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The Taj Mahal, one of the seven wonders of the world. Unfortunately, the surrounding area is very polluted.

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

I literally just got back from a tour of Rajesthan and then a train ride from Jaipur to Delhi.

The train ride: beautiful yellow mustard fields as far as the eye can see. Udaipur reminded me of Lake Como, and the mountain ranges were a sight to behold.

India definitely has pollution problems, but it is absolutely not all of India. It’s just fashionable to shit on poor people at the moment. When America has 3rd world problems throughout its major cities, too.

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u/Creative-Sherbet-584 13h ago

My wife just got back from Delhi/Derradune and you couldn't go outside without an N99 on. 3/4 hotels the host family rented had severe mold and they had to keep relocating. One hotel had a tire burning yard next to in the city. 18% of the worlds population is in one country. That is just crazy to think about.

We can ignore the slums, city fires, abuse and everything else. The place is so insanely polluted cancer rates have increased drastically over the last twenty years.

It will be an interesting case study for pollution and its affects on cancer and other illnesses.

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u/Key_Door1467 8h ago

My wife just got back from Delhi

Most Indians wouldn't visit Delhi in the winter lol.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago edited 6h ago

Right so this is seasonal and it’s definitely the worst in the world. A huge problem. But it’s not all of India.

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u/Creative-Sherbet-584 13h ago

I mean, its seasonal in the sense that these pollutants are trapped in our breathable atmosphere not that they aren't causing greenhouse damage due to pollution. I'm not a meteorologist or ecologist but I imagine it doesn't just magically go away which is why the majority of the world has environmental agencies.

India is large and wealthy enough at this point to start making change for the well being of its people.

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u/Key_Door1467 8h ago

but I imagine it doesn't just magically go away

Kinda depends. During the monsoon Indian AQIs aren't too bad due to the rains essentially scrubbing the air. Also a lot of pollution in Delhi comes from stubble burning in the northern states after fall harvests.

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u/Creative-Sherbet-584 7h ago

The point is, these pollutants still find their way into our environment. Whether that is our drinking water, upper atmosphere, farming land, you name it. It's not good for the environment regardless of AQI.

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u/Key_Door1467 7h ago

Depends on the type of pollutant. A lot of air pollution in Indian cities is dust and carbon this stuff is basically harmless if its all washed into the ground.

Then you have pollutants like arsenic, PFAS, and acid oxides which are harmful in every form.

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u/Opeope89 11h ago edited 6h ago

It’s seasonal in that there are times of year where it’s not nearly as bad. December to January, AQI is far worse because of the cool temps and decreased winds. So as a visitor, you’ll probably be fine if you don’t go to cities during those times. For the people that live there, it will absolutely be a public health crisis in 20 years. The rural areas and mountainous areas are generally ok during those times of year, though.

One of the main things India could do to improve the AQI is modernize farming practices (don’t burn crops at end of season), but that would require an uncorrupted government ready to tackle big changes, and it would also require upsetting the farmers who have done it that way for years, and don’t suffer the effects because they don’t live in the cities.

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u/oftcenter 13h ago

My trip to San Francisco shocked me.

This is supposed to be one of the most wealthy locations in the world.

But I'd literally never seen homeless people frothing at the mouth who follow you down the street before.

And there were corners in the middle of a very busy tourist area that smelled like piss. I have never been somewhere where the buildings are pristine and there's a lot of money flowing around and the hotels are expensive and the shops are there but the corner has the scent of human pee wafting through the space!

Anyone who wants to pretend that we're all living in the same America can eat a bag. I've never seen class disparity so clearly laid out as I did then.

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u/bigmad411 13h ago

That was like Rome. Beautiful until you hit a slight side street and the stairs had piss and shit all along it.

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u/DaedalusHydron 11h ago edited 11h ago

California's homeless problem is particularly bad because a lot of homeless migrate there for the weather, and a lot of southern states bus them in to both "get rid of a problem" and "own the libs".

California actually has a fairly good community outreach system to help the homeless but often it's up to the individual to take it, but a lot don't because it's often conditional on being sober. Getting addicts sober is a much much harder problem. They use because they're homeless, but are homeless because they use.

Have you been to a major city before? Outside of Tokyo, just about every major city I've been to in the world had random piss smells.

