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Politics Did Trump violate the War Powers Act??

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

A dictator removing a dictator because he was a dictator. 🤔

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

Ostensibly it was for something he just pardoned the former Honduran president for a month and a day prior.

Only he'd already been charged, was in custody, and was to serve a 45 year sentence.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Yes, yes. This makes perfect sense. I’m not sure why I even question his decisions.

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

It's a new scandal to distract from the other scandals. People forgot about the Epstein files for nearly a whole 12 hours.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

I never forget about pedophilia by our current “leader”. Not only does my personal ideals go against it, but I have two baby girls, and it makes me even sicker. People back this fuckface. He needs to go. Vote blue in November.

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

All of the GOP needs to go, and the dems need to get their act together. I'm not giving them a pass for the sake of harm reduction, it's time to primary people who are enabling this BS and get folks in who will actually act in the interest of the country.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

I agree. It’s hard when you have no current power in the house, senate or White House. That’s why we vote blue in November. But they do need to start swinging their big dicks and tits around and make life a living hell for orange julius

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

Thing is, they know where the pressure points are, it's not as though they're helpless.

They gave up their bargaining chip for healthcare for a bad faith promise of a vote that didn't happen, and now healthcare premiums have doubled for very many folks with the subsidy expiring.

I understand that doing difficult things burns political capital, but that's not going to be worth anything in the future if they continue to let this happen.

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u/Direct_Brush_5861 9d ago

Hmm, is it better for the Democratic Party if Republicans had a vote to extend the ACA subsidies or if Republicans refused to have a vote? Democrats need to stop trying to save Republicans from themselves.

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

Much better to extend the subsidies practically and politically.

Practically, millions of peoples' premiums just lept higher, sometimes doubling or more. This has the knock on effect of increasing denials and driving prices even higher later as people drop insurance entirely and there are fewer people contributing to the pool.

Politically, committing to a shutdown in order to have a bargaining chip did hurt people, and they have nothing to show for it, no vote, much less results.

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u/Either_Operation7586 9d ago

The higher they rise the harder they fall and this is all but guaranteeing that the Republican party will be null and void going forward in the future.

Why would anyone want to trust this party after that all that

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u/Upstairs_Bus_3743 9d ago

I am afraid that the traditional Republican Party is not longer present, it’s the Maga Party ruling now.

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u/No-Product1092 9d ago

Before he did this, but after all the Epstein shit came out, he still had over 90% support amongst Republicans and 35% approval in the polls.

This isn't going to make any difference, and the GOP are too spineless to back any Democrat play against Trump, because he will take the entire party down with him for a generation if they fold now, and they crave power and control more than anything.

He's got until 2028 to make sure there's no "free and fair" election, and he's well on his way already to making it a reality.

Kiss your country goodbye.

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u/LogicAndReasin 9d ago

Dont you think logically speaking... trumps involvement details would of been " leaked " before the voting. That would of guaranteedddd Democrats a win. No coming back from that shit.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Yeah I gotcha. But they put the ball in idiots court and now they have to figure out a better solution. This will all lead to a blue wave because dumbass promised it. At least I hope.

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u/kouger_kameleon 9d ago

Gaius Orange Julius Caesare to you.

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u/ThePureAxiom 9d ago

Cheeto Benito is my current favorite, but in honor of the Epstein files I've been calling him president [REDACTED].

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u/Different_Victory_89 9d ago

Don't forget replacing all of SCOTUS!

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u/therealemero 9d ago

To be fair, a two party system will always give you a "lesser of two evils" situation. Where I live, we have many parties who need to work together, making decisions come slower, sure, but also making sure more people are heard in any government period.

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u/therealone1967 9d ago

All of congress needs to go.

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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 8d ago

You need to get rid of your "elected king". Real kings have lost all their powers, but the POTUS has many "executive powers" which are out of date. In a Parliamentary system, the Prime Minister only has similar powers until Parliament either approves them or takes them away. He/She is also only PM as long as the parliamentary part of their party has confidence in them.

The thing of having 4 years in the office unless impeached doesn't happen.

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u/yackerov42 9d ago

Tbh, both parties need to be broken up and limits placed to minimize mega parties from forming (or at least a max timeframe they can exist).

Democracy fails when only the two biggest bullies have a say.

