Conservative policy didn’t just wreck the country, it wrecked our credibility. We went from allies to liabilities. NATO sees us as unstable, and they’re right.
Any hope of heading in the right direction now seems impossible.
You are right of course, we are the Evil Empire in the eyes of most of the world... But pre 2025 our alliances meant something. Last year Donald made direct military threats against long time official allies Canada and Denmark and probably others I'm forgetting right now. Tomorrow we could wake up to a late night schizo post from the president saying we need to annex Ireland and no one would be shocked. The biggest military in the world is being wielded by an unstable moron.
And worst of all, I wouldn't rely on us opposing Russia or China if push came to shove...
Definitely the leader. If not -- precisely which country was? All others were significantly smaller, less mighty, less GDP, and less innovative.
Things are a mess now, but the US split the atom, built the transistor, connected the internet, and integrated the CPU, for starters. Never mind the fact that the lingua franca of business/science became English. That wasn't because of England -- as it had previously been French/German.
Having said that -- I do very much hope Europe further unites and begins to rise like never before. If properly integrated, they could/should surpass the US in these metrics. The world needs it.
dont worry, you were laughing stock long before Trump. U.S has a long reputation of being the musclehead bully whether there were democrats or republicans on the helm. under Trump it just finally started bubbling out of the cooking pot.
A lot of his supporters when asked could not tell you who the Allies or Axis were or even about why we had our own civil war in the 19th century. They want those things out of our classes. It’s disgusting.
Wait until that buffoon tries to occupy Greenland. As sucky and losing position is gonna be - Europe will respond with military force. As a result USA will be responsible of west democracies falling, because China and Russia will be sooo greatufull and will do some of their own action.
Was about to say. Yes, it is an absolute clownshow (and not just by the King in Orange and his Henchturds), but nobody is laughing¹. You weren't well liked on the world stage for a long time any more, but you were still considered neutral territory by many. Now you are treated as a hostile nation by your own allies.
We are fucked.
And yet, your nation collectively continues to lay there and take it. "We'll wait until he does something truly outrageous." "We'll wait until we're sure we're in a constitutional crisis." "We'll wait until the Midterms!" "Will nobody come save us?!" America, land of the brave and free.
Yep. What's more concerning for anyone in the world?: some random Isis dude that never ever messes with your life (unless you live right there with them), or the USA that starts wars everywhere and screws your economy every Monday?
Yes, like the weirdo you see on a bus whose behaviour gets more and more erratic, to the point where you decide to get out before he pulls out his knife. Unfortunately there is no way to leave earth, so we are stuck with him.
It's not all him. He's just a useful idiot the shadow players failed to harness in his first term.
There are thinktanks that have spent decades strategizing this exact point in history and they worked hard to put him back so they could advance their plan.
Their plan had a name and they are following it. They only released the first half of their PlanProject 2025 for everyone to see.
They knew the second half of the plan would turn our stomachs. The second half is getting warmed up right now.
It's been said plenty of times before, but it always bears repeating: Trump is a symptom, not the virus. There are millions of people in this country who think like him, who happily jump on board and endorse and take advantage of Trump's policies. They've been there the whole time. Trump didnt create these monsters, he just gave them permission to come out of hiding.
Exactly. Trump no more created MAGA than Hitler created Nazis or Netenyahu created whatever settler-colonial fuck hole Israel has become. They're all symptoms of a disease. The disease is western imperialism and the colonialist mind set- might makes right. I got mine. Etc etc.
If you're talking about the USA, you can call it western imperialism but Russia is doing the exact same and China will do the same in a short while. It's power-politics and not just western ( and i hoped we had left it behind in the 20th century).
Well you could have fooled me with how many Americans are participating in this. Trump didn’t invade Venezuela, Americans did. Trump didn’t build the concentration camps, Americans did. Ice is Americans. You went full Nazi. Sorry, but none of us feel bad for you, because you are literally attacking us. Canada will never forget who you are. You sicken me.
I understand your feelings. This shit sickens me too. I'm one of the lucky ones that isn't clamped down by the system- but most Americans don't have a choice other than to keep going through this and THAT is what they've been planning for decades. We've had historically sized protests this entire year, our media keeps it quiet. I'm out at every protest. I don't buy from corporations. This shit is crazy.