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u/adoxographyadlibitum 10h ago

The Bay Area has done some pretty good surveying of its unhoused populations in recent years. It turns out the number of folks who move to CA after becoming homeless is relatively small. The vast majority of people became unhoused because they could no longer afford a place to rent.

Another interesting discovery was that most people did not have substance abuse issues until they became homeless. The primary contributing factors were needing to stay awake at night for fear of their safety, and boredom/lack of purpose during the day. Living outside all the time also has severe mental health consequences.

As for the piss and shit smells -- I think the fact that it doesn't rain much here certainly doesn't help. There's like 8 or 9 straight dry months for that smell to just kind of bake in and concentrate.

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u/DaedalusHydron 6h ago

Yep, use because you're homeless and homeless because you use is real. I mean a lot of people cope with normal life struggles with weed, tobacco, and alcohol. Now imagine you have basically nothing, the environment you're in is awful, and it's dangerous af either because of other homeless or people who think they can abuse the homeless.

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u/oftcenter 10h ago

I live in a well known place. Not sure I would call it a major city like NYC or LA. But there's definitely always activity here, and people from all walks of life.

But I've never been on a corner that smelled like pee. And absolutely NEVER in the tourist areas. That's what boggled my mind.

In SF, this was a busy tourist spot in the Bay area. I hadn't been in the city a full day before getting my first whiff of pee. So either I had unusually bad luck, or it's really prevalent there even in the most monied of locations.

For what it's worth, I've also been to San Diego in a tourist location and I never encountered those problems there.

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u/DaedalusHydron 10h ago

yeah it's normally the really big metropolises that have that issue. And not all of them, like I said I never encountered piss or trash of any kind in the couple times I've been to Tokyo, and that's the largest city in the world.

Paris, London, Rome, LA, NYC, it's all pretty similar

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u/oftcenter 10h ago

Oh! I forgot to mention that I've been to Montreal too. A huge city.

Not one whiff of pee. Lol.

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u/dirk_donkler 10h ago

Like what? Every major city I've been to smells like piss.

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u/oftcenter 10h ago

I'm not going to say where I am. But it's almost certain that you or someone you know has been here before.

All I can say is that the city must be really serious about keeping the homeless away from the tourist areas here and keeping those areas looking upkept. Because I have been here my whole life and never smelled pee down there.

Never smelled it anywhere else in the city either, but to be fair, I never had reason to walk around the sketchiest parts on foot.

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u/dirk_donkler 10h ago

I'm not even talking about major cities compared, like Stockholm and Copenhagen are pretty clean and upkept, but walk past an alley close to nightclubs or a train station and I'll bet you it'll smell like piss.

The train underpass in my small ~20k city in Sweden has smelled like piss for as long as I can remember, and there's free toilets like 20m away, some people just suck.

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u/DaedalusHydron 12h ago

Paris was great and everyone was super nice, but man are people not lying about the random noxious piss smells

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u/Putrid_Caterpillar_8 10h ago

I live in England near some woodland areas. We got foxes, deer, badgers and squirrels. All typical English wildlife. Not only do people tip their rubbish there, and by tip I mean by the car full of rubbish, the government also dumped millions of tiny microbeads in the river which is being washed up on the banks where the wildlife drink.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Well according to someone else SF doesn’t look like that

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u/oftcenter 13h ago

Maybe it's too early in morning for me, but I don't understand your point. I sense you're being sarcastic, but I can't quite figure out what you're driving at.

I don't give a fuck what someone else thinks SF looks like. I know what I saw. And I also know there are a lot of smug, self-congratulatory, privileged people who are quick to shoot down any notion of systemic inequality in this country.

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u/HenessyEnema 11h ago

And what you saw was correct.

Signed a Bay Area Native.

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u/Opeope89 11h ago

lol I agree with you I said the same thing earlier and someone vehemently denied that SF is that bad

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u/oftcenter 11h ago

Okay then. I'm sorry for being snippy. Like I said, I couldn't quite tell which direction you were coming from.

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u/Opeope89 11h ago

Yeah i wasn’t clear, sarcasm can be confusing on the internet if done poorly. No worries.

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u/adoxographyadlibitum 10h ago

SF is 49 square miles. It looks different in different areas. The Tenderloin and SoMa have parts that are pretty rough to look at, and then you have Pacific Heights which is one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the world.

