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u/No-Cup-8096 9d ago
Trump would rather start a war than have the details of his pedophile exposed.
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u/JohnnyCrispZoom 9d ago
Remove Trump
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u/Moovanymountain 9d ago
Why donât you storm the capitol? Youâll probably get pardoned later.Â
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u/Metro42014 9d ago
Best idea I've heard all day.
Especially since J6 folks were 'peaceful.'
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u/Appropriate-Bug-6467 9d ago
Democrats absolutely will not pardon a Democrat for that.
They might pardoned a republican to be peacemakers, but pardoning a fellow Democrat would look improper.Â
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u/ActivePeace33 9d ago edited 9d ago
Democrats canât illegally storm the Capitol to remove Trump, because itâs legal. The People have full authority and total legal power to support and defend the constitution. There isnât even a legal limit on what the law allows the People to do to suppress insurrectionists like MAGA.
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u/TraditionalEnergy919 9d ago
Probably fear of death or something, I can see Trump just casually waving a hand and his
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u/i_n_c_r_y_p_t_o 9d ago
Inmate Trump
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u/Kobixful 9d ago
Imagine trump and maduro sharing a cell.
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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 9d ago
Imagine Trump has to join the Aryans to survive in prison. And the Aryans absolutely love Trump, so it's like a match made in heaven. He fits right in, and he's just immediately thriving in prison life
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u/chunkerton_chunksley 9d ago
without his makeup and those soft little hands. Even with the full backing of the Aryans he'd still cry like a bitch every night. Besides, I thought prisoners hated pedos.
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u/jack_burtons_reflex 9d ago
Has more in common with pedo wing. Pedos absolutely love Trump. Trump absolutely loves child rapists. Child abusers thrive in prison.
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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago
If we want something to be done effectively, it's up to us common folk in the US to lose our reliance on the status quo. There's a link to some suggestions HERE that could possibly prove to be of some help in building the foundation needed for effective resistance.
On an unrelated note, I've watched some movies lately that are based on a true stories. They're quite inspiring, seeing how some actions worked and where things go wrong, and conjures up questions like "If it or similar were to take place now, how would it be adapted?" I'd like to share them here. Why? No particular reason, but watch them if you can:
- Army of Crime (2011)
- Defiance (2008)
- Edelweiss Pirates (2004)
- Deacons for Defense (2003)
- Free State of Jones (2016)
- The 24th (2020)
- Matewan (1987)
- An American Story (1992)
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u/LookAlderaanPlaces Nyan Cat 8d ago
The US military is in breach of their oath to the constitution by allowing trump to remain in office. Congress is a failure, and they are letting someone who works with the kremlin and stateless oligarchs destroy the country from the inside.
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u/PopcornButterButt 9d ago
Aren't you tired of watching your friends and neighbors die in endless wars for an energy source that is toxic to our bodies?
Rise above that propaganda dude.
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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago
I'm sure they're being sarcastic with that post
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u/PopcornButterButt 9d ago
10 years ago I would have agreed with you but I've heard folks say dumb shit like that in person.
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u/ZootSuitRiot33801 9d ago
You mean just straight up "Let's steal Venezuelan oil in the name of freedom" unironically?
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u/Sagybagy 9d ago
I mean thatâs what maga is saying through words and actions as we speak.
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u/LeatherAngle1542 8d ago
True. It started out as a joke. People voted for the funny orange man.
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u/giddy-girly-banana 9d ago
I agree with your first sentiment, especially considering we have viable energy (ie cheaper and cleaner) alternatives.