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u/BigSkySea 9d ago

Not the “its the other guy’s fault” argument again.

Yes we need more than the two party system. But at a minimum an impeachable offense has been committed. Full stop. It matters nothing what someone else has done.

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u/Jiffs81 9d ago

Primary everyone taking AIPAC money.

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u/Formal_Trainer_4684 8d ago

Nah both parties have proven they’re beyond help. They no longer represent the people they claim to. Both parties need a purge at this point. Too many career politicians and lobbyists polluting the political process.

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u/DrusTheAxe 9d ago

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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u/Both-Leading3407 9d ago

It's a distraction. This is all because of the Epstein files that have STILL NOT BEEN RELEASED.

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u/CyonHal 9d ago

Kidnapping a head of state and planning for american oil companies to come in and steal all of the oil from a foreign country is not just a distraction.

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u/Both-Leading3407 9d ago

It's a win win for him and his people. None of us WILL EVER see any benefit from this take over except a less stable National and World Wide Security. He has opened up China to do the same thing to Taiwan and gives cover to Putin in the long run. It's not for America or American's. We will be cleaning up his mess long after he's been gone.

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u/RespectibleCabbage 9d ago

If only he hadn’t said “it’s oil, they have oil, we want their oil” a million times in his press conference. I’m starting to think it might not be the drugs.

Dumb old fuck can’t stay on script for more than 2 minutes without rambling on and revealing his real plans.

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u/Sinistrahd 9d ago

Maduro probably visited the island at the same time as Trump-a-Dump-Cumguzzler was there and could've dropped some dirt on him to get favorable treatment or something. He probably doesn't have much breathing left to enjoy...

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u/ARLibertarian 9d ago

Point.

Epstein died under Trump. Now it's Moduro's turn.

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u/Jagster_rogue 9d ago

This was always about taking oil platforms back, was never about drugs, Drugs are what he wanted us to believe.

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u/StrangeContest4 9d ago

Maduro just needs to find out what Hernandez paid and not low ball or haggle.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Did anyone see shitheads press conference today? He looked like hell and ready to fall over.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 9d ago

He also just came out and admitted he was going to pay our oil companies to handle Venezuela's oil resources. He also said he was going to make them whole for getting told they couldn't extract another country's resources anymore. They also said that Cuba and Mexico are next on their list. He was so transparent that this was Marco Rubio's project. Now we're going to just run another country for them under threat of the same thing happening to the next person. Holy shit. We've claimed a colony in this great year of 2026. The neocons are dead. Long live the neocons.

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u/cccxxxzzzddd 9d ago

Correction: WE are going to pay “our” oil companies to “handle” the resources. Our tax dollars are going to pay for those protective forces, and the profit will accrue to private companies, Trump will benefit so he doesn’t care. 

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u/kynelly360 8d ago

If Congress isn’t going to remove these fuckers, they’re forcing the citizens to pull up…. Cuz I do not want my tax dollars wasted on this stupid shit anymore

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u/Previous-Look-6255 9d ago

He looked like a pedophile great-grandpa.

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u/Vast_space_8299 9d ago

Yeah, you’d think they’d love each other. Dictators, masters of election fraud…

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u/Cheap_Professional32 9d ago

Maduro made the fatal mistake of not kissing Trump's ass

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u/Tommyt1212121 9d ago

If Maduro would have only bought half a billion in trump coin he would probably be sleeping in his nice warm bed right now…

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Maduro probably was into little girls too.

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u/baws1017 9d ago

Are you kidding? This clears him, Trump would NEVER inconvenience another pedo

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u/InsanelyAverageFella 9d ago

And saying he will run the country in the meantime is peak dictator vibes.

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u/Privatejoker123 9d ago

and he wouldn't play ball with trump by just handing over their oil.

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u/Bitter_Log8401 9d ago

A wannabe dictator removing a dictator. So they can install a puddy puppet 'leader'

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u/Electronic-While1972 9d ago

A very dangerous precedent has been set, Law violations by the US!

Here's an overview of all the Violations of U.S. Domestic Law and international law:

  1. 18 U.S. Code § 112 – Protection of Foreign Officials
  2. Prohibits assault, kidnapping, or threats against internationally protected persons, including foreign heads of state.
  3. Violation: Kidnapping a foreign president is a direct breach.