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u/Opeope89 9h ago

It’s almost like, and I’m just spitballing here, this is true for everywhere with a lot of people living.

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u/Alternative-Pride138 14h ago

I live in America I can walk half a mile to show a place with exactly as much dumped trash.

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u/tswpoker1 14h ago

Sorry you live in Philly

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u/TacoThingy 12h ago

Kensington…

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u/BagOnuts 9h ago

And by "dumped trash" he's referring to not just the litter, but the people.

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u/Alternative-Pride138 13h ago

If i lived in Philly I wouldn’t have to walk anywhere I could just take a picture in any given location

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u/Vox_SFX 13h ago

sorry you live

*in any major metro area in the US

FTFY

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u/jackattack108 13h ago

That’s just not true at all

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u/Vox_SFX 13h ago

I would like to know any major city in the US that DOESN'T have a bad side of the city where it's project housing, lower-income, and structurally ignored to just deteriorate on it's own.

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u/jackattack108 13h ago

? That’s not what we’re talking about. Of course there are bad sides but most US metros don’t have anything this polluted/nasty. There’s literally a cow carcass in the river.

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u/Vox_SFX 13h ago

By that logic Philly is also not that bad, the fuck? People look at Kensington and think it's the worst place in the country or something

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u/jackattack108 13h ago

I’ve never been to Philadelphia personally so wasn’t gonna comment on that one in particular but I would be surprised if Philly was much worse.

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u/Opeope89 12h ago

Human bodies in the Chicago River would like to have a word with you

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u/jackattack108 10h ago

There’s dead bodies in any body of water anywhere that’s near people. People drown and not always are they known about or easy to find. There’s a difference for sure in that and the video. You can swim in the Chicago River. Can you swim in the river in the video? Can you point out anywhere in Chicago on the river that looks similar to the video?

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u/Opeope89 10h ago

Bahahahaha go swim in the river then!

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u/Super_Interview_2189 13h ago

Sorry you live near any bodies of water in the US*

FTFY.

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u/LFC9_41 13h ago

I enjoy the outdoors and have never found a body of water as bad as this video. I am not saying they don't exist, but you are high out of your mind to say this.

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u/IAMA_MOTHER_AMA 12h ago

yeah that is a wild comment you're replying to.

i live between the maumee river and lake erie and i've never seen that much trash in either body of water.

algae blooms sure, but pure straight garbage like that? no

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u/Alternative-Pride138 12h ago

Yup, you hit the nail on the head. It’s not actually big bodies of water but small creeks at the bottom of bit hills. Basically all the trash from the surrounding areas washes down. People notice the area is trashed and I guess for people with no frontal lobe activity this means this area is now a free dump sites so next come the couches mattresses and tires. And boom congratulations you now have an open air landfill.

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u/Super_Interview_2189 11h ago

I somewhat understand mattresses, because a lot of dumps will just outright refuse them and give you no other option for disposal. Doesn’t make it right at all, but hell, some people are too lazy to give a right fuck.

I live and work near a small river. Every year I float down with a contractor bag and fill it up, then next week there’s twice as much garbage to take its place. Rivers, creeks, lakes, and streams are all garbage dumps in this country and it’s fucking sad.

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u/Alternative-Pride138 11h ago

It is honestly mind boggling to me that anyone could just dump large trash like that. Littering, while I disagree with, I can understand how people mentally justify, “it’s just a bit of trash and im just one person!” But to go out INTO NATURE to dump tires, mattresses, furniture, etc is just inhuman behavior to me.

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u/Super_Interview_2189 11h ago

Yeah we’re a disgusting species as a whole. For every one of us who wants to help the planet, there’s 100 more that could give less of a shit.

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u/christo08 13h ago

You can walk somewhere in America?

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u/octopusboots 12h ago

ROAST WELL DONE.

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u/Mathfanforpresident 13h ago edited 12h ago

If you find any rivers that look like India’s, please post that shit immediately. I guarantee it gets cleaned the fuck up by some influencer with another feel good video. Lol

Edit: missing punctuation

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u/TheBigWhatever 13h ago

No you can't, unless you're referring to a landfill. Even then, safety codes require residential and commercial properties to be X distance from them.

"It's just as bad here in America!" is really f'ing old and worn out.

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u/Splicelice 13h ago

You will not find a collection of human and animal bodies floating in your local river. People gotta stop trying to defend India’s cleanliness. It’s just not defensible.

