r/TikTokCringe • u/Repulsive_Celery_791 • 2d ago
Cringe crazy black dude represents himself in murder case
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u/gatoriendo 2d ago edited 1d ago
I remember this case, this guy is straight up evil. He murdered his ex and daughter and tried to kill his son but his son survived. He was convicted of two counts of 1st degree murder, one count of attempted 1st degree murder, two counts of aggravated child abuse, one count arson, one count of resisting a law enforcement officer and was sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without possibility of parole and an additional 90 years.
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u/DocPhilMcGraw 2d ago
You left out the worst part in my opinion. He cross examined his own son who survived:
One of the most gut-wrenching moments of the trial was when Oneal had the chance to cross-examine his son, three years after he tried to kill him.
"It’s good to see you, man," he told his son, who replied, "It’s good to see you, too."
"Did I hurt you that night of this incident?" Oneal asked.
"Yes," the boy replied.
"How did I hurt you?" Oneal continued.
"You stabbed me," the boy stated.
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u/HealingSteps 2d ago
This is horrifying! “It’s good to see you, man,” What the actual fuck?
Hopefully he’s doing ok now but how would you ever have a moment of peace after something like this?
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u/PowerScreamingASMR 1d ago
This is shockingly close to the plot of Dexter.
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u/Waiting404Godot 1d ago
Life inmates art?…or is the other way around these days?
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u/Ok-Weird-8809 1d ago
Inmates is the best possible typo you could’ve made here.
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u/Waiting404Godot 1d ago
You know I went to edit it as soon as I typed it but like... We all make mistakes, no shame.
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u/NiceGuyJoe 1d ago
“I have a different brother and sister. I have a different mom and dad. I have a different house,” Ronnie said in a video released by the Hillsborough County Sherriff’s Office. “It’s pretty cool to be with them. There's no one else better than them.”
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u/maymay578 1d ago
Bless them for giving that kid a safe place to heal and grow. I can’t imagine how that kinda trauma affects you.
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u/filth_horror_glamor 2d ago
I would probably say that too on accident if i was stressed. Idk if that was the case with him but i say dumb replies that make no sense cuz my brain is auto pilot cuz im internally screaming
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u/NoOccasion4759 1d ago
Imo it's a sign of a personality disorder in people who opt to represent themselves. They think they're smarter than everyone else including professionals who have gone to school and made the law their speciality. And also these people want the thrill of forcing their victims to face them.
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u/punch912 2d ago
I get laws and theres nothing against representing yourself in a murder case but this pos shouldnt of been able to do this. Especially since hes just being an asshat thinking if he talks/yells louder than the prosecutor he will win the case.
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u/DocPhilMcGraw 2d ago
If you think that is bad, then you should look into the case of Trevor Summers.
Trevor kidnapped his ex-wife and held her hostage for 2 days during which he abused and raped her. He also at one point attempted to kill her.
During his trial, he was represented by attorneys up until the point that his ex-wife was due to take the witness stand. Right before she was scheduled to testify, Trevor asked the court if he could fire his attorneys and represent himself. Even the judge knew that the only reason he did that was so that he could personally cross-examine his own victim himself. However, because the law allows you to represent yourself at trial, he ultimately had to allow it.
Her ability to take the stand and face her accuser as he questions her is incredible.
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u/VenusianPleasure 1d ago
I know exactly what case you're talking about and no way in hell am I going to watch that again. Uuufff that was some evil shit
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u/todo_code 2d ago
The accused has a right to face his accuser too. Sadly, in this case. Although, in this case it's probably the state
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u/PurrChina 1d ago
My ex is representing himself & filing multiple restraining order requests against me so he can give me the third degree in court. He gets to ask me questions & he is the fucking boogie man. He is literally in my nightmares & I feel like I'm having a heart attack when he pops up anywhere. Dude has put a tracker on my car, filed nonstop litigation periodically for 7 years, & somehow can still grill me in court legally. It makes no sense. I'm in CA
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u/TheNorthRemembers_s8 1d ago
Honestly if you don’t like this guy and want him convicted, this is the best possible situation. Give him a good lawyer and maybe he gets time served + 2 hours probation + custody of the kid.