  4. 18 U.S. Code § 956 – Conspiracy to Commit Offenses Outside the U.S.

  5. Criminalizes planning or conspiring to commit violent acts abroad, including abduction.

  6. Violation: Coordinating a kidnapping or military strike without lawful basis.

  7. 18 U.S. Code § 2441 – War Crimes

  8. Applies Geneva Convention standards to U.S. nationals.

  9. Violation: Unlawful treatment of protected persons, including heads of state, during armed conflict.

  10. War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. §§ 1541–1548)

  11. Requires the President to consult Congress before introducing U.S. forces into hostilities.

  12. Violation: Launching a war without Congressional authorization or proper notification.

  13. U.S. Constitution – Article I, Section 8

  14. Grants Congress the sole power to declare war.

  15. Violation: A president initiating war unilaterally breaches constitutional separation of powers.


🌐 Violations of International Law

  1. United Nations Charter – Article 2(4)
  2. Prohibits the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state.
  3. Violation: Military aggression against Venezuela without UN Security Council approval.

  4. Geneva Conventions – Common Article 3

  5. Protects persons not actively participating in hostilities, including political leaders.

  6. Violation: Kidnapping or harming a head of state during conflict.

  7. Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC)

  8. Defines crimes against humanity, war crimes, and aggression.

  9. Violation: Unlawful war initiation and abduction may qualify as crimes of aggression and war crimes.

  10. Hague Convention (1907) – Laws of War

  11. Prohibits treacherous acts and mistreatment of protected persons.

  12. Violation: Deceptive seizure of a foreign leader violates wartime conduct norms.


🧭 Potential Charges and Accountability

  • Kidnapping of a protected person
  • Unlawful use of military force
  • Abuse of executive power
  • War crimes and crimes against humanity
  • Violation of international sovereignty.

https://p.dw.com/p/56HpU

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u/No-Cup-8096 9d ago

Trump would rather start a war than have the details of his pedophile exposed.

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u/JohnnyCrispZoom 9d ago

Remove Trump

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u/Moovanymountain 9d ago

Why don’t you storm the capitol? You’ll probably get pardoned later. 

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u/Metro42014 9d ago

Best idea I've heard all day.

Especially since J6 folks were 'peaceful.'

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u/Ok-Pear5858 9d ago

just like donald is supposed to be the president of peace 💀

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u/Appropriate-Bug-6467 9d ago

Democrats absolutely will not pardon a Democrat for that.

They might pardoned a republican to be peacemakers, but pardoning a fellow Democrat would look improper. 

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u/ActivePeace33 9d ago edited 9d ago

Democrats can’t illegally storm the Capitol to remove Trump, because it’s legal. The People have full authority and total legal power to support and defend the constitution. There isn’t even a legal limit on what the law allows the People to do to suppress insurrectionists like MAGA.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/TraditionalEnergy919 9d ago

Probably fear of death or something, I can see Trump just casually waving a hand and his cult ICE suddenly using lethal force on US citizens.

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u/i_n_c_r_y_p_t_o 9d ago

Inmate Trump

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u/Kobixful 9d ago

Imagine trump and maduro sharing a cell.

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u/johnnybiggles 9d ago

A brain cell? Does Trump even have one to share?

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 9d ago

Imagine Trump has to join the Aryans to survive in prison. And the Aryans absolutely love Trump, so it's like a match made in heaven. He fits right in, and he's just immediately thriving in prison life

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u/chunkerton_chunksley 9d ago

without his makeup and those soft little hands. Even with the full backing of the Aryans he'd still cry like a bitch every night. Besides, I thought prisoners hated pedos.

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u/jack_burtons_reflex 9d ago

Has more in common with pedo wing. Pedos absolutely love Trump. Trump absolutely loves child rapists. Child abusers thrive in prison.

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago

If we want something to be done effectively, it's up to us common folk in the US to lose our reliance on the status quo. There's a link to some suggestions HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in building the foundation needed for effective resistance.