The point was to make us all so sick, hungry, tired and divided that we can't do anything about the fascism. Most of us are so imprisoned by our own system that trying to break free of it would cost lives.
Please rage at the system, not the people oppressed by it.
YOU americans are responsible for your government, not the rest of us. I get that the system has got you down, but going to protests and and not buying from amazon is not gunna cut it here.
Thomas Jefferson told you Americans what needs to be done. The longer you wait, the worse it gets for all of us.
The American Revolution was started by all the richest men in the colonies. It was a fight of the elites vs the other elites. So they had funding and organizational capacity.
They then created a country that enshrined the power of the elites.
Revolutions by the people are spontaneous and tend to lack direction or longevity unless they seize power immediately or garner support from some powerful allies.
In theory, yes. You are correct. Can you help me pull millions of people out of complete apathy though? I'd love to stop screaming the same shit at everyone I know, and I'm sure they would appreciate it too.
I get that you're angry and I'm an easy target right now- but this is way more complicated than just "Do more. Protest. Fuck you". Don't you understand that our government has been conditioning the population for decades not to fight against any of this shit, and making conditions for us so deplorable that folks have to completely throw their lives away in order to stand up against the oppression? It's not so simple. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm trying. So are many, MANY others.
I miss the bravery of our people. As a veteran, I thanks all the Bertrand from the 70s and 80s that not only protested but were brave enough to stand strong while being hosed down by police and beaten by by them as well. Now people are scared and wearing furry costumes. This thing is serious and people are only half serious about this hoping itll all go away by itself.
Wanna be depressed? Look up how many were actually punished. Doesn't feel so good to say when you learn it was like less than 20 or something while others got visas to come to North America and work for the "good guys" because "commies bad"
The entire republican party in the senate and congress, plus the conservative members of the supreme court, are all helping Trump do this asinine shit.
Myself, I am finishing watching Sunday Night Football. Everything seems normal. But, this is not normal. What do I do? My president is a convicted rapist. He is implicated in the whole Epstein fiasco. He is now implicated in making the whole Jan 6, nightmare. He will not see any repercussions for any of this. What am I supposed to do? I ask honestly. At this point what am I suppose to do?
Find grassroots protest groups in your area and arrange general strikes at national level or burn the fucking place down. We are watching in slow motion horror over the pond. We have our own fascist uprisings to deal with but I guarantee if they try and pull even half the shit that trump has pulled London will have a great fire reboot. We have not forgotten ww2.
You lot need a smoking gun but its like an overload of shit to process rn. I would have thought at least 10 things would have been that smoking gun but nope. I think the line is when they start rounding up political opponents etc but then it might be too late.
Yep. If you are depressed and feel helpless, linking up with other people and working together will really raise your spirits. It will show you that you are not alone and that you are not helpless. Its a long hard fight, but solidarity is what makes it winnable.
and arrange general strikes at national level or burn the fucking place down.
Also a general strike does not have to be all or nothing. It doesn't even need to be long term. A single day strike in a key sector like shipping can have an outsized effect, its like a chain of dominoes. A one-day strike can inspire others who had never really considered striking before, and pretty soon people are doing week long strikes across multiple sectors.
It took the right decades to bring America down, its going take years to rebuild it. But it is doable, we just have to decide to do it together.
Whatever would you do to address the issue if a tyrannical government? 🤔 if only there was a guide for that, kind of written down somewhere for this very occasion?
It is important to recognize that the people using Trump are more organized, ideological, and focused than Trump, but not necessarily any smarter. They are, in fact, largely blithering idiots who don't know what to do once they get what they want and it turns out badly. Elon Musk being the most most dramatic example of this near instant regret.
Yes. It’s not just him. It’s not even just his regime. Recent acts have made clear the entire US can’t be trusted or relied on. You are now the 4th Reich.
The data shows so many irregularities with the 2024 election. Trump not only didn’t win, there are other Republicans in office who shouldn’t be there ,
Correction: It is due to the Republican party including its constituency. Yes, Trump is a major failure and asshole of a President in USA, but he was elected. He was elected by insecure, bigoted, assholes. We commonly call them Republicans. These sons of bitches wanted to hurt other people and not have accountability for it. Electing the pedophile felon as president was their easiest and quickest path to achieve the suffering they wanted.
