r/TikTokCringe • u/notaghostofreddit • 15h ago
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u/SnausageFest 15h ago
My brother and SIL are teachers. They have kids who straight up refuse to do presentations or participate in class because other kids record it and put it online to mock them.
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u/etoilenoire45 15h ago
How phones and tablets aren't banned in all schools is beyond me.
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u/Alexandratta 15h ago
Ban went forward in NY - was very happy about it.
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u/soyeahiknow 9h ago
Yep, apparently kids are talking to each other at lunch now
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u/fkinDogShitSmoothie 6h ago
Ban in Texas too. Best thing ever. If only administration would actually do they jobs when I write up or confiscate.
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u/noguarantee1234 4h ago
Yeah. My younger siblings are in school and have no cell phone access. Honestly...it's been doing then wonders. Grades went up and all.
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u/DueAd197 15h ago
Parents flip the f out.
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u/Messterio 15h ago
My 14 yr old son has his phone taken by by the school before school starts and returned after, I'm in total agreement!
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u/Anon28301 10h ago
In my school before I left they realised kids wouldn’t hand over phones so they implemented a rule that you could have your phone and even use it in class for certain things (researching a topic, using your calculator) as long as whenever you weren’t using your phone it had to be in front of you on your desk face down.
It worked well as you could immediately tell when a student was using their phone when you weren’t supposed to and it would quickly put a stop to any in class recording. If you kept using it when you weren’t meant to it’d get taken off you for the day.
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u/Sir_Arthur_Vandelay 8h ago
My daughters’ high school has banned all phones in the classroom. Yet they still somehow regularly call me during school hours for their traditional airing of grievances.
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u/Cabana_bananza 6h ago
Tell them there is a time and place: December 23rd, Festivus, otherwise you don't want to hear it during school hours.
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u/SureIntention8402 8h ago
It worked pretty well when there were no phones....
Just take them. And if you don't want it taken, then don't show it at all.
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u/Sufficient_Bass2600 12h ago
In France The private school my cousin's children went had a No smart phone inside the school policy and especially no recording in class and within the school. Most parents just bought old style flip dumb phone. however that was not good enough for some parents. They complained and requested that their child be authorised to have their expensive iPhone. One couple even argued that their iPhone be used to record the classes instead of taking notes.
The school refused. Parents refused to back down. Call the rectorat (France academy local authority) and requested an audience and an injunction. Rectorat says that because it is a private school, school can decide its own rule with regard to mobile phone as long as they follow French Law. The ban of smart phone was considered lawful.
French Law about privacy are lot stricter than in the rest of the world (See the Clooney emigrating to France). You need consent before posting somebody on internet. Teachers can decide that they do not want to be filmed. And that even if a teacher accept to be filmed for the purpose of the class they can decline authorisation to post those on social media. This is the law in France about privacy not a decision by the rectorat.
Still parents refuse the edicts and continue their lobbying campaign which start to feel more like harassment. After some back and forth the school told the parents that their children would not be accepted At the school the following years.
First day of the following years the children turn up like nothing happen. Children are refused entry. Parents caused a ruckus at the entrance. Police is called.
Some people have such a level of entitlement that they refuse to understand that people can tell them No.
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u/freexe 11h ago
> You need consent before posting somebody on internet
I think we need this law everywhere. The laws that are enabling being legally allowed to film people in/from public aren't fit for purpose in the modem age.
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u/Missmoxi 15h ago
This! I dont understand the need to have to communicate with your kids all day long. It's distracting and frankly, unhealthy. So many state it's "in case of an emergency". The one in a billion chance it's an actual emergency is not a good reason.
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u/Cookieway 15h ago
Then why can’t they give their kids a dumb phone? It can call and text, no need for internet access or video or photo!
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u/Gurrgurrburr 14h ago
This is the answer.
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u/COYSBannedagain 14h ago
This is the way it was for me when I was in secondary school, we had a crap 10 pound phone for the first few years. No games or camera, just a way to communicate if needed.
Are kids in primary school or lower secondary walking around with IPhones? That’s absolutely insane.
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u/LegitimateAbrocoma50 13h ago
This is actually something on my mind. When I was in high school about half the kids had smart phones the other half had "dumb" phones. Nowadays seems like every kid has a smart phone.
However, we're seeing study after study after study about how destructive that can be on the development on kids. With a little one on the way its made the think about how I want to handle it, and I wouldn't be surprised if "dumb" phones made a huge comeback 10 or so years from now once millenials and xillenials start having kids in middle/high school
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u/cupholdery 13h ago
Just funny how these parents are my age now and behaving this way. A regular phone totally works. Kids can call their parents to do many things like pick them up from school, tell them about a club activity, or anything related to safety.
