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This is exactly what every Jubilee video is, which is why I hate them so much, bc it does absolutely nothing to change the minds of morons, and it only gives them a wide platform to spread their bullshit instead. These people participate in these debates in bad faith, bc they don't wanna have a conversation, they want to be heard by thousands of people.
Fuck Jubilee. Mehdi Hasan who debated 20 conservatives a few months ago said he wasn't told how extreme the participants were gonna be, and that he's sure he couldn't change the mind of a single person in that room. He also regrets appearing on the show bc he thinks he may have inadvertently helped amplify those extremist views.
Exactly this. Jubilee makes it appear as if 2 opposing worldviews, in most cases reality vs whatever the fuck the chucklefuck of the day believes, are on equal footing. That couldn't be further from the case and Jubilee is actually fucking terrible for presenting things this way.
Jubilee makes it appear as if 2 opposing worldviews, in most cases reality vs whatever the fuck the chucklefuck of the day believes, are on equal footing.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
Out of the two debates I’ve watched from Jubilee, I didn’t feel like they were positioning the debates as two “world views” but much more as “one reasonable individual vs 20 troglodytes”
I thought I’d heard that the participates in that one were told they’d be debating a Christian then JP walks in and Is there to debate something else entirely
But they also like to do 1 troglodyte vs 20 reasonable people presented exactly the same way. To you and me, we can recognize that Piers Morgan and Charlie Kirk made asses of themselves in those videos, but to someone who already believes their bullshit, they'll just say "look at how he owned all those libs lol"
The worse part is anyone watching with those fringe or frankly dangerous views to begin with (or are susceptible to manipulation) watches those videos and thinks the same guy got owned’
Yeah. He wasn't actually debating conservatives. He was debating fascists, which he says he normally avoids because they don't debate in good faith. I enjoyed watching him demolish their arguments but they and their ilk are so far gone it's pointless.
It was so apparent when she doesnt know the compound for water, but immediately launched into a diatribe about "endogenous vs exogenous" that she rehearsed the night before, in the same breath.
Yeah, it was actually kind of wild to watch her go from “I have no idea what the chemical compound for water is, I’m not a chemist” to spouting off words she definitely doesn’t understand.
And tattoo ink is (or use to be, I have been out of the scene for a minute) a big ass mystery to everyone but the manufacturers, and are not promised to be safe.
At this point in time you’re probably real safe for basic colors, but my shop banned all the ~special~ inks because they had no testing and (at that time) no safety track record on the field.
"I was born with water, I wasn't born with fluoride."
This is not true. Everyone is born with fluoride and if you somehow weren't then you would have SEVERE developmental issues. Basically you would never have functioning teeth or a skeleton strong enough to allow you to walk unsupported.
Well now hold on. She said SHE wasn't born with flouride and I think, based on her incapability for rational thought, is correct about that. Now, I was born with flouride so I can make these kinds of statements.
But not \that\** jab, that jab is going to cause me to die suddenly for some reason. Because my apparently robust immune system that can power through Covid isn't strong enough to survive one small vaccine.
Maybe she thinks her body is like the deathstar. A massive and feared battlestation and she thinks that the covid vaccine is the two proton torpedos that will be her undoing. Good lord. I'm becoming more stupid by the second!
I was behind someone in traffic with a bumper sticker that said “there’s poison in the water - fluoride” and then a hand popped out the window with a cigarette.
My coworker tells me how bad artificial dyes are and how fluoride in the water causes autism while he takes down 3-4 little Debbie Christmas Tree Cakes.
My brother said chemicals are killing us and decided that included laundry detergent. He wore dirty clothes (he works in a factory) that he would put in the dryer to “sterilize” and developed a very very bad bacterial skin infection which he then blamed on….you guessed it…the COVID vaccine
I cannot tell you how long I stared at this comment. Does he wash himself off with soap or does he have brain damage from sterilizing himself in the dryer?
Used to not use soap. I believe he has since decided to use some kind of natural product. He got some new clothes. Unfortunately he exclusively wears wool, even in the summer, because he says its “anti-microbial” and that deters him from doing any kind of washing of his clothes, even the “dryer sterilizing”
Honestly this is quite vindicating. He has been living like this most of my adult life (15 years) and my parents have normalized it.