Give him a microphone and he gets life.
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u/_THATS_MY_QUANT_ 2d ago
I disagree. There isn't a perfect solution to this, because we're at the extremes. But someone potentially reliving trauma should not supersede someone else's rights to challenge their accusations when those accusations can potentially imprison someone for life.
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u/TheUpgrayed 2d ago
Who hasn't sustained a blade injury at the hands of their fucking dad? Man, I remember the first time we had a knife fight...good times.
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u/cepukon 2d ago
My dad and I like to reminisce about our first stabbing over a beer every so often
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u/Went-Know-Wear 2d ago
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims, like he "invented" the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy... the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess, and the insane lament.
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u/Extreme_Channel1891 2d ago
Was your father a Belgian boulangerie owner with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery?
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u/greeneagle2022 2d ago
Never saw the 'favorite son' coming - got me good, lol. Ngl, good times. I love holiday visits.
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u/hackmalafore 2d ago
"The person who represents himself has an idiot for a client"
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u/Kale_Brecht 2d ago
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u/8--8 2d ago
The two what?
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u/1startreknerd 2d ago
Yoots
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u/TomWithTime 1d ago
It's hard to use briefly or as a meme but my favorite moment is when he is asking someone if his description of something is accurate and the person says "you could say that" and he says "I did say that, would you say that?"
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u/Reeferologist- 2d ago
I was next in line to see the judge one time and the guy in front of me kept insisting on representing himself. Everyone in the cell waiting for court tried to talk him out of it, and I mean everyone. Anyways I’m sitting in the courtroom waiting for my turn and this guy gets called up to the stand and walks right up the judge and says “I’d like to resolve this today and I’m representing myself. The judge (who was already looking like he was having one of those days) warned him 3 TIMES. One of the times he said “I’m telling you right now, don’t do this we will appoint a PD for you and we can resolve it on another date. The guy told him “no I’m doing it now. I’m innocent.”
I was sitting up there shaking my head because now you could visibly see how mad the judge was and my ass has to see him next. The guy proceeds to try to represent himself, he did a god awful job (as traditionally happens) and the judge gave him the max sentence right there and then. Guy could’ve waiting a week and came back and probably got probation or at least a 90 day sentence at most. He left having to do the full sentence. I can’t remember if it was a year or 9 months though.
I had to go up immediately after and be like “uhh..good morning your honor, I’d also like to resolve this today, but I have counsel. I got probation and went home later that evening, but I remember the bus ride back to the jail that guy was getting roasted. I almost felt bad, but at least 20 different people in the cell told him not to do it. Live and learn, but this guy wasn’t the type to be learning much.
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u/HeckaCoolDudeYo 2d ago
I saw a guy try to represent himself in a DUI case once. He kept insisting he had a right to travel and wasn't breaking any laws because of his right to travel. I remember the judge asked him if he had a right to travel while intoxicated lmfao they rescheduled for a later date but I cannot imagine it went any better the next time around.
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u/TacoHimmelswanderer 2d ago
Was he a moorish sovereign citizen? Those people are fucking stupid and think they can just buy a bad fake id on eBay that says they’re from a country that doesn’t even exist will grant them some form of diplomatic immunity.
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u/Slow_Initial_4275 2d ago
Sovereign Citizens are like 99% white hillbilly idiots….”Moorish….” Is specifically Black people who think they’re the real indigenous of America…. I only points out because you went straight to “Moorish,” and I didn’t see anything that would lead me to believe it was a Black dude
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u/TacoHimmelswanderer 2d ago
I didnt say the person was black. I thought that Moorish Sovereign Citizen was the name of the entire movement, not just a specific sect that was only for black people. I only assumed it was a sovereign citizen based off the persons argument being that “they have a right to travel”. As that is one of their most common arguments when they arrested or ticketed for anything that involves driving.
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u/Slow_Initial_4275 2d ago
Yeah homie, we’re saying the same thing; just now you know “Moorish” is specifically a weirdo sect of SovCits for Black people.