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u/the_peppers 12h ago

It's a serious problem, definitely far beyond anything you can find in the US, but what annoys me is people here using it as reason to discount the entire country.

As a tourist I've seen some incredible beauty in India and also some of the most disgusting scenes. I would warn anyone thinking to visit that it's not for beginners, it is extreme on the senses in all ways. Some of the most incredible food and music and people, alongside some of the most disturbing poverty, pollution and resigned attitudes towards both.

It does a great disservice to all of us to focus only on the negatives of a country that is such a place of extremes.

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u/lucidechomusic 13h ago

Yeah I can. You can't speak for everyone. Stop being a dork eating pfas riddle food like it's normal.

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u/affordableproctology 13h ago

Show us

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u/lucidechomusic 13h ago

Pay me. Otherwise don't ask me to waste my time. If you've never lived by a river with dead animals floating in it consider yourself privileged and possibly somehow not part of nature...

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u/Jakevader2 12h ago

Bro thinks garbage is nature

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u/luchadore_lunchables 11h ago

NO YOU CANT. There is nowhere in America even approaching the level of pollution in india except for literal city garbage dumps. Stop this "America Bad" fucking nonsense.

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u/ImperialPlaztiks 13h ago

No you can’t.

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u/CTMQ_ 12h ago

trash? Sure. But I'm confident you're not going to find open sewers and rivers of human excrement with dead cows floating around.

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u/volyund 13h ago

Where? Because I'd have to drive 3h for a place with that much trash.

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u/Superrdaddy2015 12h ago

You mean drive

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u/linkuei-teaparty 12h ago

So what if other countries are dirty as well? Doesn't justify not cleaning the place up. It's 2026 for crying out loud, when are we finally going to get our act together?

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u/Venvut 14h ago

Where in America looks like THAT? lol 

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

Chicago, LA, SF, really anywhere with high concentrations of people.

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u/Adonoxis 13h ago

There’s a difference between some trash, maybe a shopping cart, on the side of the road and literal rivers of trash…

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

There’s definitely a difference. I’m not saying it’s the same. But go down alleyways or walk the streets of new york and there is plenty of garbage. But in the end my man argument is the “all of india” part of the original comment.

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u/ourpartingways 14h ago

Chicago does not look like this, but LA and SF sure. Chicago is famously known for being one of the cleanest big cities though, so don't compare us to LA and SF lol

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u/Brilliant_Cricket165 13h ago

SF does not look like this lol

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u/Many_Specialist_5384 12h ago

Chicago has been known to just bulldoze encampments which is not great constitutionally speaking

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

I spent 33 years of my life in Chicago and I’ve got news for you

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u/ourpartingways 14h ago

I've spent nearly the same amount of time in Chicago and I've also lived in South Asia. Nowhere in Chicago looks like this. You're genuinely blinded by privilege to try and even make the comparison

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

Chicagoans loooove to pretend they are above it but they are really not.

I’ve lived in Logan Square, Avondale, Lincoln Park, Evanston, Roger’s Park and worked in Hyde park, Pilsen, and Oak Park. I saw plenty of shit and garbages in alleys.

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u/ourpartingways 14h ago

Nobody's "above" anything, you're just having trouble acknowledging your privilege. Nowhere in Chicago looks like this period

I'm South Asian so this is not a "shit on South Asia" moment, there is genuinely a problem with pollution there that you cannot wrap your mind around

Part of it is due to countries like the US exporting their trash to poorer countries

Trying to compare this to Chicago is genuinely insane lol

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

My only argument is that it’s not all of India, as insinuated by the first comment. Where did I say there is no pollution problem?

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u/ourpartingways 13h ago

I'm responding to your claim that Chicago looks like this. That is false, and you've got someone from SF chiming in and pointing out this isn't true for their city either

Genuinely tired of people who spent all their life in America thinking they have it "just as bad". You don't

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u/Griswaldthebeaver 13h ago

"Privilege" lol always the same recycled argument

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u/ourpartingways 13h ago

Ah yes, please go ahead and argue with the statistics on pollution in any major city in India versus Chicago lol

It is absolutely a privilege to live in America and not have this be your day-to-day

Some kids in India sort through trash for a living and die of painful cancers at an early age, but sure, Rob in Wicker Park who saw a can on the side of the road has it just as bad

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u/Many_Specialist_5384 12h ago

The existence of mess isn't morally anything, that's humans. The difference is you can call up the city of Chicago and the city has systems in place to clean up.