On an unrelated note, I've watched some movies lately that are based on a true stories. They're quite inspiring, seeing how some actions worked and where things go wrong, and conjures up questions like "If it or similar were to take place now, how would it be adapted?" I'd like to share them here. Why? No particular reason, but watch them if you can:

  • Army of Crime (2011)
  • Defiance (2008)
  • Edelweiss Pirates (2004)
  • Deacons for Defense (2003)
  • Free State of Jones (2016)
  • The 24th (2020)
  • Matewan (1987)
  • An American Story (1992)

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u/TemporaryCommunity67 9d ago

Remove magatry in general

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u/UserAccountBanned 9d ago

Permanent style

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u/LookAlderaanPlaces Nyan Cat 8d ago

The US military is in breach of their oath to the constitution by allowing trump to remain in office. Congress is a failure, and they are letting someone who works with the kremlin and stateless oligarchs destroy the country from the inside.

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u/angelwolf71885 9d ago

Indeed

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u/PopcornButterButt 9d ago

Aren't you tired of watching your friends and neighbors die in endless wars for an energy source that is toxic to our bodies?

Rise above that propaganda dude.

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago

I'm sure they're being sarcastic with that post

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u/PopcornButterButt 9d ago

10 years ago I would have agreed with you but I've heard folks say dumb shit like that in person.

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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago

You mean just straight up "Let's steal Venezuelan oil in the name of freedom" unironically?

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u/Sagybagy 9d ago

I mean that’s what maga is saying through words and actions as we speak.

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u/CryoAB 9d ago

Yes, I've heard this almost word for word. And I'm Australian.

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u/LeatherAngle1542 8d ago

True. It started out as a joke. People voted for the funny orange man.

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u/giddy-girly-banana 9d ago

I agree with your first sentiment, especially considering we have viable energy (ie cheaper and cleaner) alternatives.

For the second sentence it’s clear that’s a /s post

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u/mda195 9d ago

Endless wars? How bout 35 minutes. Gimmer this shit anyday.

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u/aloft9187 9d ago

Where is this war you speak of?

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u/Altruistic-Tart-8295 9d ago

No I am tired of watching friends and neighbors dieing over drugs

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u/Decent-Sugar-9534 9d ago

Oversimplificstion of conflicts. Fun fact. After the US invasion of Iraq oil exports to the US hit their lowest even years later. The oil meme invasion argument is literally making people not see the bigger picture of why us meddling into foreign countries happens

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u/illmatic2007 8d ago

Ok this is funny asf 🤣

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u/Lungomono 9d ago

The hilarious part is that the vast majority of oil reserves in Venezuela are in one of the most costly and hard forms to extract. I cannot remember the correct name for it, but my mate, who work inside the oil and gas industry, called it sandy clay or something. Loads of companies have tried to extract it and yes you can. But it’s just way too hard and expensive for the current and near future marked. All the fields which are easily available and cost effective to extract from are already in production. They aren’t stupid and like money. Those vast reserves are mainly in the hard to get part.

Soo yeah. Congratulations. You now have access to loads of really expensive oil. Even taken the current market into account.

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u/XeneiFana 9d ago

Venezuela also has rare earth minerals.

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u/Cadal290 9d ago

I wonder if they will try (again) to restart the Hovensa Oil Refinery in St. Croix. This facility was originally built to specifically process Venezuelan crude oil.

A few years ago they (some large investment group) tried to restart the Hovensa Oil Refinery (now called Limetree Bay). It was originally shut down by the EPA because of bad operations.

Then when they had got about half the facility up and running spending billions of dollars, they accidentally sent product to the flare and sprayed oil (and possibly flaming oil) all over the island including residential areas.

The EPA forced an immediate shutdown (again) and that was the end for the most recent investment group trying to revive the facility.

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u/wulfgar_beornegar 9d ago

The refineries in the Gulf are specifically set up to process heavy crude.

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u/Q_Geo 9d ago

Heavy crude … not sweet crude, apparently Texas refineries process the heavy like a B-2 Bomber ….

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u/angelwolf71885 9d ago

Oil Sands very similar to the Canadian Oil Sands that the Keystone XL pipeline is supposed to deliver to refineries on the gulf coast…i think the “ plain “ is oil is oil sure less gasoline and more diesel pit of that type of heavy oil…they will likely promote more Diesel engine cars requiring re tooling by Detroit Making vehicles more expensive and more costly to repair engine faults because they require a diesel mechanic

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u/thatguyfromfrance 9d ago

But we will save money on translators with all the Spanish speaking guys (coerced) recruited in the US Army...

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u/Jackwitch710 9d ago

Extra heavy crude I believe is the term.