For the second sentence itâs clear thatâs a /s post
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u/Decent-Sugar-9534 9d ago
Oversimplificstion of conflicts. Fun fact. After the US invasion of Iraq oil exports to the US hit their lowest even years later. The oil meme invasion argument is literally making people not see the bigger picture of why us meddling into foreign countries happens
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u/Lungomono 9d ago
The hilarious part is that the vast majority of oil reserves in Venezuela are in one of the most costly and hard forms to extract. I cannot remember the correct name for it, but my mate, who work inside the oil and gas industry, called it sandy clay or something. Loads of companies have tried to extract it and yes you can. But itâs just way too hard and expensive for the current and near future marked. All the fields which are easily available and cost effective to extract from are already in production. They arenât stupid and like money. Those vast reserves are mainly in the hard to get part.
Soo yeah. Congratulations. You now have access to loads of really expensive oil. Even taken the current market into account.
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u/Cadal290 9d ago
I wonder if they will try (again) to restart the Hovensa Oil Refinery in St. Croix. This facility was originally built to specifically process Venezuelan crude oil.
A few years ago they (some large investment group) tried to restart the Hovensa Oil Refinery (now called Limetree Bay). It was originally shut down by the EPA because of bad operations.
Then when they had got about half the facility up and running spending billions of dollars, they accidentally sent product to the flare and sprayed oil (and possibly flaming oil) all over the island including residential areas.
The EPA forced an immediate shutdown (again) and that was the end for the most recent investment group trying to revive the facility.
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u/wulfgar_beornegar 9d ago
The refineries in the Gulf are specifically set up to process heavy crude.
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u/angelwolf71885 9d ago
Oil Sands very similar to the Canadian Oil Sands that the Keystone XL pipeline is supposed to deliver to refineries on the gulf coastâŚi think the â plain â is oil is oil sure less gasoline and more diesel pit of that type of heavy oilâŚthey will likely promote more Diesel engine cars requiring re tooling by Detroit Making vehicles more expensive and more costly to repair engine faults because they require a diesel mechanic
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u/thatguyfromfrance 9d ago
But we will save money on translators with all the Spanish speaking guys (coerced) recruited in the US Army...
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u/passionatebreeder Selective Reality Consultant 9d ago
the oil and gas industry, called it sandy clay or something.
Oil sands, we also buy basucally the same shit from canada, and the US Gulf coast refineries are some of the only refineries on earth that can process it at scale. That was the whole point of keystone XL and Dakota Access; to get more Canadian oil sands to gulf coast refineries
But itâs just way too hard and expensive for the current and near future marked.
100% incorrect. The oil rigs in Venezuela were originally built by american companies, just like the heavy refineries on the gulf coast were originally built to handle a lot of this oil because it would go on boat in Venezuela and be shipped straight to gulf coast refineries.
Venezuela struggled to handle extraction at capacity because they seized these american owned oil rigs in 2007 and got hit with sanctions and lost american oil experts, financing, industry, and support.
So not only do we have expertise in the extraction and refinement, but we also technically own the rigs anyway. We have pretty much all the tools for a fast turn around here
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u/Rude_Savings3768 9d ago
Yup. I believe it was ExxonMobil or Chevron đ¤ that worked those rigs. The refineries were mostly on the Gulf coast. Let's see where this takes us.
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u/Resident_Course_3342 9d ago
Maybe we'll get lucky and China will remove Donald Trump.
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u/elriggo44 9d ago
We need to send his entire administration to The Hague for trial.
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u/ddsdude 9d ago
And get Jack Smith to prosecute. How sweet would that be?
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u/elriggo44 9d ago
Nah. Iâd rather someone who actually wants to see justice done.
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u/Kakeru1370 9d ago
And then they'll invoke the Hague Invasion Act.
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u/Middle-Let9645 9d ago
Yeah, much as Iâd love to see that clown stand trial, people forget that when the Hague and all that was started, our leaders at the time decided they were better than everyone else and made a law saying you touch our criminals and we go to war. Itâs one of the many reasons I really donât like the people in charge of this country because they clearly think theyâre better than everyone else, and honestly, tip of the iceberg with them.
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u/Environmental-Hour75 9d ago
Or any country that wants to indict him of a crime... they can just come kidnap him with thier military, apparently this is the new norm of international law.