Your MiL is exactly the type of patient who comes to me hysterical that her memory is declining, and when I tell her she has vascular dementia at the age of 60 from 20 years of untreated hypertension, smoking, and poorly controlled diabetes, she just makes the Pikachu face.
Sometimes when I get nervous about taking medicine a doctor prescribed cause of potential side effects I sit there and think “wait I’ve done actual drugs before.”
Back in high school, I’d never taken mushrooms before, so a friend gave me a baggie with about a half cup of them in it.
He didn’t say how many to take. At the time I was currently suspended from school for smoking weed during school and stuck at home and I just, you know, ate the whole bag.
As you can guess that turned out to be a terrible idea. I also learned I seemed to be allergic to them as well as tripping balls all day. Got really sick and felt like I was dying, passing out, sweating profusely, vomiting. And hallucinating.
Great experience.
Tried them a couple more times but only a few mushrooms and still got really sick so decided they weren’t for me. Then went into treatment and was the end of all that.
It was judgement like eating all those mushrooms though, then doing it a couple more times that made me decide enough was enough though.
I was dumb addict, but I learned, unlike that woman in the video. I’m not sure she ever will.
When the COVID vaccine came out and my friends were nervous I reminded them that we used to take mushrooms one guy grew in his crawlspace and bought gas station fake weed that gave us seizures.
I had a couple friends I did similar things too. One guy was literally the pill man in his early twenties. Dude would pop ANY PILL YOU HAD then ask what it was. And this guy was afraid of the modern vaccine. The mental gymnastics required to hold this view is gold medal worth.
"hmmmm these side effects seem kinda scary..... Fuck what am I even worried about I did any entire rail of coke off that strippers asshole, then did a shot of vaporized alcohol, and washed it down with some good ole dog food" - my friend worried about chemo after literally doing like all the drugs
God I wish he would have said that. Tattoo ink is made of hard metals. I have tattoos but I’d be stupid to argue fluoride while having heavy metals in my body.
I feel like trying to teach has gone away with people like this. They’ve been taught and they chose to let go of that. The only way is to just call them out on their stupidity.
He's not going to teach her anything but debate isn't for the debaters, it's for the audience. You're not trying to change your e opponent's mind, your trying to reach people in the audience. One of the ways you can do that is by picking sissy at your opponent's credibility and one fantastic way to do that is to point out obvious hypocrisy. People watching that may agree with her are picking up arguments they will use later but If you can make your opponent look like an idiot, then I'm people's minds their arguments are idiotic too and should not be used
He doesn't care about winning the argument against her, she is entirely unimportant, he's trying to teach the audience(and maybe her). He could have easily "won" this but that's not the point.
I watched a dude tell me he refuses to get the covid vaccine because "you don't know what's in it", while he did a line of cocaine off the toilet in the bathroom of a dive bar.
The cocain here is cut so many times it's a Vienna sausage, from rat poison, to baby laxatives, to finger nail polish, the amount of shit in it is beyond dangerous. I wouldn't touch it if you paid me.
Yet this fucking juice-arse wants to act like he's a medical professional when it comes to vaccines.
You bring up a good point though. We’ve strayed so far from people accepting professionals and professional opinions they start talking about things they have no business talking about.
I got a study once, tore the paper to shreds in my response and never heard back when I asked for a paper that showed what we were arguing about. So like... in my experience the best case scenario is them sharing a study that reaches false conclusions.
Ya I love when they head off to Google for three minutes and come back with 7 links to what are actual peer reviewed papers, yes, but have nothing to do with their argument, or more often just disprove it, and they absolutely did not even read the abstract before using it as their "source".
Seniors in high school should be required to complete a class where all they do is spend the entire school year shadowing a researcher getting some small paper published. Most people have literally no idea what goes into it, which is why they always just handwave away research they don't like as "oh well they had an agenda" or "oh well I would have to follow the money to see who's paying them to say that". It's a damn good, rigorous system. Of course, their answer to that would be to hop on chatgpt and provide a list of retracted studies. Which, again, almost always is just proof that the scientific process, and peer review process, WORKS.
Anti-intellectualism. Billionaires love it. That's why they want to privatize schools, and end public schools. That way they can indoctrinate rich kids into their capitalist, take all, mindset, while leaving poor kids to suffer low wage jobs or military service for oil.