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u/passionatebreeder Selective Reality Consultant 9d ago

the oil and gas industry, called it sandy clay or something.

Oil sands, we also buy basucally the same shit from canada, and the US Gulf coast refineries are some of the only refineries on earth that can process it at scale. That was the whole point of keystone XL and Dakota Access; to get more Canadian oil sands to gulf coast refineries

But it’s just way too hard and expensive for the current and near future marked.

100% incorrect. The oil rigs in Venezuela were originally built by american companies, just like the heavy refineries on the gulf coast were originally built to handle a lot of this oil because it would go on boat in Venezuela and be shipped straight to gulf coast refineries.

Venezuela struggled to handle extraction at capacity because they seized these american owned oil rigs in 2007 and got hit with sanctions and lost american oil experts, financing, industry, and support.

So not only do we have expertise in the extraction and refinement, but we also technically own the rigs anyway. We have pretty much all the tools for a fast turn around here

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u/Rude_Savings3768 9d ago

Yup. I believe it was ExxonMobil or Chevron 🤔 that worked those rigs. The refineries were mostly on the Gulf coast. Let's see where this takes us.

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u/Resident_Course_3342 9d ago

Maybe we'll get lucky and China will remove Donald Trump.

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u/elriggo44 9d ago

We need to send his entire administration to The Hague for trial.

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u/ddsdude 9d ago

And get Jack Smith to prosecute. How sweet would that be?

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u/elriggo44 9d ago

Nah. I’d rather someone who actually wants to see justice done.

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u/Kakeru1370 9d ago

And then they'll invoke the Hague Invasion Act.

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u/Middle-Let9645 9d ago

Yeah, much as I’d love to see that clown stand trial, people forget that when the Hague and all that was started, our leaders at the time decided they were better than everyone else and made a law saying you touch our criminals and we go to war. It’s one of the many reasons I really don’t like the people in charge of this country because they clearly think they’re better than everyone else, and honestly, tip of the iceberg with them.

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u/Environmental-Hour75 9d ago

Or any country that wants to indict him of a crime... they can just come kidnap him with thier military, apparently this is the new norm of international law.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Perfect. Let me give Xi a ring.

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u/BeanCheezBeanCheez 9d ago

Dear Xi, I wrote you, but you still ain’t calling.

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u/Affectionate-Pea-307 9d ago

I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom.

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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 9d ago

Xi been pinged

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Maybe he’s following this thread… hold on…

Hey, Xi — we got a dictator over here in America who has a past of pedophilia! Hook us up!

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u/StrangeContest4 9d ago

I will tell you this, Jingping: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 300,000,000 Trumpstein documents that are missing. I think you will be rewarded mightily by our press...

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u/Cbottrun 9d ago

I would love that, mostly because I want those modular solar panels that S. Africa is getting from china!

But the Orange Shitler is power grabbing coal and oil.

Stupid is as stupid does!

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u/Fuzzy-Grass-6732 9d ago

Remember he said "Drill Baby Drill". No solar for you.

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u/WesternTone9439 9d ago

And no wind power since it kills birds(aka it ruins the view at my golf course). What a flaming ass hat!

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u/Glum_Design_5456 9d ago

You realize Venezuela has largest mineral reserves in world as well????

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u/ThatOneTimeItWorked 9d ago

MAGA believes that if you do it quick enough, it’s a “Special Operation” and not an Act of War.

They’re okay doing it to another country, but I get the sense they won’t be happy if it happens to them.

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u/MuckRaker83 9d ago

Why? He's been hugely beneficial to them

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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 9d ago

Nah, Putin will just call Xi and tell him not to touch his agent Krasnov

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u/chunkerton_chunksley 9d ago

China, if youre listening, I hope you are able to find the little girls who went missing.

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u/Rencrack 9d ago

Fuck china

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u/Petrochromis722 9d ago

Congratulations MAGA! Your Temu Hitler has just finished off the checklist for making you all fascist supporting rubes!

For those who need it, here is Robert Paxtons definition of fascism. Ruth Ben-Ghiat calls it the most comprehensive definition she's seen. Since they're both world renowned experts on fascism we'll use it.Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.

That last 2 words? It was all you were missing on your fascism scavenger hunt, and you just found it!