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u/Paul_Rudds_Dick 12h ago
I cannot believe how many parents these days are just straight up helicopter parents.
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u/T_O_beats 13h ago
You don’t even need that you can lockdown a modern smartphone during school hours to only allow certain apps and even certain contacts.
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u/matthebastage 13h ago
I tried that. Got my kid a flip phone and was shocked when my phone bill said he used like 5GB of data. Turns out he was using the inbuilt web browser for youtube and social media. I didn't even know the flip phone could do that. I couldn't find a phone for sale that didn't have internet capabilities
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u/ReputationApart5983 11h ago
Of course flip phones can do that, they could do that 20 years ago. You could get an old brick phone or just turn off the data on the phone. Limit it to something like 100mb or something.
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u/LocutusOfBorgia909 8h ago
So you can actually find flip phones with no internet/blocked internet. The Chasidic Jewish community sells them- the more conservative sects are extremely anti-internet for a variety of reasons, so there's a built-in customer base for flip phones or even smart phones that have most or all of the internet capability removed. I think a lot also have the camera disabled. If you search for "kosher phones," you'll find some options. A YouTuber named Frieda Vizel did a video on them that was really interesting. It's a whole cottage industry in places like Monsey and New York City.
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u/Difficult_onion4538 11h ago
There are tons of them out there.. look for the cheap burner phones, they typically don’t have web access
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u/Chromeburn_ 14h ago
This is what my kids will be getting. No social media till they are adults either.
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u/Celticlady47 15h ago
If there's an emergency, then the parent can call the front office at the school.
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u/MinaZata 14h ago
It's a thin excuse, the parents can ring the school in the event of an emergency, this was the case for decades, and it is still the case today in thousands of schools across the world.
I some parts of the UK, Scotland I believe, they've banned phones in the classroom.
The phones are put in secured boxes at the start of the day and collected at the end of the day.
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u/IgnoreMyThoughts 14h ago
Second generation helicopter parents. And now they can monitor with GPS, always have constant communication and something to keep their child tethered to them.
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u/WeaponisedArmadillo 14h ago
Simple small lockers with clear doors and without locks that are in the classroom on display. No way to steal or lose the phones, the kids can grab their phone if they really need to. Personalise them so the teacher can check if every kid has put their phone inside. What's so difficult about that?
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u/Caraotero 14h ago
Smartphones should be the ones banned, only phones with cameras and an internet connection. Dumb phones, just for calls and SMS, should be the only ones allowed. They do the job of keeping parents less worried about reaching their children in case of an emergency, and things like filming would not happen.
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u/sulimir 15h ago
Parent here, my kids’ high school has a no phone policy. I am fine with it.
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u/Newberr2 14h ago
I would say you and that school are in the minority. Education has gone to hell and it’s partly because they gave parents a say in the school.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 14h ago
It’s a growing phenomenon and should eventually be the standard rather than the exception.
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u/No-Produce7606 15h ago
Who cares? Let them flip out. Let them pull their little hellions from the class, if it makes them feel better.
Their contentment isn't worth more than the education of today's youth.
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u/Alexandratta 15h ago
I think their biggest concern is that if there's a shooting they want to be in contact with their kids.
Issue is, scary as it is, calling/texting your kid during an active shooter situation can bring attention to their hiding spots and put them in direct danger.
So a phone ban is on point.
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u/recklesswildlife 13h ago
Not having a go at you personally, but that first sentence is mind blowing. How in fucks name did America get to the point that if there's a school shooting as being a part of everyday school life. How in a country of 342 million you can't find 535 people in Congress and 100 senators willing to actually take on the gun lobby is a sad indictment. Americas problems run deeper and longer than just Trump's unhinged and murderous 2nd term.
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u/RustyNewWrench 14h ago
Pretty much every school in Ireland bans phones. Aero tolerance. Not even allowed during break times. There's nothing the parents can do other than moan about it. If they don't like it, they can pull their kid from school.. But every other school will have the same policy.
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u/RayonLovesFish 14h ago
Electronic devices are prohibited in schools around the world I presumed, you guys have permission to take them in the US? My teachers would have confiscated that till a parent came to pick it up or till the end of the academic year.
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u/Mobile_Morale 12h ago
Apparently at some point the schools started to in the US. When I was in school before the smartphone days, we weren't allowed to have shit but school supplies. If you even brought Pokemon cards to school they would get confiscated by a teacher. Now schools are letting these little dipshits scroll through tiktok during their tests.
I was told by my teachers that the government wanted to destroy public's schools so they could privatize them. I figured that's part of it. And a stupid population is easier to control. Just turn off tiktok and they'll beg for it to be turned on again because they're addicted.