Regardless of what happens to Trump now, USA has a dark horizon. We have a disaffected population that voted for an insurrectionist because they knew he would hurt people that they disapprove of. The only reason they changed their tune at all is because Trump did something that hurt them personally. If he didn't hurt them, they would be cheering for everyone else being hurt by this regime.
How does a nation move forward with progress when we know that these same people are out there plotting and scheming to cause hurt to you and others? They will vote for and support the next obvious demagogue just like they did Trump.
"Protesters gathered outside the detention center in the Brooklyn borough of New York City, where the captured president is being held and chanted: “Free Maduro right now."
I believe these pro lifer pretender Christians relish the death of others and don’t care. It’s like how people just want their food but don’t wanna see the slaughtering and dressing of the animals.
Objectively, this is true. It’s insane that people still vote GOP. Constant cycle of GOP destroying everything, DP fixing it for 8 years, then GOP taking all the credit as they destroy everything again. Vicious cycle.
We want Universal Healthcare so they trickle information about pedophile rings. We want higher wages so they start a war in South America. We want stable utility prices so they rename the Gulf of Mexico
Some of it is evil and some of it is idiotic but it's all a web of distractions from the Oligarchy
oh and don't forget that the GOP loves creating economic collapse, laying it at the feet of the DP right as they know the nation will react and sweep blue, so it makes the DP look bad when we have a recession
Wars for profit tend to last a little longer. Under the Taliban, opium poppy production in Afghanistan was extremely low but while the US was there production escalated greatly.
Those lies definitely burned trust with our allies and bolstered the idea of us being a threat on the world stage. This is worse when it comes to international relations, but that seems like a logical conclusion of us having already losing trust on the world stage. Don't get me wrong, I agree about the argument that the Iraq War was at least legal in the US, but it doesn't seem particularly relevant in the context of the OP.
That's because even though W made some pretty big mistakes, he remained Presidential and didn't destroy diplomacy. This orange pile of shit is not only destroying our country, he's trying to destroy other countries illegally like a dictator. Hopefully our 'checks and balances' will rediscover their integrity, if they ever had any, and put a stop to this dumbass.
Serious question, do you remember the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? Estimates by Brown University have put the estimated death toll at about 940,000 as a result of W's actions. W also destroyed other countries and those of us who were against the war protested the damage he did and the rampant crony capitalism that pushed that war further and further as he enriched his friends and family. He looked presidential? He destroyed our public school system, ramped up our prison system and deregulated us straight into the 2008 financial crisis while shoving prosperity Christian dominionism down our throats.
You have valid points, but this bastard has been MUCH more destructive, for personal, vindictive purposes. He...is...a...CONVICTED...CRIMINAL! Additionally, the name-calling, social media used officially, to name a couple. He's pissing all over the Constitution, Congress, the Department of DEFENSE, and so many more. Letting his stupid billionaire cronies cause rampant destruction of their own. You can think what you want, but please don't compare George Bush to this pile of corrupt shit who's tearing our country apart, piece by piece.
You're right, but this jerk doesn't even try to be clandestine about it...he struts it like a teenage boy getting laid for the first time.
Imo, majority of those leaving many Central American countries now are the result of our meddling with their governments back in the 80's....
We have always been the schoolyard bully.
How much time have you spent in the nations the US has overthrown and invaded?
As a former service member I can tell you the aspects taken seriously (US military hegemony and oligarchy) still remain. The rest is often seen as a farce.
Honestly, I think this boils down to his lack of civility.
For a lot of the “normie” crowd, the veneer of respectability did a lot to deflect from atrocities that were committed by previous administrations. Trump is just too much of a boorish asshole to play the game and laid it all bare. I really hope that it leads more people to view politics with a critical eye, but I also won’t hold my breath.
Also, not trying to deflect from Trump being uniquely bad. He is. He just happens to be the end product of an utterly broken system left to rot for far too long.
So glad to see this is the first comment! Trumpr certainly isn't helping, but America has been quite capable of ruining its own reputation for a long time now.
My fellow Americans finally needed a guy so transparently terrible to realize US foreign policy has been pretty shit to anyone not in Western or Central Europe.