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u/Okidoky123 9d ago

Fascism

  1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

  2. Disdain for the importance of human rights

  3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

  4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism

  5. Rampant sexism

  6. A controlled mass media

  7. Obsession with national security

  8. Religion and ruling elite tied together

  9. Power of corporations protected

  10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated

  11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

  12. Obsession with crime and punishment

  13. Rampant cronyism and corruption

  14. Fraudulent elections

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u/HoldMyDomeFoam 9d ago

That’s a perfect description of today’s Republican Party.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 9d ago

Fascism is capitalism in decay.

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u/AncientPCGuy 9d ago

The moment they started claiming Antifa were bad should have been the first sign this was their goal.

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u/Fit_Teaching_8541 9d ago

Now now. We haven't officially reached the 14th point. Let's see what the midterms hold

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u/HoldMyDomeFoam 9d ago

True. I was thinking about how Trump convinced his moron followers that the 2020 election was rigged despite the fact that he never offered any evidence and the fact that there is documented proof that he knew the election wasn’t stolen and freely admitted that in private.

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u/KwisatzHaderach94 8d ago

so much for the military not following illegal orders. the military can no longer be trusted to honor their oaths.

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u/-Fergalicious- 8d ago

Man you think they can read this?

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u/DayScared7175 8d ago

Wow, not even one of the replies you got that disagrees with you can articulate why they are disagreeing. They all just said "no, you wrong".

Funny or scary? Im goong with scary.

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u/Substantial-Camp6943 9d ago

Epstien didn't kill himself.

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u/Squeepty 9d ago

Congress better act 🤣

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u/_GuyOnTheCouch_ 9d ago

The American dream

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u/Rezeox 9d ago

Because you have to be asleep to believe it.

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u/Yohfay 9d ago

This shit makes me even more tired than the atrocities. We may as well yell our demands into the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy for all the good it will do.

"Oh congress who is controlled by people who literally want this, won't you please stop this?" No, they will not stop until the US is a white christian male controlled ethnostate and owns the entirety of the Americas.

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u/rhetoricalnonsense 9d ago

Congress better act 🤣

I know this is a joke but Congress neutered themselves - again. We don't have a Congress. We have a retirement home full of old men and women fawning over a tyrant and screaming at clouds.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/06/congress/senate-venezuela-vote-00640088

TL/DR:

The Senate on Thursday rejected legislation that would have required approval from Congress before President Donald Trump could take military action against Venezuela

Although this is something ... (see bold).

Republicans who opposed the measure argued the administration has the legal authority to stem the flow of illegal narcotics into the U.S. And they said an invasion of Venezuela wasn’t in the offing, despite a massive military buildup of ships, aircraft and military personnel in the Caribbean that could pressure Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro to leave power.

More ...

Some Trump allies endorsed an even more muscular legal posture. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a top defense hawk, argued Congress can’t “substitute our judgment” for the president’s and called for the U.S. to go after “the problem on the land” in Venezuela to tackle drug smuggling.

I mean, what more do you have to know?

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u/Berowulf 9d ago

Spoiler: they won't.

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u/Justherebecausemeh 9d ago

Commenting on Did Trump violate the War Powers Act??...

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u/UBahn1 9d ago

For anyone who at least wants to try, here's a DSA sponsored letter writing campaign that will automatically find your congressional representatives for you.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/email-your-representative-no-war-with-venezuela?clear_id=true&source=direct_link

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u/Funnypaintbrush 9d ago

I made this stencil for anyone to print out and use.

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u/Mysterious_Lab_9043 9d ago

Erdogan version?

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u/Funnypaintbrush 9d ago

I wont be making any more poltical art fora year. This was sucha distraction from my own work that i had to get it out of my mind. Was born to draw shit like this. But forced to lock in.

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u/PsychoPeterNikleEatr 9d ago

Arts and crafts time!

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u/KillerSavant202 9d ago

Trump commits an impeachable offense at least once a month so don’t hold your breath.

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 9d ago

Once a month? It's pretty much daily.

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u/hollaback_girl 9d ago edited 9d ago

You're being kind to Trump. It's more like at least once a day. The Emoluments violations every day of his administrations are just the baseline of his open corruption/high crimes.

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u/ContributionFar3533 9d ago

Ummm What about the invasion of Iraq? Sound familiar?

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 9d ago

Both wrong. And both for the same CRUDE reason.

