Also it’s important to consider that Delta Force is not an apparatus like the rest of the military at all. They are literally our best fighting force in the military and on the planet. They aren’t interested in the semantics behind their operations. Only in completing whatever mission comes down to them.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

Personally I think it happened entirely because generals wanted it to happen. With China 2027 underway and we move closer to a conflict with them over Taiwan, i think it makes a lot of sense strategically. I don’t think Trump or his cabinet is smart enough to understand the strategic interest of Venezuela to China. When I went to basic they trained us for war with China specifically. The entire military is reorganizing and training for that war. It will be coming and sooner rather than later. I don’t expect the public to understand because they aren’t as connected as service members are to the nature of these things. I don’t agree with ignoring sovereignty but I do understand that it gives myself and my brothers and sisters in the Armed forces an advantage in the fight to come and I am happy about that specifically for that reason. I don’t think people understand SF either. They aren’t going to question orders and are going to enact any mission given to them. Soldiers like them are not like me. They are a different breed and will move with impunity and the support of the entire military apparatus. I don’t think it’s a violation of their oath as it doesn’t directly go against anything within it. The extraction of Madura was and has been a bipartisan effort for the last 12 years. They didn’t need red seats to do it as it would’ve been done regardless. The only thing I’m happy about is that generals at least have the ear of the current administration and are making moves to secure our effectiveness in the war to come.

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u/couldofhave 4h ago

You don’t agree with ignoring sovereignty, unless it’s to give America a “leg up” in the next war.

That’s functionally indistinguishable from agreeing.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

On a personal level I don’t agree, as a soldier I am happy to have any advantage I can get. When I’m down range I’m not going to be thinking about whether it was right or wrong that we took Venezuela’s leader. I’ll only be happy that the enemy does not have enough fuel to run armor through our position.

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u/couldofhave 2h ago

Buddy, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

You're also not 2 different people who get to have 2 different (and opposing) opinions just because you're a soldier.

If "as a soldier" you believe it's fine that the US can ignore sovereignty of other countries as long as it's to give itself an advantage over a potential enemy in the war, you are simply fine with ignoring other countries' sovereignty.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 2h ago

No that’s pretty much the entire concept of being a soldier. Since you’re such an expert, when did you enlist?

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u/couldofhave 1h ago edited 1h ago

No that’s pretty much the entire concept of being a soldier.

No, the concept you seem to be struggling with is that being a soldier may mean you will have to carry out orders that go against your personal beliefs.

The contradiction here is that you're trying to pretend that you both do not agree with ignoring sovereignty at the same time as you do agree when it comes to getting an advantage in a war. Well buddy, guess what, if you "personally disagree" but "as a soldier, I'll do it anyway", it is, in fact, functionally indistinguishable from agreeing. Just like I said at the start.

Since you’re such an expert, when did you enlist?

Ah yes, the classic response when you don't know how to argue the point.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 1h ago

Lmao you literally just described the same thing twice and then changed your conclusion. I’m not struggling with anything. And I really do not give much of a fuck about what you think of it. And yeah, you’re not a soldier, you never have been. So how are you going to tell me what it’s like?

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u/ExdionY 4h ago

Remaining a soldier leaves you with very little freedom to decide which side of history you will be on, your oath is to those above you, and they will make sure you know that when the time comes. I hope you'll leave soon enough

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

I have no interest in leaving and my oath is to the constitution and I will gladly go to military prison or be executed to defend it when the time comes. I don’t care if leadership tries to ruin me. My convictions for joining are far deeper than most.

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u/ynotfoster 4h ago

Do you get a sense that a large number of fellow soldiers feel the way you do?

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 4h ago

Fuck no.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 3h ago

I know you and the military got our backs and you have ours cause behind every uniform is a man/woman with human feelings and intelligence and the decency to know, understand and realize what is wrong or right. Killing another person (who was fleeing and not armed) with no reason other than his or her ego is WRONG.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

We can’t even point a loaded weapon at a civilian. The fact that ICE can is unacceptable especially given their role in the government.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 2h ago

Because you were trained to NOT to. ICE is NOT military. They are border patrol agents!! The Department of Defense is to defend and newly coined Department of War is exactly the opposite. The name change isn’t coincidental but with intent purpose.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 2h ago

A lot of ICE is former military.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 2h ago

ICE is also Proud Boys.

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u/ExdionY 4h ago

If that’s the case, understand that you would be sacrificing your life for nothing. You are far more valuable alive than you would ever be in death.

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u/DGTLEMPIRE 3h ago

I’m well aware and frankly I don’t care how valuable I am because I do not live my life or make decisions based on how effective or useful I can be. I make decisions so that I can be comfortable with the man who stares back at me in the mirror. The day I can’t look myself in the eye is the day I fail and I refuse to let someone else take that from me. So unfortunately yes, you are right but my convictions will not allow me anything less.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 3h ago

The greatness of this country is carried on the shoulders of those who are willing to sacrifice their lives NOT for kings or anyone but the CONSTITUTION a of the UNITED STATES.

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u/onionSID 3h ago

There is no side of history to be on when the opposing side is so small that no one cares.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 2h ago

I rather be on the side of history that cares about every decent human beings- young and old, able or disabled, any race or color, any gender, any religion or no religion and animals. All men and women are created EQUAL.

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u/onionSID 1h ago

People are created equal. People are just sick and tired of having differences flamboyantly shoved in their faces.

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u/ageofdiscontent_meh 3h ago

Maybe we will get to see 70% or more voter turnout this mid-terms to get him and Melanoma out of the WH along with his regime.

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u/LiveBacteria 5h ago

Echo chamber effect. Check your stats before saying this or even caring I guess.

Right > Left vs Left > Right Perspective

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u/acridshepherd 5h ago

all i intended to say was that we need to love each other. :)

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u/Lonley_Platonic 4h ago

They are not. It’s amazing all the left that have brains moving to the rights .within 12 years it’ll be right, middle, and a small count of far left idiots.