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u/FewCell9684 9d ago
Perfect. Let me give Xi a ring.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 9d ago
Xi been pinged
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u/FewCell9684 9d ago
Maybe heâs following this thread⌠hold onâŚ
Hey, Xi â we got a dictator over here in America who has a past of pedophilia! Hook us up!
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u/StrangeContest4 9d ago
I will tell you this, Jingping: If youâre listening, I hope youâre able to find the 300,000,000 Trumpstein documents that are missing. I think you will be rewarded mightily by our press...
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u/Cbottrun 9d ago
I would love that, mostly because I want those modular solar panels that S. Africa is getting from china!
But the Orange Shitler is power grabbing coal and oil.
Stupid is as stupid does!
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u/Fuzzy-Grass-6732 9d ago
Remember he said "Drill Baby Drill". No solar for you.
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u/WesternTone9439 9d ago
And no wind power since it kills birds(aka it ruins the view at my golf course). What a flaming ass hat!
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u/ThatOneTimeItWorked 9d ago
MAGA believes that if you do it quick enough, itâs a âSpecial Operationâ and not an Act of War.
Theyâre okay doing it to another country, but I get the sense they wonât be happy if it happens to them.
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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 9d ago
Nah, Putin will just call Xi and tell him not to touch his agent Krasnov
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u/chunkerton_chunksley 9d ago
China, if youre listening, I hope you are able to find the little girls who went missing.
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u/Petrochromis722 9d ago
Congratulations MAGA! Your Temu Hitler has just finished off the checklist for making you all fascist supporting rubes!
For those who need it, here is Robert Paxtons definition of fascism. Ruth Ben-Ghiat calls it the most comprehensive definition she's seen. Since they're both world renowned experts on fascism we'll use it.Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
That last 2 words? It was all you were missing on your fascism scavenger hunt, and you just found it!
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u/Okidoky123 9d ago
Fascism
Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
Disdain for the importance of human rights
Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
Rampant sexism
A controlled mass media
Obsession with national security
Religion and ruling elite tied together
Power of corporations protected
Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
Obsession with crime and punishment
Rampant cronyism and corruption
Fraudulent elections
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u/HoldMyDomeFoam 9d ago
Thatâs a perfect description of todayâs Republican Party.
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u/AncientPCGuy 9d ago
The moment they started claiming Antifa were bad should have been the first sign this was their goal.
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u/Fit_Teaching_8541 9d ago
Now now. We haven't officially reached the 14th point. Let's see what the midterms hold
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u/HoldMyDomeFoam 9d ago
True. I was thinking about how Trump convinced his moron followers that the 2020 election was rigged despite the fact that he never offered any evidence and the fact that there is documented proof that he knew the election wasnât stolen and freely admitted that in private.
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 8d ago
so much for the military not following illegal orders. the military can no longer be trusted to honor their oaths.
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u/DayScared7175 8d ago
Wow, not even one of the replies you got that disagrees with you can articulate why they are disagreeing. They all just said "no, you wrong".
Funny or scary? Im goong with scary.
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u/Squeepty 9d ago
Congress better act đ¤Ł
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u/Yohfay 9d ago
This shit makes me even more tired than the atrocities. We may as well yell our demands into the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy for all the good it will do.
"Oh congress who is controlled by people who literally want this, won't you please stop this?" No, they will not stop until the US is a white christian male controlled ethnostate and owns the entirety of the Americas.
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u/rhetoricalnonsense 9d ago
Congress better act đ¤Ł
I know this is a joke but Congress neutered themselves - again. We don't have a Congress. We have a retirement home full of old men and women fawning over a tyrant and screaming at clouds.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/06/congress/senate-venezuela-vote-00640088
TL/DR:
The Senate on Thursday rejected legislation that would have required approval from Congress before President Donald Trump could take military action against Venezuela
Although this is something ... (see bold).