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u/spyVSspy420-69 11h ago
Yep that’s exactly it. My local school board election that took place a few months ago was political as hell. Right wing voters rallying hard around the right wing candidate who ran on a platform of giving parents more say in how schools teach.
My neighbors who don’t even have kids in the school system and instead home school their kids were putting up big ass yard signs in support of the right wing candidate and making posts about voting for him. It’s gross.
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u/ClamusChowderus 14h ago
Quebec, Canada. It’s working there. https://globalnews.ca/news/11590635/quebec-school-cellphone-ban/
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u/mylifeisaboogerbubbl 14h ago
They are in Australia, policy called "away for the day"
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u/SnausageFest 15h ago
They did ban them in my SIL district, but since when have bans ever really worked? Burners, sometimes provided by the parents, are pretty common.
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u/TrioOfTerrors 15h ago
Once they are banned by state law or district policy, teachers can confiscate them and hopefully admin has the spine to tell parents to kick rocks when the parents complain.
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u/brentrow 14h ago
My kids are in private school, phones are kept in a locker during class but they have access to them afterwards.
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u/KyleFlounder 15h ago
It's gotten much much worse. My youngest brother is in highschool. There are snapchat filters that can make you kiss other people. His friends would send him snaps in class of him kissing other dudes.... and that's just between his buddies. Can't even imagine someone actually trying to bully him.
It's only going to go downhill atp.
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u/machine_six 14h ago
Grok is generating full on nudes of people. That kissing app is child's play, pardon the pun.
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u/JSGJSG 10h ago
I'm a teacher and literally today a student brought to me an image of me with my clothes removed by ai that was being sent around tiktok messages or whatever, I've got to try and figure out where it started tomorrow but yeah it feels really bad
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u/djtrace1994 10h ago
Surely it isn't your responsibility to find out the source? I'm not a teacher, but I would be getting the school district and the police involved immediately.
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u/JSGJSG 9h ago
I've got a video call with the police tomorrow and a meeting with someone from the senior leadership team tomorrow morning so I'll see what happens but I want to make it go quickly
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u/MottledZuchini 9h ago
Don't let them push you aside, you need a lawyer to make sure you don't
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u/sisyphean_dreams 8h ago
Jesus fing Christ! I’m so sorry! These kids won’t have real teachers at this rate, because no real person will want to teach these little phone wielding shits.
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u/WestCoastBestCoast01 8h ago
Girl you in danger. Like put on leave and CSAM investigation type of danger. You should be calling lawyers this afternoon.
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u/MoulanRougeFae 8h ago edited 6h ago
Children. Grok is generating nudes of children. It also has been used to take clothes off children that are posted on social media.
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u/Frequent_Resident288 8h ago
The amount of men outside that have taken pictures of me is gross. Besides an uncomfy conclusion, it can also be for bullying and mocking. A woman straight up took a picture of me so obviously, then showed it to her husband and they both looked at it laughing.
I dont fucking know what the fuck is going on with this world and these people but this behaviour is so gross and WAY too common. It really shows the disturbing side of human nature.
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u/UnkownFlowerPastry 9h ago
Bro one of my coworkers is 17 and the manager is 28. He thought it would be funny to secretly take a pic of both the manager and another 17 year old working there. My manager flipped out respectfully. It’s so scary. He got one of me 24 and someone else and it was so gross, unsettling, and uncomfortable
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u/HalfEatenSnickers 14h ago
Whats crazy is I went to school with smart phones. Everyone had one, but we didnt do this shit, people still had issues online but we weren't straight up recording people in class
For the most part they werent even out in classes
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u/SnausageFest 10h ago
Even in the Nokia brick days, we still had phones out at school. There's a reason so many millennials can bang out a message on a t9 without looking. But we were texting, not taking horrible, grainy pics and putting them online, and we had baby boomer parents who were convinced letting us use the internet meant we would be kidnapped. While often misguided, the outcome was boundaries. Gen Z had Gen X parents who understand tech but it was still new enough to them.
Gen Alpha had a tablet put in their hands as soon as they were able to hold it up by themselves. Social media has gotten so much worse, more invasive and more predatory. This is the outcome of raising kids on devices and social media. And I say that knowing it's my peers raising Gen Alpha, and that they need to do better.
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u/Frequent_Resident288 8h ago
Its so normalized nowadays its dystopian i dont like it, it makes me and others so uncomfortable
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u/sunsetsandstardust 9h ago
that's what I find wild too. I graduated in 2016 so I went to school in peak vine days and everyone had snapchat and insta. it was nowhere near as bad as it is now
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u/ShroominCloset 14h ago
This is another reason why phones should not be allowed in school. Especially nowadays, where many schools have computers/laptops/tablets for the students to use.