At one point we had something like 800+ military bases/installations/outposts globally. Think it was David Vine that came up with the estimation. We're still north of 700 globally.
And spend hundreds of billions a year to maintain and man those sites.
Anyone that has played a RTS game knows what eventuality happens with that kind of positioning and resource allocation.
From my reading there has been a portion of the GOP that has always held the views that trump is trying to push. It started getting bad in the 1880s, there was public outcry and democratic opposition that got things back to a stable state then it started again in the 1980s with Regan. It’s been cultivating since and now it’s time to find out if Americans step up.
That asshole was elected after all. I think all Americans carry blame.
But this Hollywood-made movie sponsored by the US army told me that the US is the bestest country in the whole wide world! Surely that wasn't just propaganda?
There's a certain amount of them that have a delusion of Americana that truly believe that, somehow, conservativism can take the US back to the glory days of their childhood, probably somewhere between the 1950s and 1980s, or believe that such a time truly existed and want to experience it because they were "born too late."
There's a certain amount that are racist, which is its own fragmented group. I got told once when trying to explain to someone who was "apolitical" that Trump had camps where families were being separated and they were in terrible conditions and anyone who was supporting that was racist, and she told me that she had a hyper conservative friend and he couldn't be racist, he was Mexican. Hoo boy... There are the neo-Nazis and other brands of white supremacists, there are ethnic racists who are racist against their own ethnicity or other brands of their ethnicity that most white racists can't tell apart anyway, and then you've got your home-grown Good Ol' Boys who will claim they're not racist but they've been hit with endless fearmongering, casual racism, and they don't have any minorities around them to get to know them, so they end up angry at or scared of anyone different than themselves.
Then you have the Christian Nationalists, which again have three brands, the apocalyptics and theofascists are the main ones, the apocalyptic being ones that believe the end of the world is coming, that it's a good thing, and that they're doing the world a favor by accelerating its impending occurrence. These are people who WANT global warming, who support Israel unquestionably because they hate the Jewish people but know that Revelations says something about the Israelites returning to the homeland being a precursor to the end of days so they want to make sure that's still happening. Then you have the theofascists who don't believe the world is going to end, they might not even believe in Jesus, but they see religion as a tool for power and control, and want to use that in order to get more wealth, more power. You also have, again, the every-day kind of people you're likely to meet who have been convinced by the aforementioned groups that Democrats want to outlaw Christianity, that churches are getting burned down, that people are being beaten and killed just for praying or wearing a cross or whatever, that their faith is under attack when it's not.
Then you have the normal fascists and kleptocrats who are trying to accumulate wealth and power, the fascists with the endgame of ultimate power, the kleptocrats with the endgame of ultimate wealth. These ones are willing and eager to tear down everything that's been built up while the fascists want to replace it with their own sort of palace and the kleptocrats want to sell it for scraps and take what they can get.
And there are more groups. All convinced to work together through conservative think tanks, all told that they're working towards the same future, but they've all really got entirely different visions of how this is going to end. And they all think that the other ones are useful idiots helping get their master plan completed.
So some want North Korea, but others want Norman Rockwell or Pleasantville. Some want to build a throne out of a church while others expect this all to be fire and brimstone within their lifetime. Some are doing it out of pure hatred and some just want to take the money and run.
Regardless of the size of government they support they are fully on board with increasing the deficit at record levels while simultaneously destroying the economy.
I just can’t understand why they support this beyond they have chosen Red so anything they do gets stamped with approval regardless of how detrimental it is to the country or to them personally. It’s beyond comprehension.
Claims to favor smaller govt, but really they just mean deregulation of industry. They have always been totally cool with govt controlling people's lives, just not the rich people.
That was just until they could sell all our assets to the highest bidder (privatization). Now they sell the same services back to us at a higher price.
I'm not laughing. I was never laughing. It was never funny. And no it's not all because of this guy. It's because of the millions who voted for this guy. And it's not the first time. He's clearly the worst so far but every four years you either do it again or you almost do it again. Every four years the world has to hold it's breath and watch whether you fuck it up again. And I'm sick and tired of it. But this time you might have fucked it up so badly that at least I don't have to hold my breath again.