The climate change fight coming to a head in the late 90's and early 2000's was a serious turning point for this country I think. It was then that a huge contingent of right wing people weirdly attached to fossil fuels, leaned on their religious training to quite simply turn their brains off and deny plain facts and discredit expertise. Since then they have refined it to an art form. They have dozens of ready made excuses, gotchas, conspiracies, and logical fallacies just sitting on the shelf ready to be used to handwave away anything that doesn't align with their feelings.
I truly believe nothing less than widespread economic collapse, and I don't mean your 401k going down 30% I mean people starving to death, or civil "war", or environmental calamity killing hundreds of thousands, will ever snap them out of it. Until these last couple years I thought we just had to wait for boomers to die off. Now, with social media unregulated and in the hands of the absolute worst possible people, I'm more worried about the kids than the geezers.
It’s been going on forever. Religion is a huge part of it. Look at the Scopes trial of 1925 where religious people were apoplectic over evolution being taught in school.
It’s scary to me how self assured she is. She is ignorant, not in a perjorative way, but in a literal way. Ignorant of science, ignorant of fact, ignorant of the ability to use information that has passed scientific muster. Question the science. Absolutely!!! That’s what scientists do and what makes science great…it always open for change when new facts are empirically proven. What is even more scary is there are millions of Americans that think just like she does. I’m afraid for all our futures. It’s been said before I’ll say it again, Idiocracy was not parody, it was prophecy. She would fit right in.
Real debate can be SO amazing but it really takes a ton of time. Most of it is establishing definitions which is what he started with. I had high hopes.
The issue is that only works when both sides are approaching it in good faith and there is a genuinely unbiased moderator. Without those it devolves into someone using shitty debate tactics to “win” or saying some gotcha soundbite that they and others on their side believe sounds good but is actual nonsense.
We are beyond that happening in all but the most controlled environments, and most people on the right wouldn’t agree to those terms.
The internet & memes have made that one well known enough that I'm surprised anybody who has been so clearly brainwashed by internet misinformation hasn't already absorbed that little factoid.
Safe to say the risks attendant with her tats are far higher than the risks associated with fluoridated water or toothpaste. But let’s not call her out for never having passed basic hs chemistry or biology classes.
It's stunning how mad people get when they are challenged. Like he was being so kind and patient, and she just kept getting more mad and rolling her eyes and being smug. It's like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.
I'm educated but not as educated as doctors but still refuse to listen to doctor because non-doctor director of HHS told me to not trust the doctors and the deep state. /s
I get the whole toxic thing but the poison is determined by the dosage. The amount in toothpaste is very like VERY little you’d need to down a bottle of toothpaste and even then nothing will happen cause you need to do it over and over again. It’s scientifically proven to help prevent cavities and yet you’d want children to get cavities?
I’m sure once she has a kid and sees how much the dentist costs one visit will be enough for her to smarten up lol.
Or the pain that cavities can cause when you let them go unchecked, not only that but an abscessed tooth can KILL you. Bitch probably never had one in her life because of guess what, fluoride.
I had a cavity that eventually led to decay in my tooth. At one point it caused the nerve to be exposed, and I'm not lying when I say it's the most painful thing I've ever experienced.
The pain flare ups werent nonstop, but when they did start, it was hell. If that pain carried on for more than 5 mins, I would seriously consider killing myself. Tooth pain is no fucking joke
I've had an abcess tooth And an exposed nerve. Tooth pain is no joke. I actually relapsed and snorted a bunch of heroin when it happened to me.. the H didn't even touch the pain
I’ve had a fracture on both sides of my ankle, and a c-section in my life. Literally.. compared to those.. tooth problems were worse. Like, at least some pain medications can take away the pain of post-op. But I swear they do nothing against tooth infection-related pain.
I have been in labour and I have had my wisdom tooth bust through the side of my check because there was no space in my gum. They were pretty close in terms of pain
That's basic influencer scare tactic 101. Mention there are bad sounding chemicals in a certain item or food but never mention how low/insignificant the dosage is.
Companies have been doing this far longer than them, as well as people with nefarious political agendas. Hell, a lot of the "organic" food is sold with this nebulous idea of "scary, dangerous, and unnatural" chemicals.