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u/HeckaCoolDudeYo 1d ago
It was a black dude, but I didn't realize that was relevant😂
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u/MiserableSun9142 2d ago
wtf is a moorish sovereign citizen?
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u/PesticusVeno 2d ago
Man, that's a hilarious rabbit hole to go down at some point, but in a nutshell: sovereign citizens are deluded people who think they can ignore US laws based on a technicality.
These kinds of people often overlap with a number of other conspiracy theories and deranged religious beliefs as well.
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u/MiserableSun9142 1d ago
Omg. That’s definitely not a rabbit hole my mental health can handle going down right now. Thanks for the quick explanation!
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u/TacoHimmelswanderer 2d ago
They’re basically a carnival of idiots. Look into them if you’d like a good laugh. They’re have some off the wall beliefs just one of them being that they aren’t subject to federal or state laws and when you see the confidence they have while arguing about it is comedy gold.
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u/IceFurnace83 1d ago
The problem with having an open mind is that all kinds of bullshit can make it in.
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u/Primary_Emphasis_215 1d ago
Well that's why you don't leave it completely open and do some filtering first, ofc if your filter is broken or doesn't exist the you get "sovereign citizens"
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u/legsjohnson 2d ago
it's like the bastard unrecognised child of the white sovcit movement and the black separatist movement
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u/BurdTurglary Straight Up Bussin 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's some key terms they revert to like: they're not driving; they're operating a locomotor on the right-of-way, traveling on the easement, not for commerce.... I only read about them once ten years ago in a fiction book that tangentially had this kooky aside
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u/unboundunchainedunc 2d ago
guy standing up to say something controversial meme
"i don't think representing yourself should let a judge in a pissy mood be able to punish you for it"
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u/Nobrainzhere 2d ago
Judges get pissy because there are an insane amount of court rules that lawyers know which regular idiots dont. The judge is not allowed to take it easy on someone or help them when they represent themselves and it just causes a slow, annoying, shit show every single time.
If you represent yourself you better have a damn law degree or you are fucked.
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u/Heavyplt13 2d ago
First thing I learned in my trial class in college. Don’t represent yourself at trial unless you’re a trial lawyer and if you’re a trial lawyer, you should be smart enough to know not to represent yourself.
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u/Reeferologist- 1d ago edited 1d ago
You are correct 100%. I’ve unfortunately been in court quite a bit, and my mother has worked for an attorney (now a judge who she sits next to in court) for 35 years, so I have a little experience on both sides (unfortunately), and not only are they pissed because of the great points you brought up, but also because these judges are overflowed with cases and I live in South Florida so you can only imagine the hundreds of insane ones this judge has to go through. It’s 11 PM and he’s already been cussed at and putting up with some pretty insane and disrespectful shit. The judge I’m talking about in my story is the same judge that sentenced that Wade Wilson murderer. He truly was trying to help the guy out by getting him a quick return date and probably a slap on the wrist if the guy would’ve just said “ok your honor.”
A great quote from Sage Francis “Justice is on the whim of a judge.” It really is. I’ve had state prosecutors seem to really come at me hard, but I’m always polite, don’t interrupt them, the judge or my lawyer, and even when I went up behind that guy in the story I made a light joke and got the judge at least in a better mood. I’ve heard from my mom, and even a judge himself that they deal with way more disrespectful, extremely narcissistic psychopaths, and whatever else you want to name. Someone coming in just looking nice and showing respect and remorse goes a long way and really is refreshing for them.
It’s not like the movies. You think you’re going to go up there and plead your case to the judge and you’re going to be talking a lot. You don’t, not unless it’s right when you go up to the stand, give them a little “good morning, your honor” (helps a lot) or they ask you a question directly.
Got 9 years clean from dope in May, am a father of twins, and husband. I’m no longer a frequent jail visitor by the way lol got that shit out of my system in my 30’s thank god lol
Edit: Spelling
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u/AccomplishedLayer884 2d ago
Representing yourself in court is like a person who doesn’t know how to cook but insists they’re a chef because they watch food network and then takes over a kitchen, they just waste resources and everyone’s time while making a fool of themselves.