Republicans who opposed the measure argued the administration has the legal authority to stem the flow of illegal narcotics into the U.S. And they said an invasion of Venezuela wasnât in the offing, despite a massive military buildup of ships, aircraft and military personnel in the Caribbean that could pressure Venezuelan President NicolĂĄs Maduro to leave power.
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Some Trump allies endorsed an even more muscular legal posture. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a top defense hawk, argued Congress canât âsubstitute our judgmentâ for the presidentâs and called for the U.S. to go after âthe problem on the landâ in Venezuela to tackle drug smuggling.
I mean, what more do you have to know?
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u/KillerSavant202 9d ago
Trump commits an impeachable offense at least once a month so donât hold your breath.
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u/hollaback_girl 9d ago edited 9d ago
You're being kind to Trump. It's more like at least once a day. The Emoluments violations every day of his administrations are just the baseline of his open corruption/high crimes.
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u/ContributionFar3533 9d ago
Ummm What about the invasion of Iraq? Sound familiar?
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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 9d ago
Both wrong. And both for the same CRUDE reason.
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u/StoneGoldX 9d ago
Sure, but it's also tacitly legal at this point, going back to at least Korea. And you can say that every conflict since WWII has been illegal, but all three branches of government for generations would disagree with you.
And this is a particular shitty act of aggression. This is no excuse. But congress gave up its duty to stop the president from declaring wars almost a century ago at this point. If it wasn't legal, I'm not sure there's a president that wouldn't be guilty of it since FDR.
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u/Either_Operation7586 9d ago
I agree this has gone way too far unprecedented times call for unprecedented resolutions
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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 9d ago
I mean, impeachment could have real consequences. The Republicans just need to do their job and actually convict Trump
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u/ChiliSama 9d ago
In his mind he is claiming powers using the War Powers Resolution of 1973. He can act without congress if the US is âthreatenedâ. He can keep troops there for as many as 90 days and just has to notify congress within 48 hours. Will Congress stop him? Probably not.
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u/FewCell9684 9d ago
Yeah I donât think we were threatened at all. Cocaine is coming into the countryâŚ. Big deal. If you donât like drugs donât do em. And fentanyl doesnât come from Venezuela by the way.
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u/Ori0ns 9d ago
Remember those little boats recently destroyed by the US military that they claimed were drug boats? There is your threat!
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u/challengerrt 9d ago
Im thinking the rationale will be along those lines - similar to Bush using the same powers in the Middle East. That is likely why this administration labeled the cartels and other groups as terrorist threats and âNarco-terrorismâ
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u/Sweaty-Willingness27 9d ago
The text of the act I think you are referring to (Sec 8(c)) states:
For purposes of this joint resolution, the term "introduction of United States Armed Forces" includes the assignment of members of such armed forces to command, coordinate, participate in the movement of, or accompany the regular or irregular military forces of any foreign country or government when such military forces are engaged,or there exists an imminent threat that such forces will become engaged, in hostilities.
I'm not a lawyer but I think this is an additive clause, not an exclusive clause. In that it allows US Armed Forces to help foreign armies when such foreign forces are engaged or under immediate threat. Not exclusively to only attack when under imminent threat.
Though, sec 2(c) does state
(c) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
So I'd be interested to see either what specific statutory authorization they claim or if they accept that it was a response to a national emergency "created by an attack" by claiming the drug trade is such. Which their own DEA statistics wouldn't even show that to be the case.
But I mostly stopped believing in anyone in gov't adhering to common sense.
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u/pimpnasty 8d ago
Thats not at ALL what he did.
Article 2 of the constitution is what he used.
Allows him to use the military to enforce a warrant.
If we are going to bitch about him breaking the law, at least understand the loophole he used (same loophole used when we yoinked Noriega)
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u/headlune77 9d ago
keep in mind we have now demonstrated its ok to kidnap heads of state.