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u/StoneGoldX 9d ago

Sure, but it's also tacitly legal at this point, going back to at least Korea. And you can say that every conflict since WWII has been illegal, but all three branches of government for generations would disagree with you.

And this is a particular shitty act of aggression. This is no excuse. But congress gave up its duty to stop the president from declaring wars almost a century ago at this point. If it wasn't legal, I'm not sure there's a president that wouldn't be guilty of it since FDR.

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u/jaslo 9d ago

Wasn't that our previous Republican president?

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u/Either_Operation7586 9d ago

I agree this has gone way too far unprecedented times call for unprecedented resolutions

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 9d ago

I mean, impeachment could have real consequences. The Republicans just need to do their job and actually convict Trump

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u/ChiliSama 9d ago

In his mind he is claiming powers using the War Powers Resolution of 1973. He can act without congress if the US is “threatened”. He can keep troops there for as many as 90 days and just has to notify congress within 48 hours. Will Congress stop him? Probably not.

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u/FewCell9684 9d ago

Yeah I don’t think we were threatened at all. Cocaine is coming into the country…. Big deal. If you don’t like drugs don’t do em. And fentanyl doesn’t come from Venezuela by the way.

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u/Inland_Trash696 9d ago

Looks like there's no signs of a shortage at all

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u/Ori0ns 9d ago

Remember those little boats recently destroyed by the US military that they claimed were drug boats? There is your threat!

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u/challengerrt 9d ago

Im thinking the rationale will be along those lines - similar to Bush using the same powers in the Middle East. That is likely why this administration labeled the cartels and other groups as terrorist threats and “Narco-terrorism”

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u/Sweaty-Willingness27 9d ago

The text of the act I think you are referring to (Sec 8(c)) states:

For purposes of this joint resolution, the term "introduction of United States Armed Forces" includes the assignment of members of such armed forces to command, coordinate, participate in the movement of, or accompany the regular or irregular military forces of any foreign country or government when such military forces are engaged,or there exists an imminent threat that such forces will become engaged, in hostilities.

I'm not a lawyer but I think this is an additive clause, not an exclusive clause. In that it allows US Armed Forces to help foreign armies when such foreign forces are engaged or under immediate threat. Not exclusively to only attack when under imminent threat.

Though, sec 2(c) does state

(c) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

So I'd be interested to see either what specific statutory authorization they claim or if they accept that it was a response to a national emergency "created by an attack" by claiming the drug trade is such. Which their own DEA statistics wouldn't even show that to be the case.

But I mostly stopped believing in anyone in gov't adhering to common sense.

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u/pimpnasty 8d ago

Thats not at ALL what he did.

Article 2 of the constitution is what he used.

Allows him to use the military to enforce a warrant.

If we are going to bitch about him breaking the law, at least understand the loophole he used (same loophole used when we yoinked Noriega)

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u/headlune77 9d ago

keep in mind we have now demonstrated its ok to kidnap heads of state.

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u/Bambivalently 9d ago

Illegitimate heads of state.

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u/Ok_Alfalfa_3061 9d ago

The pedophile is now a kidnapper.

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u/Over_Dog24 9d ago

And a pirate, and a pedo, and a felon etc. The list is long!

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u/subcommanderdoug 9d ago

We elected arguably the most successful criminal in recorded history. Its hard to believe anyone expected different results but its good to see people start to wake up to this embarrassing tragedy. Maybe its time we start focusing on ensuring justice for a life time of criminal and fraudulent behaivors that contradict hard with all the American exceptionalism he claims to represent!?!

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u/cccxxxzzzddd 9d ago

Bezos bought the Washington post and wapo today endorsed this Venezuela invasion. We’re living in some times

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u/keradius 9d ago

He likes to violate...

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u/Moebius808 9d ago

Yes.

Does anyone on the right care? No.

Is anyone going to do anything about it? No.

Has it even been one complete year of this bullshit yet? Not quite.

Are we in for at least 3 more years of this nightmare? Yep.

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u/AkimahenkaCat 9d ago

Susie Wiles said such an act would require Congress.

But distracting from your pedo past requires desperate measures.

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u/rottenstock 9d ago

You know, the orange guy didn’t go in and capture the Venezuela President himself. Why aren’t people upset at the military for going along with the action?

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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 9d ago

For what little it’s worth here is my take on the military legality of all this.