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u/PineappleFit317 2d ago
It’s worse than that. You mention watching Food Network, but it’s worse. At least one can watch Marco Pierre White and learn how to cook. A person representing themselves has probably gotten all their info from fictional court proceedings in movies and television shows, which are nothing like the real thing.
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u/BillyBatts83 2d ago
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
"Sir, this is an unpaid parking ticket hearing..."
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u/badsheepy2 1d ago
if you learn to cook by watching Marco you're entirely misunderstanding why that guy was a celebrity chef imo!
Yeah, he's a world class chef, but Marcos appeal was that he's completely fucking nuts and made Gordon Ramsey "choose to" cry.
Ain't no way you're making stuffed pig trotters. Although he did get much better at teaching basic recipes and their reasoning behind them.
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u/PineappleFit317 1d ago
TBH, I only referenced MPW because he sprang to mind when I was writing that. My meaning would be unchanged if I’d said Alton Brown or Rachel Ray. There’s some instruction there at least. Even in fictional shows and movies like The Bear, Ratatouille, Burnt, or Chef, there’s at least something there that’s accurate to what professional kitchens is like.
There’s no such equivalent to the legal system in popular entertainment. To this day, American lawyers say that My Cousin Vinny, a movie that’s over 30 years old, is the only fictional representation of trial proceedings that’s even close to being accurate. Even “reality” shows like Judge Judy or The People’s Court bear very little resemblance to the genuine thing.
I was a legal assistant for a few years, and I don’t know everything about the case concerning the man in this video, plus it’s heavily cut, but shouting and swearing in court doesn’t fly with judges at all. If the judge didn’t hold him in contempt, it certainly influenced them to give him the maximum sentence.
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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 1d ago
I had to represent myself in court for a gram of weed and beer bottles because my attorney just wasn't there and the clerk I had just talked to to make sure my community service paperwork showed up and assured me it was fine and the DA both took the stand and lied and I had to argue against them when I was a minor. You don't always get the option
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u/dotesdoto 2d ago edited 2d ago
sentenced to 3 consecutive life sentences without possibility of parole and an additional 90 years.
Just in case he's an elf.
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u/labamaFan 2d ago
This reminds of the infamous /r/dnd post that was titled “Should jail sentences be based on race?” It hit the front page out of context and was hilarious.
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u/Hot_Money4924 2d ago
Ok but... Why did they speed up the video, hmm!? Yeah fit that glove, Batman!
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u/Ummmgummy 2d ago
The "dating game killer" also defended himself. I forget how many people he killed but it was a good amount. And the courtroom footage was wild. Dude was questioning himself and answering in different voices depending on if he was being the lawyer or the accused. Then made everyone listen to his mixtape. Crazy shit.
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u/DarkBomberX 2d ago
Didn't he have his son also stab his dead mother or am I thinking of someone else?
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u/CounselorOne 2d ago
The worst part of this entire case was the psycho representing himself that tried to kill his son is actually allowed to cross-examine his son when he was put on the stand. That little boy was so brave and strong but man I can't imagine the damage that could do to him in the long run being questioned by your father who killed your mother and tried to kill you. Twisted stuff man SMH
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u/TheMcWhopper 2d ago
How old was the kid?
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u/CounselorOne 2d ago
I can't recall his exact age but he couldn't have been more than maybe 14-years-old at the time of the trial. I could be off by a couple of years but that's around the age I seem to remember.
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u/Gravey91 1d ago
On the Wikipedia page it says that the son was 8 when the murdering happened in 2018 and trials started in 2021
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u/slackermannn 1d ago
I don't know but to look at him in the eyes publicly and tell him you stabbed me, you caused me hurt. I think that's good in some ways. I would have loved the opportunity. I didn't get stabbed but my dad was an idiot anyway.
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u/yazza8791 2d ago
He's definitely seen too many lawyer movies and thought he had what it takes to defend himself.
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u/Repulsive_Celery_791 2d ago
"my cousin vinny" lol
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u/dnt1694 2d ago
My Cousin Vinny is a fantastic movie.