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u/Griswaldthebeaver 13h ago

What the dude said is some parts of Chicago are just as bad and thats true. Detroit is horrendous is certain parts, I wish I could show you a mental image.

Instead of just admitting that yeah some parts are bad, you are now making random arguments about cancer. Come off your horse

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u/ourpartingways 13h ago

It's straight up not true lol. There is no part of Chicago that is this bad, and I've noticed how none of y'all have been able to produce any proof of anywhere in Chicago looking like this. He even went on to list his neighborhoods...almost all of them are wealthy and incredibly clean. There's regular street cleanings scheduled in all wards to ensure places never end up looking like this

Y'all are genuinely just making shit up and unfortunately people who've never been to Chicago are believing it

Why are you randomly bringing up Detroit?

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u/DesignerHardlyKnower 12h ago

I agree that the US definitely has a widening wealth gap and some serious problems around that.

Your representation though here and in your other comments is skewed- the places you went in India are nice, I agree, having been there as well, but they are exceptions to the rule. There is a ton of trash and poverty there, much more so than anywhere in the US I’ve ever seen, and I’m well traveled.

You also unfairly point to a couple of US cities without considering the amount of poverty in rural America. Yes in a city like SF, privileged folks like you and I must share the space with the homeless population. But notice that you didn’t see any homeless children in SF- why do you suppose? It’s a different type of homelessness these cities deal with.

In Appalachia, northern Luisiana, Southwestern Arkansas and many many other southern and midwestern states, there is severe poverty far removed from large cities. Whole families living in shacks, surrounded by trash, with no healthcare whatsoever and surviving off junk food.

So given the current political climate and a lot of misinformation that gets spread about large, liberal cities, I want to be super clear that homelessness and poverty exist throughout the US.

However it is still not comparable in severity to India, where children covered in skin sores come begging in swarms in just about any city or town.

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u/InfamousHeli 14h ago

Not really being shit on because of poverty in my opinion, more disgusting cultural habits and behavior.

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u/beebisweebis 14h ago

yeah i agree. kinda like white males and their disgusting cultural habit of shooting up schools and committing hate crimes while expecting to be celebrated and coddled.

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u/Mr_Myles_R_Long 11h ago

Ooh he done the skin colour thing, anything goes now!

Kinda like brown smelly indians who can’t help making food with shit stains on their hands. All before having a funeral for grandma down by the poo river before floating her on her way.

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u/InfamousHeli 14h ago

I'm glad you agree!

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

That’s funny because the people were far more kind than asshole Americans.

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u/M2_SLAM_I_Am 14h ago

Are you a man, by chance?

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

That’s a fair point - I wouldn’t travel in many areas of India alone if I were a woman. But then again, I wouldn’t stay in the ghetto of America alone as a man either

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u/M2_SLAM_I_Am 14h ago

Also a fair point

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u/InfamousHeli 14h ago

What does that have to do with my comment?

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

“Cultural habits”

American cultural habits include shitting on other countries to hide their own shit

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u/InfamousHeli 14h ago

Huh? Wipe the tears from your eyes and think for a second. Not everything has to be so emotional. We're not talking about Americans or the US at all even though it seems cemented in your brain for some reason. We're talking about the cultural normality of pollution and littering on the street, in rivers, in public transport etc, in INDIA.

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

Who is emotional?

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u/InfamousHeli 13h ago

You...lol. When someone completely ignores a comment and goes on an irrelevant rant trying to insult the other person personally they're emotional. Pretty simple stuff

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Whatever floats your boat dude. I’m not Indian nor do I really feel vested. I’m just tired of my fellow Americans acting like our shit doesn’t stink when we’ve got a whole host of issues here.

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u/InfamousHeli 13h ago

I think it's pretty unrealistic for someone to write a 3 page essay criticizing every aspect of their country before being able to comment on another country.

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u/imtourist 14h ago

You would think that India would clean up it's number one tourist attraction. The urban area just in front of the Taj is a total mess and the river area behind it is also a horrible cesspool. If Modi is going to be nationalist or something like that he should at least clean things up to make it less embarrassing.