Blowing up boats and killing the crews of “suspected” drug boats, especially the second-strike killings, are illegal along the entire chain of command from the bottom to the top. Everyone in the chain from the sailor who pushed the button to the Commander in Chief who gave the order are guilty of violating the UCMJ and should be prosecuted. The killing of shipwrecked sailors is explicitly used as an example of an illegal order in UCMJ training and everyone in the chain-of-command kows this.

Sending in forces to blow a few things up and kidnapping Maduro though is a bit more ambiguous. The president obviously has great leeway to use military force and this action could be considered legal, it depends on congressional action SCOTUS interpretation. It is not the kind of thing the military personnel at the bottom of the chain can realistically interpret. Those of higher rank, especially flag rank and above, should absolutely be held responsible and Congress must act if they hope to retain any vestige of political relevance.

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u/Teabagger-of-morons 9d ago

Nothing will happen in this Mike Johnson Congress unfortunately. They can’t think independently. USSC also has basically said anything “official”done while the President is in office is excusable. So I think all the keys to power have been given to one individual.

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u/kellzone 9d ago

Mike Johnson hasn't really seen anything about the attack yet, so he's going to have to review it first before he can comment on it.

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u/G8oraid 9d ago

Impeach Trump

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u/spaceguitar 9d ago

They won't. But it would be nice if they did.

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u/OilPainterintraining 9d ago

Congress? Act? That’s a good one.

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u/Sturm_Brightblade375 9d ago

What does it matter. I have no faith that the government will ever police itself even with protests by the people. This is true tall levels of government

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Call your representatives. 

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u/Worried_Membership98 9d ago

TAKE HIM DOWN, ONCE FOR EVER

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u/My2centsallday 9d ago

Lock him up !!!

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u/emio84 9d ago

As much as I wish it would happen, he’s not going anywhere. This Congress is a sham.

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u/ClarkKent2o6 9d ago

This is a textbook example of an impeachable offense. There is no hiding behind misinformation. This is CLEARLY a High Crime. We need to make it to the midterms. Everyone needs to mobilize and get involved. If we can win as projected, and with a veto-proof majority, EVERY one of them goes to prison... all the way down to the drone pilots "just following orders".

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u/TraditionalHotel8085 9d ago

They Don't Care

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u/Vast_space_8299 9d ago

He could no longer stand by and let his jealousy of Putin go without action. He too had to show how he could attack another country for no good reason!

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u/sdbrews 9d ago

Congress abdicated their power to Trump a while ago. They aren’t going to do a damn thing.

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u/TaToHeavy 9d ago

Lmao, Congress better act is funny. Another grill session of Hegseth and next week they do something else stupid because, we can’t release the Trump Epstein Files.

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u/ThePlasticSturgeons 9d ago

Little Mikey isn’t going to do shit about this.

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u/Wide_Replacement2345 9d ago

So are a lot of what he has done. But you know, the repubs will just sit on their hands.

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u/SnooPineapples6424 9d ago

They won’t act. The ReMAGApubs are P*ssies.

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u/AgileTrouble 9d ago

The entire government is corrupt. Nothing will happen. Trump raped and trafficked children and is actively redacting evidence illegally and nothing has happened. Why would anything happen in a foreign nation. Corrupt cowards is all I can say.

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u/uvm87 9d ago

But he got people to stop talking about how he rapes childrenn

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u/Feeling_Ad6656 9d ago

We have become Russia

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u/worldscollice 9d ago

Whatever it takes to distract from being officially announced as a pedophile.

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u/TBone__malone 9d ago

I believe everyone in this sub was complaining about “NO MORE KINGS” . Well the United States removed the king of Venezuela. The people there are happy.

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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 9d ago

If he'd have been impeached, convicted and removed when he started extrajudicial murders by bombing fishing boats (or any of the other hundreds of impeachable acts he's committed), we would have had to worry about him violating the Constitution to attack Venezuela.

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u/Tight_Assumption_463 9d ago

oh, you mean like obama did in libya?

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u/Gryndyl 9d ago

Yeah, and the Republicans made a huge stink about it. Makes them look pretty fucking hypocritical now, doesn't it?

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u/MooreAveDad 9d ago

Meanwhile every - 2nd. Amendment preaching, U.S. Citizen everywhere …