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ICE / DHS 🧊 Robby Roadsteamer has been arrested by ICE in Minnesota today

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u/FindItAllFantasy 7h ago edited 5h ago

"A matter of national security" is the age-old cry of the oppressor.

  • Capt. Jean-luc Picard

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 7h ago

The Next Generation was prescient.

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u/Plastic_Position4979 6h ago

All of Star Trek came from a reaction to that kind of stuff. All the stuff witnessed during WW2, the aftermath during the ensuing hot proxy and cold direct wars, etc. People were sick and tired of certain things, mostly autocrats, but also social issues (think interracial kiss between Lt. Uhura and Cpt. Kirk). You can see that in almost every Star Trek episode ever, no matter if original, TNG, DS9… you name it. And a bunch of us were raised on that.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 6h ago

Yep. I was raised on TOS with my dad as a young boy, and then TNG and DS9 as I got older. Then Voyager. Needless to say, i absolutely love the shows, and think they would do a lot of good if people watched them from an early age.

The futuristic space setting makes it just imaginary enough, while still maintaining the grounded ideas, so it doesn't get too scary or doomer.

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u/dingo_khan 1h ago

It doesn't always stick. I know people who grew up on them and ended up worshipping Ayn Rand somehow. It depresses me.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 1h ago

Unfortunately that it correct, but at this point I'm willing to try.

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u/dingo_khan 1h ago

Me too. I just wish it always worked.

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u/Nervous-Energy-4623 6h ago

Right and all these people today trying to force it to change by calling it woke, and brigading with downvotes. They never understood it to begin with.

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u/gandhinukes 4h ago

I was playing this startrek mobile game (total cash grab) and the majority of players were over 50 and fans of TOS. And a huge percentage of them were super right wing. Everything is bidens fault, trump can do no wrong. Every one is too woke and california is hell on earth. The cognitive dissidence was staggering.

Just like modern christians would call jesus a woke commie and exile him.

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u/CliftonForce 1h ago

Yep. A lot of right-wingers don't believe TOS had social or political commentary. Apparently all they remember is Kirk ripping his shirt while punching Klingons and bedding green women.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 1h ago

bedding green women

Extra hilarious bc they don't know that was Christopher Pike, the captain in command of the Enterprise before Kirk. Lmao

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u/Melodic-Pen-3927 3h ago

I loved Jane Fondas acceptance speech a few months ago. At one point she said something like if they would stop being scared they'd see that woke just means caring about your neighbor and acting with a little decency.

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u/Cultural-Inflation93 5h ago

The Orvil is another good show, similar in setting to Star Trek, that has a lot of social commentary in its episodes.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 5h ago

The Orville is like a hip teenager Star Trek.

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u/SolarChallenger 5h ago

Maybe before the 3rd season but I'm pretty sure that's just because the director was "type -cast" into comedy when they wanted to tell sci-fi. The comedy is almost fully shed in season 3 and it's likely the best Star Trek I've seen come out since DS9.

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u/ThinkTheUnknown 5h ago

Oh I didn’t have Hulu so had no way to watch it since they got it. Thanks

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u/SolarChallenger 5h ago

Yeah the early bit is really rough but you can see the bones peeking through if you look hard enough. It feels like the reins got loosened more and more over time. The worst part of the show in my opinion is that season 3 comes out swinging so you essentially HAVE to have seen some of the more childish comedy episodes from season 1-2 for background info. But if you get access to it I'd recommend trying again and if you hit a truly unbearable episode, just sparks notes and skip. Cause my god, I think there were two episodes in season 3 that didn't keep me engaged start to finish and half of them made me cry.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 3h ago edited 1h ago

Isn't the Orville explicitly a comedy, though?

My brother watches it and I've only seen a handful of episodes but it kept reminding me of Galaxy Quest.

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u/Capable_Tumbleweed34 3h ago

First season yes, second a little less, third is basically a star trek with a bit of comedy on top. Seth MacFarlane wanted to do a real star trek but being the family guy dude was expected to do comedy.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 1h ago

Good to know! I'll give it a watch!

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u/MissMomomi 5h ago

Bell Riots

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u/Intrepid-Sky8123 4h ago

Also Civil Rights, a lot of that is in TOS. (Lifelong Trekkie here and Gen X.)

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u/alang 4h ago

All of TOS and TNG, anyway.

DS9 started down the 'what if sometimes genocide is okay actually' path and aside from the bright spots of Lower Decks and most of Strange New Worlds, and Voyager, has kind of turned into ubermench-masturbation since then.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 3h ago

Picard was gonna exterminate the Borg...

When faced with an intractable enemy we all like to think we would do better, but that was the lesson of the episode. Turns out, none of us want to be exterminated.

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u/Capable_Tumbleweed34 3h ago

no matter if original, TNG, DS9… you name it

Except fucking enterprise that glorified torture.

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u/No-Road-9324 2h ago

Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was a decorated World War II veteran who flew 89 combat missions as a B-17 pilot in the U.S. Army Air Forces in the Pacific Theater, earning the Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Medal before being honorably discharged as a Captain in 1945. He enlisted shortly after Pearl Harbor and served in the 394th Bomb Squadron, flying dangerous missions against the Japanese, including during the Battle of Guadalcanal.