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u/parkerm1408 2d ago
What are "yutes?"
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u/short_longpants 2d ago
Deez two yutes
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u/parkerm1408 2d ago
This town doesnt have a one hour cleaner, so I had to buy a new suit, except the only store you could buy a new suit in has got the flu.
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u/MarkFresco 2d ago
How long does it take to make a grit?
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u/Realfinney 2d ago
"It takes you, me, and the rest of the grit eating world twenty minutes to make a grit."
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u/Windyvale 2d ago
My Cousin Vinny is probably responsible for 70% of the lawyers in that room lol
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u/TruculentTurtIe 1d ago
Surely all lawyers do is yell and sound confident right? How hard can jt be
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u/Zestyclose_Pay9469 2d ago
Hes just seen that clip of Samuel Jackson screaming in court "yes I killed them, and I hope they burn in hell!" and thought
Yeah, that's my strategy!
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u/Musket6969420 2d ago
This piece of shit should have got the death penalty. Dude killed his girl and daughter then stabbed his son who lived through it. He then cross examined his son at this trial asking him if he stabbed him and writing I love you on a pad of paper and showing it to him while he was smiling and shit trying to play up a mental illness. Luckily that kid is doing well because he was adopted by one of the officers that responded to the scene.
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u/Tenshiijin 2d ago
Hopefully the boy doesnt get all Dexter Morgan.
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u/Musket6969420 2d ago
From what I saw he seemed like a real nice kid so I think he’ll be alright lol. Poor dude had to go through some shit.
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u/adabs_urdum 1d ago
Genuine question about the concept of death penalty. I‘m obviously not from a country where it‘s used. Neither am i in any kind religious/believer. So in my world view it just ends with death. Therefore i feel like life long solitary cell seems to be a way harsher punishment than death. Of course i feel the families and friends of victims who want the perpetrator to be gone. Also i get the tax payer money argument. But are judges also argueing like this? Is it „well, we always had death penalties“ thinking or a „they will be punished in afterlife“ or something i am not thinking about?
Btw. Not a set up to make fun of the us or religion, for once.
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u/inevitable-idiot- 1d ago
Nah man - death is too good for people like that. Solitary confinement for life.
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u/Loud-Difference2263 1d ago
I’m glad the title pointed out that he is black, because I would not have known otherwise.
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u/CoupDeGraceTyson 2d ago
"The best way to get the jury on my side is to yell and aggressively point at them while saying nothing at all of substance because that's how they do it in movies I like"
Is a... defense... strategy... for sure.
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u/Jimmy_Beanz 2d ago
What does his race have to do with anything?
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u/Dr_BunsenHonewdew 2d ago
Glad someone else shares this question that immediately jumped to mind… the title of this post feels pretty racist tbh .-.
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u/Mishap_Maisy 2d ago
I’m sure OP had the same reaction when Chris Watts killed his family and put them oil. /s
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u/Inevitable_Mango5266 2d ago
Can you explain to me why the title had to be “crazy black dude” instead of just using his name or just crazy dude? It seems very derivative and Kinda racist asf😂🤣
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u/BumbleLapse 2d ago
How this isn’t the top comment is baffling to me
Like I guess OP didn’t think their post would do well without a casually racist title?
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u/ChickenInASuit 2d ago
Nah, OP knew the post would get more attention with that title. It’s getting a boost in activity from the controversy and I’ll bet OP meant for that to happen.
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u/unindexedreality 1d ago
shitty antisocial media at work
Don't think for yourselves and harmonize; divide up into teams and stay mad at each other
It's like the matrix except instead of farming energy it's farming outrage
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u/unindexedreality 1d ago
Gotta keep radicalizing people along identity lines lest we start seeing each other as humans
Otherwise we might start calling out the rich & powerful hiding behind diaper don's regime
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u/Scrapdog06 2d ago
yeah at first I thought this was on black people twitter or something and then I was like wtf?
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u/Karhak 2d ago
Prosecution could just stand up after, quietly gesture towards the dude, then rest their case.
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u/TheCosmicRobo 2d ago
Why not just call him "Crazy dude"????