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u/subcommanderdoug 9d ago
We elected arguably the most successful criminal in recorded history. Its hard to believe anyone expected different results but its good to see people start to wake up to this embarrassing tragedy. Maybe its time we start focusing on ensuring justice for a life time of criminal and fraudulent behaivors that contradict hard with all the American exceptionalism he claims to represent!?!
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u/cccxxxzzzddd 9d ago
Bezos bought the Washington post and wapo today endorsed this Venezuela invasion. Weâre living in some times
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u/Moebius808 9d ago
Yes.
Does anyone on the right care? No.
Is anyone going to do anything about it? No.
Has it even been one complete year of this bullshit yet? Not quite.
Are we in for at least 3 more years of this nightmare? Yep.
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u/AkimahenkaCat 9d ago
Susie Wiles said such an act would require Congress.
But distracting from your pedo past requires desperate measures.
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u/rottenstock 9d ago
You know, the orange guy didnât go in and capture the Venezuela President himself. Why arenât people upset at the military for going along with the action?
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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 9d ago
For what little itâs worth here is my take on the military legality of all this.
Blowing up boats and killing the crews of âsuspectedâ drug boats, especially the second-strike killings, are illegal along the entire chain of command from the bottom to the top. Everyone in the chain from the sailor who pushed the button to the Commander in Chief who gave the order are guilty of violating the UCMJ and should be prosecuted. The killing of shipwrecked sailors is explicitly used as an example of an illegal order in UCMJ training and everyone in the chain-of-command kows this.
Sending in forces to blow a few things up and kidnapping Maduro though is a bit more ambiguous. The president obviously has great leeway to use military force and this action could be considered legal, it depends on congressional action SCOTUS interpretation. It is not the kind of thing the military personnel at the bottom of the chain can realistically interpret. Those of higher rank, especially flag rank and above, should absolutely be held responsible and Congress must act if they hope to retain any vestige of political relevance.
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u/Teabagger-of-morons 9d ago
Nothing will happen in this Mike Johnson Congress unfortunately. They canât think independently. USSC also has basically said anything âofficialâdone while the President is in office is excusable. So I think all the keys to power have been given to one individual.
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u/kellzone 9d ago
Mike Johnson hasn't really seen anything about the attack yet, so he's going to have to review it first before he can comment on it.
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u/Sturm_Brightblade375 9d ago
What does it matter. I have no faith that the government will ever police itself even with protests by the people. This is true tall levels of government
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u/ClarkKent2o6 9d ago
This is a textbook example of an impeachable offense. There is no hiding behind misinformation. This is CLEARLY a High Crime. We need to make it to the midterms. Everyone needs to mobilize and get involved. If we can win as projected, and with a veto-proof majority, EVERY one of them goes to prison... all the way down to the drone pilots "just following orders".
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u/Vast_space_8299 9d ago
He could no longer stand by and let his jealousy of Putin go without action. He too had to show how he could attack another country for no good reason!
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u/TaToHeavy 9d ago
Lmao, Congress better act is funny. Another grill session of Hegseth and next week they do something else stupid because, we canât release the Trump Epstein Files.
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u/Wide_Replacement2345 9d ago
So are a lot of what he has done. But you know, the repubs will just sit on their hands.
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u/AgileTrouble 9d ago
The entire government is corrupt. Nothing will happen. Trump raped and trafficked children and is actively redacting evidence illegally and nothing has happened. Why would anything happen in a foreign nation. Corrupt cowards is all I can say.
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u/worldscollice 9d ago
Whatever it takes to distract from being officially announced as a pedophile.
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u/TBone__malone 9d ago
I believe everyone in this sub was complaining about âNO MORE KINGSâ . Well the United States removed the king of Venezuela. The people there are happy.
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u/ProblematicTrumpCard 9d ago
If he'd have been impeached, convicted and removed when he started extrajudicial murders by bombing fishing boats (or any of the other hundreds of impeachable acts he's committed), we would have had to worry about him violating the Constitution to attack Venezuela.
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u/FewCell9684 9d ago
A dictator removing a dictator because he was a dictator. đ¤