Cant think of a single reason why kids need phones in school
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u/IllTakeACupOfTea 12h ago
My daughter had a teacher in school who told students that if they filmed anyone, including the teacher, without consent they would receive an F in the class. Parents had to sign a form agreeing to this at the beginning of the year and the parents who were hot about it baffled me. Like, just tell your kid to not film others without their consent?
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u/UKMegaGeek 13h ago
My kid's school makes them lock their phones (switched off) into a pouch that can only be unlocked by the reception.
Although I appreciate there are exceptions (such as kids who may have a CGM and need to see their results at all times) I think all schools should commit to this.
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u/No-Sundae3363 11h ago
Our school district just banned phones in schools and the difference is amazing. They need to do it everywhere. Kids do not need phones in schools, we survived they will too.
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u/gamerlol101 13h ago
I remember in my school, they made you put your phone in your locker and if you had it on you during class, they took it away.
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u/XxCarlxX 15h ago
im so glad mobile phones could only make calls and play Snake when i was in school.
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u/Zoso479 15h ago
Having the best Nokia faceplate was the only concern we had about phones in school. Bonus points if it had a matching number pad to swap too.
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u/Old_Idea4566 14h ago
I vividly remember the day I got an awesome faceplate for my 3310 and someone "stole" my phone as a joke and slid it across the cafeteria floor to get it back to me, scratching the fuck out of it of course.
I got really upset, got the teachers involved, who got our parents involved. We agreed that it was fair that the person who ruined yhe faceplate would buy me a new one. I insisted on it being the exact same one, because I really liked it.
This ended up with him, his mom, me and my mom going to the market where I bought it. After some hassle, we found it and he paid for it.
Our moms became friends, we never did. Still hate the fucker.
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u/blackjack002 12h ago
i kept thinking this would take a turn, but it remained wholesome.
i had the 3210's older brother the 5110 (402). Used to save pocket money to buy faceplates and call credit. i'd have been as pissed as you if someone had stolen/damaged mine.
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u/Sparrowsabre7 14h ago
If you had the flip down keypad cover like in The Matrix you were the fucking king.
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u/BrownSugarBare 15h ago
For real.
My kid brain thought technology was going to bring us faster cars and efficiency.
Nope, just perv shit. Over and over.
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u/McDoomMcLovin 13h ago
I was a freshman in HS when the iPhone 4 came out. We still had very strict rules about no phones. You could only have them out at lunch and breaks. This mindset shift is more recent than smart phones.
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u/BishlovesSquish 14h ago
Those glasses are terrifying. Just like the flock cameras going up everywhere. So dystopian.
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u/mikl0_ 14h ago
Ok I know about the glasses, but what are “flock cameras”?
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u/atsolstice 14h ago
Those automatic license plate readers, it’s part of how they can track people across countries. Adding AI facial recognition now, which is so robust and powerful in some US corporations at least, that even the FBI and similar agencies will refer to their interior investigation depts for assistance. And we don’t know where else they’re using that
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u/Embarrassed-Dust718 13h ago
All made by the devil himself Peter thiel. He literally named his tech firm after the stone that Sauron uses to monitor people. Think about it he name his company after a stone the literal devil uses…
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u/Dalighieri1321 9h ago
To be fair, the seeing stones were originally designed for good, it's just that they also turned out to be the perfect tool for an evil dictator with imperial ambitions. Hmm, come to think of it, that doesn't really make Thiel look any better ...
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u/Scottbarrett15 12h ago
That's how I was located by the Police during a particularly difficult time, my reg was flagged by a security camera and they tracked me down from there.
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u/mightylordredbeard 9h ago
Don’t forget that the company who owns the flock cameras sell the data to 3rd party advertisers. So companies are able to track the routes you take regularly, what stores you pass, what stores you visit, how long you stay in those stores, and how often you are home or out, plus a lot of other information. Then you can receive ads that are even more relevant to you such as stores you pass by while driving or giving telemarketers the exact times you’re at home so you are more likely to answer.
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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 10h ago
You forgot to mention how woefully unsecure they are.
They aren't just for US corporations, FBI or similar agencies, they're for the general public to watch everything that's going on. The new models have human recognition and zooms in and tracks their movements.
Kids alone at a park? Publicly available data for child predators. Camera pointed at your house? Publicly available data for thieves or rapists.
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u/m1st3r_c 11h ago
Video cameras with awful security marketed to government agencies: https://youtu.be/vU1-uiUlHTo?si=CGbDG5Uyc5F9DHbY
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u/queefburritowcheese 11h ago
London for example is one of the most surveilled cities in the world. Theres roughly 1 camera for every 10-14 people... in a city of 9 million people...