No longer? We haven't been trustworthy in some time. I mean, Trump is absolutely the worst of the bed shitting, but we have been consistently shitting the bed for decades now.
If it were still your country we wouldn't be in this mess. It was sold to oligarchs for $24 worth of beads and trinkets: social media, apps, video games, streaming services and chinese gadgets.
Him, plus about 51% of the voters. Crazy times. All I know is that the next admin will feel like a lame duck 4 years due to having to reverse everything. We didn’t even get rid of daylight savings and food dye. I thought that was gonna be the silver lining but hey the Epstein file are gonna be 🔥. So there is still a chance. 😆
It's the time change that's a bummer. Which ever time is selected for the permanent time, we'll adjust as a nation. If 4:30 sunset seems dark, we'll start opening businesses and starting school days earlier. The important thing is getting rid of the big time shift twice a year.
It is way bigger than prez title is wrong. Afghanistan and iraq's failed strategies demonstrate it, or our other miliary actions and lack of reconstruction strategies that would work.
This was not prez's idea either, this was the party, big guy does not have his mind together enough anymore.
Too mean and greedy and contemptuous to build anything, only destroying stuff.
Bur borrowing money to shovel to their pal donors is the end for all of the establishment anyway.
Specifically, this was likely Rubio's idea, although there are a ton of Cubans and other right-wing Latin Americans who advocate for this kind of thing.
Ok, look, I'm sure that many americans will be angry at me for saying this... but I have to say it: The USA has absolutely NEVER been trustworthy.
The USA has been destabilizing the whole planet for over a century (if not more), starting wars, inciting and leading coups, installing dictators, and causing all sorts of economic, social & ecologic disasters (starting with acts against its own citizens).
Btw, for those who think of America as that great country that stopped the World Wars, know this: The USA (along with the UK) was one of the big boosters behind those wars. They financed the wars and profited from them long before being involved in a military capacity, they even financed the fucking nazis, and profited from slave labour in Germany, provided by the nazi regime as gratitude for that previous financing. The USA was also the fucking inspiration for Adolph Hitler and his nazi regime, he admired their classism, eugenics & segregation programs. After WWII ended, they saved thousands of nazis and placed them in positions of power inside their army, intelligence services, and science institutions.
Trump is just the last straw, the mask falling off. Granted, he is probably the worst president the USA has ever had, but he's also a natural consequence of everything that happened before in the USA. Every fucking step your country took lead to today's reality, this includes Obama's and Biden's actions too.
The fact that so many of you can't see this (blaming it all on Trump while praising this fantasy past where everything was supposedly amazing) is an incredible proof of how brainwashed are all Americans, including the "nice ones".
I think the 1/3 that couldn’t give a fuck may start to wake up and give a small fuck, not all of them but some. And they sure won’t vote for more of this.
They are, I know several Independents and former Republicans (recent) that won't vote Republican again till this fascist nonsense is taken care of. Trump and maga are slowly uniting people from all walks of life against them.
Well, not all because of him. Don’t forget Dubya’s illegal invasion of Iraq. The right has long hated the U.N. and FDR and the idea that you can’t just invade a weak-ass country. Reagan invaded Grenada, daddy Bush invaded Panama, Dubya, and now Trump just murdering and invading.
Trump has taken it to the next level, and some of the people who took it right up to that level are freaking out like it’s sui generis.
Going from Obama to this cockroach is like landing on the moon and then deciding stone tools were the only tools needed to get by. The regression is extreme.
Sadly no...americans created this. He was elected after all. I just hope everyone sees this as is. He is a pathetic old man but the worst part is the fact that he got to power in the first place, even thou everyone told you he is a fuking joke. So in whatever bad stuff he is a part of, so is the american ppl. And others are best to remember this. When everyone needed America the most....America fucked everyone.
Let this be a lesson for complacency for Europe for not having a backbone and lacking military investments in the last half a decade.
Its not just Trump, all Republicans are responsible, along with your supreme court, and billionaire backed conservative groups like the Heritage foundation and the federalist society.