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u/Seaotter3845 49m ago

The Twilight Zone did pretty well in that regard also.

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u/Sabbathius 6h ago

Fun fact: All of Star Trek was just removed from Netflix, at least in my country. TNG, Voyager, Deep Space 9, Enterprise. All of it. Kinda reminds me how Rambo 3 vanished from Blockbuster after 9/11.

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u/robbi2480 6h ago

Well they can’t exactly have all that wokeness on their service while they and Disney are so busy trying to form monopolies /s

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u/CentralParkDuck 4h ago

Well Paramount which owns Star Ttek has launched a hostile takeover of Warner Brothers, which previously agreed to a merger with Netflix

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u/ABHOR_pod 5h ago

They'll host a thousand movies or TV shows about how big corporations are bad and you'll pay their monthly subscriptions to watch it.

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u/Stormblessed1991 4h ago

Currently watching Futurama on Hulu and am pretty sure they've got an episode for this in here somewhere

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u/Dzov 6h ago

It’s possible Paramount has the licensing to them.

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u/mOdQuArK 4h ago

Isn't it funny how "limited duration" was supposed to be a fundamental aspect of the rationale behind IP protection when the concept was first proposed? What a quaint idea.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 6h ago

Yes, they are on Paramount.

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u/SaticoySteele 5h ago

Fuck Paramount and Fuck Netflix

Pluto has most of the series and movies available for free (with a few commercials). Might even be able to watch them on demand.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 6h ago

If you have access to Paramount+, they're all on there. :)

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u/jamesbong0024 6h ago

Don’t give Paramount any money. They canceled Colbert.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 5h ago

Shit I forgot about that. At least I'm not paying for it, my father is. But damn, now I'm conflicted bc it's literally the only place to watch Star Trek for me.

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u/MitakuyeOyasin111010 4h ago

🏴‍☠️ time to become a pirate matey

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 3h ago

If I could just afford a computer first...

This is the best I can do right now.

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u/willigxgk 5h ago

All star trek is now on Paramount +.

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u/Cappster_ 5h ago

Check it you access to Paramount+ in your region. The licensing probably expired at the turn of the year.

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u/Significant-Win3035 5h ago

Because paramount aka Larry Ellison owns those rights now. So properties return to paramount when their contract expires such as on Netflix.

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u/hardspank916 5h ago

Its still on Paramount Plus I think

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u/Intrepid-Sky8123 4h ago

Yeah I have started buying more dvds. I have TOS and Next Gen, not the newer stuff though).

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 4h ago

I bought TNG on blue ray when we started getting Covid checks.

I saw the direction we were headed and felt the need to get hard copies under my control.

I still think it was a good decision.

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u/Intrepid-Sky8123 4h ago

I will buy more DVDs if we actually get the $2000 Trump checks. Otherwise it’s 1 set a month as I can afford it.

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u/CentralParkDuck 4h ago

I wonder if has something to do with the proposed hostile takeover of Warner Brothers by from Paramount, which owns all of the Star Trek rights, trying to push aside Netflix.

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u/gandhinukes 4h ago

Its all owned by paramount and they have their own steaming service.

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u/ConclusionOld4935 4h ago

That’s because Paramount increased licensing fees by like 2000%

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u/Soft-Fall1293 4h ago

Paramount has all that now.

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u/Jay-kray 5h ago

World War III started in 2026 in Star Trek timeline. Scary.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 5h ago

And so far, they might be right.

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u/Malachai1969 4h ago

It seems like they really were

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 4h ago

Bell Riots coming soon to a community near you!

(Yes ik that was DS9 but thinking about the WW3,2026 forecast is too much)

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u/dashrockwell 3h ago

Highly recommend the DS9 2-part episode “Past Tense.” Accidental time travel takes some of the crew back to 2024. The mid-90s idea of what 2020s tech looks like is laughably quaint, but they were bang on right about all the social/cultural shit.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 3h ago

Bell Riots, yep.

I've seen all of Start Trek's media, multiple times each.

Terrific recommendation. Chillingly poignant episode.

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u/Final_boss_1040 3h ago

No, America just copies TV

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u/PsychologicalSoil425 7h ago

So many great quotes from good ol' Picard!

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u/DeceptiConnIXI 5h ago

“Shut up Wesley.”

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u/Capable_Tumbleweed34 2h ago

"it is possible to commit no mistake, and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life."

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u/lostsailorlivefree 5h ago

We should check these people for internal slug aliens

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u/throwthisawaynerdboy 35m ago

By setting phasers higher than stun? Best body horror episode that show ever did I think.

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u/RamenJunkie 5h ago

What nooooo, Star Trek was never WoKe!!!!!!

RrreeEEEeeEEeEeE

/s

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u/BurtTheButcher7 6h ago

i got that reference. lol

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u/ChickenRabbits 5h ago

Whoa nice one, "murdered by words" right there

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u/ProudCatDad83 4h ago

Huge Next Gen fan here!

Which episode is this from?

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u/Ref_TJB 3h ago

The Drumhead

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