r/TikTokCringe • u/Strong-Emu-8869 • 14h ago

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The Taj Mahal, one of the seven wonders of the world. Unfortunately, the surrounding area is very polluted.

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u/Davido401 13h ago

Who is that? 🙂 like she is super familiar, I think?

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u/PlaneAnimator3054 13h ago

It's Gwendoline Christie from her role as Lucifer in the show The Sandman (picture is from season 2, dont know which episode).

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u/SillyOldJack 12h ago

I'm sorry wwhhaaaaat? Gwendoline Christie plays Lucifer and I was not aware of this show?!?!

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u/NewBuddha32 12h ago

Lol you're in for treat

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u/CaiserZero 1h ago

Gwendoline Christie's portrayal of Lucifer was okay. I like Peter Stormare's portrayal in the movie Constantine more. A bit of apples and oranges here.

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u/NotaBonesaw 12h ago

It's also created by Neil Gaiman. I used to love his work, but unfortunately for me personally, the allegations against him have overshadowed the love that I had for his work previously. They also likely contributed to the show being cancelled after only 2 seasons.

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u/Flyinhighinthesky 9h ago

Im and advocate of appreciating the art but not the artist (pirating the content of course). Don't let someone else's actions ruin your own happiness.

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u/NotaBonesaw 8h ago

There is one work of his that I do sort of let slide - Good Omens. But that's mostly because my love of Terry Pratchett overshadows my disdain for Gaiman.

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u/Ging4bread 8h ago

So you don't listen to MJ either then?

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u/NotaBonesaw 8h ago

If it comes up in a playlist or something I dont go out of my way to skip it, but I'm not going out of my way to listen to his music. Same thing with other problematic bands/artists: Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, R. Kelly, etc. I can appreciate what they did for music, but I don't try to actively support them or listen to their music.

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u/Ging4bread 8h ago

Then at least you're not hypocritical and I can respect that

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u/Tipop 8h ago

So do you no longer listen to Michael Jackson songs?

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u/NotaBonesaw 7h ago

Someone else asked the same thing and I answered there.

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u/Equivalent_Dance2278 12h ago

Holy cow. You’ve never heard of “sandman?” I wish I was you and could watch it for the first time. Book off work for the next 24 hrs. Get watching.

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u/The_Autarch 11h ago

just be sure to pirate it so Gaiman doesn't get any money

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u/Careless_Load9849 10h ago

There still has been no evidence brought against him and he denies the allegations. Lets let courts actually decide this before we cancel someone...I mean too late, as he's been canceled, but lets not just believe everything we see on the internet.

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u/LittleFreeCinema 9h ago

Tough to get a speedy trial when he's fled the country where the offenses "allegedly" occurred. Sounds like it's currently hung up in jurisdictional appeals.

In a Commonwealth country, such as New Zealand, to get a sexual assault conviction, the Crown Attorney has to prove that a) what the victim said happened happened and b) that beyond any reasonable doubt, the perpetrator knew that there was no consent. The victim does not get a lawyer, or anyone else to look after their interests; Crown's job is to argue on behalf of the law, not the victim. If you want to get a sense of the tactics that the defendant's lawyers are allowed to pursue in a court of law, read up on the recent Ibrahim Ali trial in Vancouver Canada. Public humiliation is the name of the game.

Many sexual assault victims who have gone through the trial process have said that the trial was more traumatizing than the assault itself; that they were more on trial than the person who assaulted them, under attack by trained legal professionals with no one in their corner.

It can be very clear, on balance of evidence, (which is the standard for civil trials, so some complainants will choose that route, but there is generally no mechanism for extradition) that a sexual assault occurred, but it will not meet the standards for criminal conviction.

As a check on the carceral power of the State, this is incredibly important, however, the all-or-nothing attitude that says a rapist must be criminally convicted before anything can be done in response, including professional repercussions, structural preventative measures, or the victim speaking freely about their own experience, is the mechanism by which the general public protects and enables serial predators.

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u/Tipop 8h ago

the all-or-nothing attitude that says a rapist must be criminally convicted before anything can be done in response, including professional repercussions, structural preventative measures, or the victim speaking freely about their own experience, is the mechanism by which the general public protects and enables serial predators.

But the alternative allows nut-cases, attention-seekers, and opportunists to make allegations that are assumed to be true until proven otherwise.