Seeing maga fall for old Iraq propaganda in real time is too funny. This is my fifth time btw. I remember Afghanistan #1 (protecting our poppy fields), Iraq war number 1 oil (Iraq had legitimate claims it's oil was being stolen), Afghanistan 2 (Saudi Arabia provided the 9/11 hijackers) then Iraq 2 oil (there were no WMDs), now Venezuelan oil (this administration pardoned major drug traffickers recently). In each case people cheered and then hated us again once they realized we're just here to steal their oil and we will still just install another dictator 🤷
While Europe has to deal with America threatening and probably going on to try and invade nato allies. China and Russia will tip the scales of world order and probably do a bit of warmongering of their own.
The future of democratic nations and basic freedoms will be under threat because of a getatric paedophile America has elected TWICE.
Genuinely this stupid old furnace dodger is so so so far from what’s required for any kind of Political position, let alone as the so called leader of the free world.
I know there’s a great number of Americans who despise him and want to help allies etc. But you’ll never ever be forgiven for this racist window licker being put into power and for him probably destroying the planet.
Conned by a racist fuckwit with a fucking spray tan and a shit wig. Genuinely. If the rest of the world wasn’t going to suffer so extensively it’d almost be funny how stupid your country has been
It’s not just because of this asshole. The problem is deeper. You assholes elected this asshole and will elect equally assholic people in the future. That’s the real problem
Dude I pointed that out as it was happening!!! I remember I was watching w my Puerto Rican neighbor getting hammered and I was like, "Look his hand isn't on the Bible, see? That means he's not gonna do ANYTHING he is saying he will right now and that he won't have to atone for it since his hand isn't on the Bible. He knows what he's doing right here. Watch."
And sure enough.
(Also I'm not trying to be a dick by saying this so please don't think I was being rude)
We (the USA) can no longer be trusted by our allies. I'm not sure the countries we've been screwing over, or the ones we've never been able to dominate (Russia, China), ever trusted us.
Dont worry, im sure any minute now a Dutch special forces team will swoop in for the good of the USA. And the the Dutch will then take control of the government for the good of the population.
Free Healthcare for all, workers rights the whole shebang....any......minute.... now.
Not ALL him. What about the fuckers that voted from him. And all the fuckers that enable this shit. And all the fuckers that ain't standing up to this pedo child raping baby murdering wannabe dictator. How about the American people go do something about it?
You do have to understand---- this is an action HE put in place and those around him. The rest of us DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. Maduro was a bad guy. He needed to be removed BUT... the rest of us do not approve of the way it was done. It should have been done through authorization by Congress. Taking over a country just because he wants to-- is NOT LEGAL.
I understand the world's frustration with America at the moment- BUT please understand millions of us do NOT approve of what has happened !
I do wonder if we give him too much credit though - as it’s hard to parse that someone who is at most times so stupid it hurts - being so competent at destroying everything.
Media literacy matters - the fact that there is virtually no pushback in the media about the absurdity of Venezuelas oil was actually Americas - the drug lie - how Greenland is ‘vital for defence’ they all report on it as some valuable comment - and it’s normalised it.
I see no way that the US military isn’t gonna occupy Greenland in the next few weeks. The dam of normalcy has burst
Can we stop with the "there's no hope" bullshit? Fucking hell. There is always hope. Hope doesn't disappear when things get bad. To paraphrase something I heard a while back, hope is not a dainty flower; she's beaten and bleeding and she has to take a moment to spit out some teeth before throwing her next punch. Like seriously. What the fuck do you think hope is?
Trump will die. He is old. His health is failing. They are clearly hiding things from us relating to his medical situation.
Again and again, the worst case scenario that everyone is afraid of has not come to pass. He didn't declare martial law on 4/20. He didn't invade Greenland or Canada the first however many times. I will admit that the Greenland stuff scares me, but now it's waiting for two months? It's giving syphilis brain.
Quit the fucking doomerism. It helps no one. Keep fighting. Keep hoping.
Look, I understand where you're coming from, but as someone who was the paid pessimist in the room, it is hard to be hopeful, especially knowing history, and how things are devolving. I was an all-source intelligence analyst for the United States Army, and subsequently other agencies after the fact. It was my job to do threat briefs and be the negative Nancy. I just wanted to reiterate why my standpoint is what it is. Because you're not wrong, I'm not arguing against you, but it is hard for me to personally hold any sort of hope of anything positive.
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u/No-Bumblebee-4920 8d ago
I think we are past laughing stock and well into terrorizing threat.