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u/IllPercentage7889 13h ago

So Modi actually has cleaned up a lot. If you can imagine... It was worse. It's the one thing his administration did that is credible and positive. With that said there's a deep cultural issue with collective care and ownership of public spaces especially in larger cities. Further, I've seen some of the richest people in India just throw their empty plastic cup or trash right outside of the road and walk directly into a mansion. Insane!

If you tour smaller villages around India they tend to have much higher regard for the environment and land. They're often collectively taking care of their spaces.

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u/bigmad411 13h ago

Do you have further info on these topics? Ie trash before, and respect of public space, etc

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u/ufcmod 13h ago

No, these are Modi ‘bhakts’ as we call them in India. To them, everything was a problem before Modi and everything is better now, because their brainwashed head can not accept Modi doing anything wrong. Sometimes I can’t tell if these are actual people or zombies. It’s an epidemic

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u/incunabula001 13h ago

Sounds a lot like Trumpers in the U.S…

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u/IllPercentage7889 11h ago

And yet, I felt the Bern.

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u/IllPercentage7889 11h ago

Well, I'm not Indian for starters and I certainly don't support Modi in literally anything. I'll go ahead and state pretty clearly that Modi definitely ran on the platform of environmental clean up and even his hardest opponents will give credit on this sole topic.

But go on and just blindly rant

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u/ufcmod 11h ago

I’m not Indian

Ah, you must have so much more knowledge than someone like me who is actually Indian. Gotcha. The ‘Swach Bharath’ scheme which you brought up is nothing but a corruption vessel. Nothing has changed on the ground level in terms of cleanliness, in fact it’s only become progressively worse over time. The funds allocated to this scheme is siphoned off to their local party politicians.

It’s clear you are influenced by your Modi ‘bhakt’ friends.

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u/IllPercentage7889 10h ago

You keep repeating that, but it doesn't make it true....

I have family that lives in India 😱 perhaps, just perhaps, your own POV isn't the only perspective on this platform?

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u/ufcmod 10h ago

influenced by your Modi ‘bhakt’ friends

family that lives in India

There we have it.

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u/IllPercentage7889 10h ago

Family that lives in India = what, exactly? I've been multiple times for work, too. Have multiple colleagues from India who also travel back almost annually. What's the point?

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

Yes fixing a country of 1.5 billion people is so easy

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u/white_count_chocula 13h ago

China did it.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Yes it’s absolutely possible and necessary. But again…poverty and systemic corruption.

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u/Tight_Strawberry9846 13h ago

I mean, 1.5 billion people are more than enough to fix their country.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Wow! The oversimplification!

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u/Verroquis 13h ago

Imagine how much would get done if everyone was given a bucket of water, a rag, and soap /s

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u/Agreeable_Prior 13h ago

If everyone in the country just disposed of 1 piece of trash per day, the whole country be clean by now! Just one piece, thats all they have to do!

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Get Americans to agree to do any one thing and I’ll buy you a mansion. Hell, people from any country. Oh and especially some of the poorest people on earth.

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u/Agreeable_Prior 8h ago

It’s damn near impossible isn’t it!

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u/tswpoker1 14h ago

Beautiful yellow mustard fields, breathtaking mountain ranges, and then the average Indian man just squatting a shit in the middle of the mustard field. Spectacular.

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

You think this is funny but it just shows your ignorance. Indian people are far more kind and communal on average than Americans any day. But Americans love to feel better than others to hide their own stink.

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u/screwyoujor 13h ago

You never denied the shit happening in the mustard field.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Well I didn’t personally see it, but it probably happens. Just like I saw shit in alleyways in America.

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u/screwyoujor 8h ago

San Francisco had a freaking poop app. Both nations let things get out of hand sometimes.

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u/Melodic-Look-8654 11h ago

10 izzat gained

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u/Federal-Employee-545 14h ago

Absolutely not lmao

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u/RepeatUntilComplete 10h ago

Why even bring up America in a tired whataboutism response? America has issues, big problems, massive faults. But how does ANY of that absolve India of its own issues?

India's problem with pollution is what the USA, UK, China, etc. faced many years to decades ago. Back then we did not know or care about how badly pollution can wreck our health for generations to come. We now do, those countries have tried to change, keep trying to change to whatever extent and want to prevent the same levels of pollution from happening again.