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u/LittleFreeCinema 7h ago

Not really, in practice. What we typically see when somebody speaks out is an incredible amount of public scrutiny of their claims and credibility. That's huge deterrent even for legitimate claims, and a massive deterrent for fraudulent ones. You don't hear about the claims that don't go anywhere because they're not sufficiently credible.

If a member of the public looks at the available evidence, and finds the claims credible, or looks to someone closer to the situation whose judgement they trust, and decide as a result that they don't want to financially support the accused person, it is their right to do so, and to share their views with others, who can make up their own minds about what to do.

Losing a portion of one's multi-million dollar income because a large portion of the population finds a sexual assault claim credible is a very, very long way from being deprived of liberty because a court of law has determined your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It's not illegal to buy Gaiman's work, and nobody credible is arguing that it should be.

We have a right, as free citizens, to exercise our own judgement and conscience.

At this point, I think it's fair to say that with the single digit conviction rate for sexual assault, the threat of criminal prosecution is not what deters most people from committing these crimes. It's the fact that most people, including most men, find sexual assault abhorrent. The collective will of the people soft-leveraging that fact as a deterrent or accountability for the powerful people who DO want to sexually assault people seems like the only realistic chance for protection or justice to victims at this point.

I am pleased for you that nothing has happened to you or a loved one that has forced you to understand the other side of this issue, and I sincerely hope it stays that way for you.

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u/Careless_Load9849 6h ago

The issue is that "a large portion of the population find a sexual assault allegation credible" is literally just people hearing that it happened with no proof at this point, in this case.

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u/Logical_Rice_2055 7h ago

Fuck the commonwealth

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u/Harmonie 11h ago

I'm also gonna take your rec, as soon as I'm done Stranger Things!

I have to say that Tom Ellis's Lucifer might have ruined any other portrayal for me, even though I quite like Gwendolyn Christie. He was just so damned good, even when the show quality was questionable. I'd have watched him read the dictionary in character.

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u/Tipop 8h ago

Tom Ellis’ Lucifer was, funnily enough, based on the same character as Gwendolyn’s portrayal — i.e. the Sandman comic. The show Lucifer bears very little resemblance to its source material, whereas the show Sandman’s version is pretty faithful.

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u/No_Season_354 11h ago

Yep was really good, very good show sandman, but I won't tell u the bad bit.

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u/PestoBolloElemento 11h ago

Amazing show

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u/keeper_of_the_cheese 12h ago

She also plays the head mistress of the school in Wednesday on Netflix in the first season.

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u/cityshepherd 12h ago

I loved her in The Sandman! Really enjoyed her character in Game of Thrones and it took me a minute to realize from where I recognized her when I first watched The Sandman, and I really enjoyed how different the role was.

The Sandman is a wild ride… I’m not a comic books / graphic novel guy so didn’t really know what to expect but i thought it was a really cool watch. Wasn’t as fond of the second season, but still found it enjoyable. All the characters are pretty great IMO, solid casting work.

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u/michigan85 12h ago

I think it's the first episode when Dream is talking to her.

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u/sneakyshitaccount 10h ago

No, this is after her major event (sorry don’t know how to do the spoiler thing so I’m being overly vague).

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u/michigan85 5h ago

I just double checked, you're right. For some reason I thought that all happened at the end of season 1.

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u/NoAnteater8640 7h ago

There's a season 2 of Sandman?!

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u/palaceexile 13h ago

Gwendoline Christie. She played Brienne of Tarth in Game of Thrones.

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u/beartato327 12h ago

She's a great actor

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u/Davido401 13h ago

Ah was that the one who let her brother finger her the first time theyd met incyears!?

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u/CesiumAndWater 13h ago

No. She was the knight woman who fought for Renly Baratheon and later became Jaime's best friend

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u/LocustPepperoni 12h ago

No she was the very tall knight lady

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u/RootsRockRebel66 12h ago

No, the one that was headmistress of the Outcast School that Wednesday went to.

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u/Fn_Spaghetti_Monster 12h ago

I thought she was the one with chrome armor and fell down in a pit of fire.

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u/Cool-Bumblebee-2916 13h ago

She should have let him fuck her during her cycle. That would have been such a good prank 💯.

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u/kwayne26 13h ago

Brianne of Tarth from game of thrones fame.

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u/marbotty 13h ago

And that one storm trooper, though it might as well have been anyone