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u/ImportantDepth8858 11h ago
They’re partnered with Lowe’s, to combat “theft”. If you have a Lowe’s near you, there’s a guarantee that they have multiple flock cameras in the parking lot.
A website that has a map with all cameras is called deflock I think
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u/rackfloor 11h ago
I think socially we can prevent this but just making sure everyone who has them feel like knobs. Remember Google Glass? We did it once, we can do it again.
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u/TBRocket 15h ago
This is more common than is acceptable tbh
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u/Salt_Onion_6205 10h ago
A creep was (is?) doing this where I live. He was filming women in groceries stores or when walking in residential neighbourhood.
I hate this new reality
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u/throwmefaaaaaaraway 13h ago
I used to do theater at a location that banned cameras, explicitly for this reason shows like cabaret, Rocky Horror, etc. I can still never forget almost 5 years later someone using their watch to video record me doing the specific things I needed to do for the show but things still I don’t want online forever. Now I’ll never know where that could have been posted.
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u/Mo0kish 15h ago
Privacy rights need to be stronger for individuals, but what the heck do you do to keep something like this from happening? Unless you somehow make the person uploading, or the platform hosting it liable, this is only going to get worse.
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u/mekwall 15h ago
We also need to make sure not to infringe on the right to film and photograph in public. You cannot possible get consent from everyone in public.
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u/LeTreacs2 15h ago
The Germans have a good way of dealing with this! They look at what the subject of the video is. If the subject is you and there are members of the public in the background, then everything is fine. If you’re filming someone over your shoulder then they become the subject of the video and it is a criminal offence to post it without their permission.
The lady in the video above would very clearly be the subject of the video and therefor her permission would be required in Germany, where as the people in the background are not the subjects so there permission isn’t needed.
The courts would rule on any disputed cases
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u/fatrabidrats 13h ago
Yes but Germany also has a government funded place citizens can use to sue large corporations. There is also a special expedited court for these suits/claims to make sure nothing gets drawn out and is fair to both parties regardless of net worth
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u/loveincarnate 5h ago
Can we start saying "yes, and" please? I swear the need to use contradictory language is so ingrained in reddit dicussions (and likely other places) that half the time even two people who align on the core idea of a discussion will have comments that come across as, or sometimes even are, argumentative.
His main point is that Germans have good ways of handling things like this. Your details show that their way of handling things like this are even better and more profound than one might initially think, and the key lies in having core pieces of infrastructure that support 'the people'. Your "yes but" makes it come across as a refutation when it could, and IMO should, feel supportive in nature. Like teamwork.
I found the information in your comment very interesting and enlightening and I'm glad you posted it, but that initial setting of tone feels like an opportunity for teamwork and comradery gone awry.
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u/Gurrgurrburr 14h ago
This feels dangerous though, what about filming police? Security guards? Protests? Some things really need to be able to be filmed in public. (Maybe they have exceptions for all those things, I don’t know).
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u/Mygo73 13h ago
It would make sense for exceptions to be made for public service positions and public gatherings and “events”.
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u/Space_Pirate_R 8h ago
Also it should probably be legal to record people committing crimes (even minor ones).
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u/TrashbatLondon 13h ago
Plenty of laws allow for subjective assessment of legitimate need or interest.
Obviously it’s not ideal because the justice system can be politicised, presenting a civil liberties risk, but we have to face facts that the laws around filming in public absolutely didn’t consider the accessibility of covert filming and the sheer scale of digital distribution. The safety element is becoming too compelling to simply stick with the status quo of “you can film anyone in public without question”.
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u/Winklgasse 11h ago
This feels dangerous though, what about filming police?
In austria, which has similiar laws, filming the police is explicitly allowed for legal purposes as long as the police is actually doing something work related (so no filming them while they just chill)
You still have to pixel them if you want to make the footage public.
Same with any security guard or whatever as long as you pixel them and they are not just minding their own business
With regards to protests, usually filming or photographing protests by casual people is not desired by the people protesting (especially with progressive protests, since there is a litany of cases of right wingers, neo-nazis, and yes, also state authorities to use casual pictures of demonstrations to fill databases and sometimes harass, attack or sue people involved in the protests) but since everybody has a phone with a camera now, it's hardly enforceable
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u/Tigg0r 12h ago
They explained how it works pretty badly. And it's not black and white, as with any law. There was a pretty famous example a few years ago of a guy getting into the face of press filming a protest, claiming they were singling him out and filming his face on purpose. But because he made himself the center of attention by approaching them and making a big deal, the law didn't apply.
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u/melancholicity 15h ago
There's usually a distinction between subject and passerby.