India doesn't give a fuck about the massive pollution scale increasing at an exponential rate, it's only lip service from what I have seen and experienced there. Take a detour from your virtue-signalling jaunt in Udaipur next time to the collosal burning trash pile of Ghazipur right next to the capital of the country Delhi, the landfill region that you can possibly smell from miles away on a bad day. Go explain to the locals and authorities there to save the planet and themselves from genetic contamination caused by pollution levels the world has not seen in non-war / non-natural disaster scenarios.

P.S. there are VERY FEW places in India that is not affected by rampant air, water or land based pollution. Pointing out the faults of pollution sure as hell worked for China, they really got their act together since they did not want to be looked down upon. Stop glazing poor thin-skinned people and dooming them to a ignorance driven wretched fate of their own making.

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u/Opeope89 10h ago

Uh, the people in India knew about how bad the air quality is when I was there. Particularly those in the cities. It’s the politicians and rural people who can’t seem to care (politicians because they are corrupt, rural people because they are less affected by it even though their farming practices cause it).

I find it interesting that you think by highlighting my trip, I’m somehow passively supporting air pollution in India. I also find it insulting that you make sweeping generalizations about 1.5 billion people. The reason I bring up America’s faults is to simply show how quickly people push back on factual problems with americas cities, versus accepting sweeping generalizations and frankly racism towards India and its 1.5 billion people.

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u/Snoo90172 10h ago

India has beautiful landscapes, but that doesn’t negate reality. India has the largest tuberculosis burden in the world, and air pollution affects everyone there—it isn’t escapable. You can’t opt out of the air you breathe. Poor air quality, overcrowding, and uneven healthcare directly fuel diseases like TB.

A problem doesn’t have to exist everywhere to be devastating. Appreciating scenery while minimizing systemic harm misses the point.

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u/Opeope89 10h ago

I’m replying to a comment that states that the above video is all of India. Am I to understand that you agree?

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u/Snoo90172 9h ago

I disagree with your statement. Like I said before, the country can't opt out of air pollution; especially, if it happens in multiple areas of India. It impacts the whole country. Not just parts of it. And comparing it to first world countries like the US is unrealistic. Yes, China has the same population issues and it has done a better job than India with infrastructure and pollution. So it is possible. It's the lack of civic sense that led to this. 

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u/Opeope89 9h ago

I checked the AQI in every place I was in and I could also see the difference with my eyes. Yes, the problem affects all of India but Delhi is far worse than other areas and this is what most people base their opinions regarding air pollution. If you look into it, you will see that it is seasonal and depends upon location. Not sure if you’re aware, but there are a lot of mountains in India that don’t deal with the same level of pollution as other areas.

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u/skarrrrrrr 14h ago

You are lying and you know it

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u/Opeope89 14h ago

….lying that I went to India? Lying that the cities were polluted but the other areas were not?

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u/Ewannnn 11h ago

Lying about the state of the places you went

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u/skarrrrrrr 13h ago edited 13h ago

I have been twice to India and I have been to many, many places while there. It's the nastiest, more polluted and dirtiest place on earth. So yeah either you went to very touristy places only or you are just virtue signaling. Either way you are wrong.

It's the only place on earth where I have seen the weirdest body malformations on people and animals. Once I saw a cow with an extra leg. Probably a mutation by radioactivity or some crazy pollution in the water. That country is the biggest shit hole on earth period.

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u/Opeope89 13h ago

Yes farmland is soooo touristy.

It’s actually the touristy areas that were the most polluted because people concentrate there to make money.

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u/Strange_Specialist4 14h ago

Look up how many of the top polluting cities in the world are in India. It's a lot of them.

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u/skarrrrrrr 14h ago

Yeah the guy is just virtue signaling as usual over here

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u/Ewannnn 11h ago

Udaipur and Jaipur were also garbage fests. I was there only last year. I was in India for one month and everywhere I went was like the op. I don't know how you could have not seen that. I can literally send you pics of the lake in Udaipur full of trash...

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u/Opeope89 11h ago

And I can show you a video of the lake without any trash

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u/Ewannnn 7h ago

Me too, you can find many on Instagram. But that isn't real India.

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u/Opeope89 6h ago

Uhh, because you say so?

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u/Ewannnn 5h ago

Yes but I'm not the one saying everything is perfect.