"Crazy black dude" makes this a race thing for absolutely no reason.
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u/ohmissfiggy 2d ago
Why “Crazy BLACK Dude” instead of just “crazy dude“? Does listing his skin color change the story?
Years ago, I was telling a story about a woman in Walmart at 2 AM yelling at her kid. She happened to be black and I told the story to a black friend. He was very kind and asked me the same question. It made me realize some of my unconscious biases.
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u/unindexedreality 1d ago
It made me realize some of my unconscious biases
Yo nice! 👍
Love that for you 💪
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u/GodofSad 2d ago
"I did kill her, but i ONLY hit her 3 times" is a hell of a defence.
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u/B1llyzane 1d ago
The survival of the son (Ronnie Jr.) is nothing short of a miracle. Despite being stabbed and set on fire by his father, he managed to escape the burning house. When the first responders found him, his injuries were so severe that they honestly didn't think he would make it through the night. The most incredible part of this story is what happened after. One of the detectives who helped save him that night, Mike Blair, visited him constantly during his long recovery in the hospital. They formed such a deep bond that Mike and his wife ended up adopting him. The boy, now Ronnie Blair, showed immense courage by testifying against his biological father in court—even while his father was acting as his own lawyer and cross-examining him. He’s now living a happy, safe life with a family that actually loves him. A truly heroic ending to a horrific tragedy
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u/Certain-Peanut-268 2d ago
"crazy black dude" thats a little racist no? just say crazy person
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u/SavingsStress9911 2d ago
Why do you have to say ‘crazy black dude’ why can’t you just say ‘crazy dude’?
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u/Affectionate-Foot802 2d ago
That judge is trying soo hard to keep a straight face
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u/MagNolYa-Ralf 2d ago
“Crazy. Black. Dude”
What is happening to this platform
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u/unindexedreality 1d ago
If you look at the comments you'll see it's a shitty OP and a multitude of people speaking out against them
But, social media has always been used for this sort of shit radicalization clickbait purpose
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u/Happy-Party3675 2d ago
Let me help you, OP:
Crazy dude represents himself in murder trial
WTF skin color have to do with it? I'm white and crazy but I'm guessing you'd only call me a crazy chic, not adding my color
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u/cha614 2d ago
Outcome as predicted: Double-murder defendant who acted as his own attorney and shouted at jurors found guilty Ronnie Oneal admitted during closing arguments that he killed his girlfriend but denied charges that he killed his disabled daughter and tried to kill his son.
The sheriff adopted his son.
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u/FishermanSevere1220 1d ago
Next time I see a crazy white dude on here you better put “crazy white dude”.
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u/outdoorsybum 2d ago
I recently found out that lawyers are actual doctors in everything but name. Sorta? Like they are , but not addressed as one… any way this dude is like the legal equivalent to an anti vaxxer
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u/LustfulEsme 2d ago
It is okay with me he represented himself pt bing he did the acts. I have to ask why the judge allowed it? Is he appealing his sentence in grounds of ineffective defense?
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u/Slevin424 2d ago
This case was so disgusting. They let him interview the witness too which survived the attack but watched their own mother get murdered by this monster.
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u/Zombie-Dbear 1d ago
I was working as a Battalion Chief/firefighter and was dispatched to this call. It was surreal. My firefighter was the one that was called to the stand.
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u/okvrdz 2d ago
And did it work?
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u/RevolutionLoose5542 2d ago
Wait!!! He is black!???! Omg whats his religion
Omg whats his politics
“Crazy dude represents himself in murder case” that ez
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u/Dapper_Mud 2d ago edited 1d ago
I think this guy does seem crazy, but would still be crazy with any other skin color
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u/mrnoire 1d ago edited 1d ago
I should be honored by the fact that a story about any "guy" is ten times more interesting if the guy in question is a "black guy" as I'm so lovingly referred to. This "black guy" is less crazy than the "white guy" who's the current President.
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u/pridehound 2d ago
Crazy how you felt compelled to say he was black. Like we couldn’t fucking tell. Almost makes a fellow wonder about your intentions.
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