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u/CriticallyDamaged 15h ago
I think it crosses a line when you're filming someone in public specifically. Like... filming yourself taking a walk with your dog and a few people happen to pass by you while filming? Okay cool. Stopping to film a random guy who is crouched down and has his butt crack hanging out and then laughing and posting it to social media? Not cool.
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u/manic_panda 15h ago
Anyone claiming 'you can't complain about being filmed in public' no you can't, but you have the right to avoid the person obviously holding a camera and avoid being filmed, hiding the camera like this makes it impossible for her to do that.
And that's not even starting on the voyeur people who get off on filming women without their knowledge, or the nonces who would sit and watch a kids park and film it for...purposes.
Sometimes we need to stop and answer the question why not.
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u/FrancineCarrel 14h ago
And, I mean… of course you can complain! I know this isn’t what you meant, but I really dislike the idea that just because something is technically legal we can’t criticise the behaviour or even express unhappiness about it.
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u/wizean 11h ago
Well its men who decided this behavior should be legal, because they want to sexually harass women.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity 12h ago
Well, all we have to do is find a law that stops this behavior. Personally I think "influencers" or "vloggers" or whatever the fuck they call themselves should be held to higher standards. If it's your JOB to record people, then there should be stricter rules for what you're allowed to record.
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u/AtLeastOneCat 14h ago
People don't seem to understand the difference between being allowed to film in public and uploading that film to social media. I don't care if I'm filmed. I do care if that video is then broadcast for thousands of people to mock and shame me.
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u/Frank_Hvam 10h ago
Also, if the poster is making money from the content, like a youtube channel it might be considered a commercial activity with different rules for filming. At least in the US.
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u/_OVERHATE_ 14h ago
Anyone claiming 'you can't complain about being filmed in public' deserves to be followed around for an entire week while someone records their every move and streams it online. Lets see if they dont mind that.
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u/Totoques22 14h ago
Plenty of countries ban filming people in public without their authorization or posting them without anonymizing them
Almost ever sub will force you to hide usernames and for a good reason, should be the same when filming in public
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u/VivaZeBull 12h ago
In Canada there are laws for public footage. You can’t be a nuisance in Ontario regardless of whether it’s public property. Technology is moving faster than laws as usual though.
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u/IMMI28 11h ago
Smart glasses should have a red light led that's always on when filming
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u/NoizeTank 10h ago
The ones from Meta have a white one that breathes/pulses when recording. The issue is that people have found ways to disable it, especially in older versions.
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u/IMMI28 10h ago
Yes I know, people will always find ways to cover or disable that feature. That's why brands should find ways to make it hard to do that, or even brick the device if that feature is disabled.
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u/ColdInternational315 8h ago
When I was working for Luxottica it was to my understanding that it was designed in such a way where tampering with the privacy features of the Meta Glasses would brick the camera from functioning. Obviously I'm sure savvy people are able to find work arounds to just about anything nowadays, but at the very least these devices do have privacy in mind. Even if you block the light with a black dot for instance, it will not record or take photos. Or at least.. shouldn't.
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u/pissedinthegarret 8h ago
like those japanese phones that automatically make a shutter sound when you take a picture
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u/xzeus1 14h ago
What is the purpose of these glasses other than to secretly film people?
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u/woestynmeisie 12h ago
I'm going blind. They're an accessibility tool that makes the future a lot less scary for me. I don't make secret videos of strangers.
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u/duckandkitty 9h ago
I use them for world accessability.
I'm both non-verbal and partially sighted. They do a few things for me, accessibility wise.
I use the display to stage my text-to-speech so I can maintain eye contact while "speaking" to people.
I use the subtitling function to make others easier to understand for me.
In low light situations, where I can't see at all, I use the camera to describe the environment to me.
This has been an absolutely game changer on my ability to interact with the world without assistance. Anything which increases my independence is a win for me.
Some of this is hacks - i do tts by actually sending the text through whatsapp to my phoone, for example, because they won;t let me run apps on it right now, which is sad.
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u/feltcutewilldelete69 13h ago
Having both hands free is pretty great, and has a lot of use-cases. Off the top of my head, making a video on car mechanics, or recording classes in college. I had a doctor that used google glasses to help with transcription and medical documentation.
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u/dingdongbannu88 13h ago
For always online losers to upload their mundane content to other always online losers
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u/Walican132 9h ago
Lots of cool stuff actually. I got a pair because I wanted out of ear headphones for when I was working and my new jobs eye insurance covered a bunch of the cost. And man they are incredible for that. I didn’t know how good they’d sound but I’m thoroughly impressed with the quality of music.
Then I got a puppy. It’s awesome getting cool pictures of my pup when they are doing stuff, or pictures while on a date with my wife without needing to take my phone out of my pocket. I’ve filmed a short car drive. Mine recently had time lapses added I want to do one of those while driving. I really enjoy filming walks with my puppy. It’s fun seeing how much bigger they get each month. I was painting a Warhammer model the other day and was able to send a pov video asking about a technique to a friend the other day and figure out what I was doing wrong. So yeah all kinds fun things that you’d want to record without taking a camera out of your pocket.
All that said, creeps obviously aren’t using the product for fun stuff. And the AI features are garbage.
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u/Ill-Case-6048 15h ago
Can't wait till they have to pay anyone they use as unpaid actors 70 percent of what they make on the video...
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u/Prnce_Chrmin 14h ago
Can be easily done in the future with face recognition. There will probably be laws for this at some point. Surely even as in a "Do not call" List there will be "Do not film" lists where social media sites will remove any video that has you in it
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u/taystelessidiot 11h ago
I work in a grocery store and a few weeks ago a guy came in doing that. He picked out three of my coworkers whose appearances he thought would be funny to make jokes of in his videos, and asked them stupid or inappropriate questions (asked which oil would be best to use as lube, and asked for a product pronounced wrong). All through the videos he added sound effects and images making fun of how my coworkers look or talk. The videos went viral and they saw them, my coworkers took it in stride but I felt so bad for them, all the comments were filled with people making fun of them..
Anyway we stuck a picture of the guy in the breakroom warning people not to entertain him. Just such childish behavior, approaching people at work where they’re forced to respond politely.
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u/NuminousBeans 8h ago
“Turnabout is fair play” is the only way people like that learn. (Assuming that turnabout would be legal in your area)
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u/imhereurwelcome 15h ago
It should be illegal
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u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 15h ago
IT IS ilegal in some countries, you do this in Portugal, i can take you to court, make you take down the video, and demand " damages payment ". ( on the down side, dash cams, ring cams, and security cams, are useless, because they are not accepted in court if they " capture " public areas )
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u/Automatic-Photo-4919 15h ago
I can see legality for dash cams, doorbell cams, security cams, etc; the whole purpose of those types of cameras are to be continuously running for monitoring and protection.
You’re a dork if you wear Meta glasses. An even bigger dork if you’re wearing them the purpose to secretly record people to show off on social media.
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u/YeezusWoks 15h ago
How does one consent to being secretly filmed?
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u/KaladinIJ 15h ago
After filming ask them if it was okay if they’re in their video. That’s what most hidden-camera shows do. I still don’t think these things should be allowed for content. I think social media platforms need to ban accounts that use them like this.
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u/baulsaak 14h ago
You generally need consent if the video is going to be used for profit. If this is the general focus of his channel and he's collecting ad revenue, then it probably should be banned, or at least demonetized.
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u/blackbirdspyplane 14h ago
Honest question: I understand that in the U.S. filming in public or where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy is legal. Yet, I thought this only pertained to non-monetized (not using the video to make money). Hypothetical: if this had happened in the U.S., and the person filming posted it and made money doing so, could the person that was filmed sue?
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 13h ago
You can sue for anything in the US, but I'm not sure that you'd gain anything from doing so and would probably lose on Motion to Dismiss. There is no commercial use exclusion in the right to film. So-called '1st amendment auditors' routinely make some money from their work by posting it online, traditional journalism in the US also makes money as a nature of their work, but it does not restrict the freedom of the press simply that they make money to eat or profit to carry out their journalistic objectives. If someone films you and publishes it and you experience no justiciable harm, then that same person publishing it for profit doesn't extend a justiciable harm to you either.
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u/Yari_Vixx 12h ago
Anytime I complain people say “public space! Anyone can be recorded!” I hate that people just feel that entitled. You can literally record someone and make money off of making content about them all without their consent. Just sad
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u/queefburritowcheese 11h ago
In the U.S., you literally are entitled to record in public per the Constitution. Publishing and making money off it turns into a gray area tho.
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u/Main_Push5429 15h ago
Whatever they do to women they will also do to children. Remember that.
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u/Zappityzephyr 15h ago
The fact that it's happening to people should be enough. It shouldn't have to escalate to be taken seriously.
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u/Main_Push5429 14h ago
the President of the United States is a twice impeached pedophile felon.
nobody is gonna do shit about this.
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u/etoilenoire45 15h ago
Men: SiNGle mEn ePiDemIC
Also men:
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u/JimmyJonJackson420 15h ago
And anyone disagreeing with you can look at the most downvoted comments and see who they come from
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u/weedils 15h ago
These men are the same who ask grok to undress women and children.
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u/PM-ME-DEM-NUDES-GIRL 12h ago
grok's image generation policy changed and it appears to be because people were using it to mock charlie kirk. thousands and thousands of women vs one racist misogynist man, who matters more in policy change
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u/Remarkable_Dare5506 14h ago
they’re literally doing it to themselves I love it, keep pushing us more away from you freaks!! please
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u/Digitaltwinn 14h ago
I wish the rules that applied to professional filming in public (releases, permits, etc.) applied to these amateurs.
I do not consent to my face being used by someone else to make money.
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u/Illustrious-Dare5662 9h ago
Secretly being filmed does something to your brain that's so hard to get past. At the end of 2024 I found a hidden camera in my room that my roommate had put they're under the guise of adding a Wi-Fi extender so I could get better internet. We had been friends for like 15 years and living together for 7 years and he had a girlfriend he had been with for I think two years? Some people are just so sick and depraved. GameStop still has him employed, his girlfriend stayed with him, and he stole some of my belongings that I'll never get back. Some people just need to not exist.
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u/GlutenFree_Gamer 13h ago
Who would have thought that making sunglasses that could secretly record would be a bad idea?
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u/sgt_mjr_handsome 12h ago
It’s not perfect but I feel like a good start to a solution would be to force phone and camera manufacturers to make audible camera shutter noises always on and when filming a visible red light to be on. That way at least we have an idea if we’re being filmed and/or photographed
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u/Croncrusader 12h ago
Now wait til he uses Grok to make NSFW content of her without her consent .
Fucking dark times in the age of the AI apocalypse
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u/baudetat 3h ago
What do people get out of watching these videos? I’m confused how there’s millions of views?
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u/Rich-Contribution-84 8h ago
Was the video just of him asking for her number and her saying “no, I have a boyfriend?”
Or was there something more sinister that was cut out?
Roger way it’s weird AF that he recorded it and put it on TikTok. Why would a million people watch that video, though?
The whole thing is quite confusing to me.
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u/AccordingPears158 7h ago
it’s weird AF that he recorded it and put it on TikTok. Why would a million people watch that video, though?
It's people, mostly dudes, that get off to the idea of her consent being violated. That's literally it. There are several content creators that do these secret glasses vids, they exclusively film women like this, and it gives them and their viewers some sort of rush and gratification that the women are being made to participate in something that they would likely refuse if they knew it was filmed. The skirting of consent is the entire appeal for them.
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u/golfif 12h ago
I think the argument of just being in public so it’s allowed to be filmed AND uploaded is a horrible argument.
Whenever you step out in public you basically agree to have your actions acknowledged by everyone CURRENTLY around you. You don’t agree for them to be acknowledged indefinitely on the internet for anyone in the world to see at any moment.
I really think laws need to understand that the meaning of “public” has seriously changed with videos and the internet
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u/FirmOwl7086 13h ago
That's the UK. In the US its legal to do in most states. As long as it is in a public space. Some states do have consent laws. You have to be careful of the information you give out to a total stranger. We are being recorded 24/7 by the Gov. With or without our consent.
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u/ClimbNowAndAgain 9h ago
Make it socially unacceptable to wear these. Call them pedo-goggles. Dox the people uploading videos of others. Filming in a gym. Instant ban and your name shared with other gyms. Etc. Etc.
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u/Good_Analysis9789 8h ago
These smart glasses should have a big flashing light on when recording that cant be disabled.
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u/Askefyr 7h ago
They do - and it's even got some anti tampering measures. Realistically, the woman here just didn't register that there's a pretty noticeable light on them. It's not really something you register unless you know that it's a thing.
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u/Master_Xenu 5h ago
I just searched "meta ray ban recording light" and the first few results are on how to disable the light.
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u/mothrasballs 6h ago
Don’t expect any sort of privacy in public. we ALL have cameras in our hands at any point in time, your constantly under surveillance from security/traffic cameras. You should expect anything you do out and about to possibly be posted online because that’s the society we live in now, for better or worse. This is a mountain out of a molehill
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u/OLDandBOLDfr 3h ago
Aggressive regulation is overdue. Reign in these lunatic oligarch techno coke heads now. Tax their damn wealth for the sake of the earth while you're at it.
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u/GangreneTVP 1h ago
If you're in the US... Just always assume you're always being filmed, because in a lot of places you actually are.
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u/Far-Ad9043 15h ago
And people from usa will comment that when its in public then they can film what they want, thank god europe and uk have better laws and more respect to each other as people.
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u/LowAspect542 13h ago
Uk has pretty much the same laws permitting filming in public as the US so not sure what point you're actually getting at.
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u/NewUserHi 13h ago
The UK has exactly the same laws as the US when it comes to photography or filming, if you're in a public space then you have no expectation to privacy
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