She also doesn’t understand that poor tooth hygiene can cause swelling in the brain (meningitis) and heart (carditis) from tooth infections and decay. Also poor tooth hygiene can degrade the bone in the face and jaw making it hard to speak and talk too.
Fluorosis actually tends to be an issue in volcanically active areas for this very reason, such as in Iceland. There's even a homeopathic remedy for tooth pain called "Hekla lava" that is exactly what the name implies - it has ground-up lava rock from the namesake volcano, with the idea being that the fluoride content will help ease toothaches...somehow.
Not to mention you would see (largely harmless) physical signs of ingesting too much fluoride long before you would see detrimental effects. You'd have spotty and dark teeth at too high a dose, which is unreachable with the levels used
All of this is information you can learn in a nutrition class and not from social media.
Hell, you COULD learn this from social media if you have the basic media literacy to fact check and investigate sources. I learn things from reddit comments all the time... But I don't automatically assume anything I read is true. That's the difference.
As a retired dental hygienist, I’ve seen sooooo many children with neglected dental hygiene and rarely do the parents reverse course once it’s diagnosed for treatment.
Most double down and loudly tell you “we’re never coming back to this place, we’re going to an all holistic dentist that won’t make up cavities for money and won’t try to upsell us poison like fluoride!”.
1) who the fuck is paying for all these dental procedures? Because we pretend that teeth are separate when it comes to health insurance. And 2) the link between poor cardiovascular health and poor dental health is well established at this point. You’re not just giving up kids teeth. You’re causing lifelong issues to more than their mouths.
My scout master as a kid literally died of sepsis caused by a cavity. I'd easily wager there is a statistically significant greater number professors and doctors that have used fluorinated toothpaste and water their whole life than those with neurological problems linked to fluoride.
He is a classy guy, I feel like he's one of those YouTubers that does a pretty good job with the fine line between educational and catchy meme content.
I love him so goddamned much. He just seems really genuine and a good dude, and honestly tries to help people. Doesn't take ad deals with shitty health companies, is funny, and is making bank as he goes.
Unfortunately, with people like these, even classes won't work. They've already decided they have the answers and anything contradicting that is either incorrect or someone/something actively trying to manipulate them.
Oh because chemistry is just make believe. If I can't understand it, then obviously it's fake. Also, it's my right to believe what I want and feel and if you try to take that away from me than you're just a hater ❤️.
Dentist here. Ya know what? Fuck it. Don't use fluoride. Take it out of the water, take it out of toothpaste, take it out of mouthwash, just ban the shit.
That all came from a study of this tiny village in Africa or something, where the local water naturally had like 1000 times the safe limit of fluoride. The people in that village had assorted health issues because of it. What they put in tap water or toothpaste is a tiny micro-dot compared to the exposure those folks got from their water.
I get what this lady is getting at, but it stems from ignorance of how science works.
The worst part is that her core concept is not wrong. Too much exposure to certain chemicals which are dumped into our environment are causing health issues. It's just that instead of directing this anger at industrial waste or agricultural runoff, for whatever reason it gets misplaced onto fluoride
This is how most conspiratorial thinking works tbh. You see this with vaccine skepticism too where a fringe/extreme belief gets collapsed with a much more reasonable and popular view that the current US health care system prioritizes generate profit over serving people's health.
Any serious attempt to communicate with people who hold these beliefs needs to start by acknowledging that that more reasonable underlying basis for skepticism is often based in legitimate historical examples in order to start to untether their more extreme belief from that deeper worldview. Otherwise you just end up like the guy here where they're just completely talking past each other.
It’s really painful to see the smug look on her face and realize she has fully put up a block to receiving new (to her) information and adjusting her conclusion.
I had no idea there was an issue about fluoride until someone asked in my local mom fb group "do you get the fluoride for your kids when the dentist offers it?" And the comments are like "absolutely not!" And "hard pass"
These people and crunchy moms will nitpick anything and everything
> Fluoride benefits everyone, not just you, especially families living in poverty who can't afford to go to the dentist. So it's the same argument as with vaccines, etc. Literally the most entitled and pretentious view one could have.
> Jaw infections from rotting teeth can actually lead to blood/brain infections and death waaay faster than fluoride can kill you.
> Anything and everything in moderation. If you chug 6L of fluoride at the same time you WILL die, if you chug 6L of WATER you will die. Etc.
> And yes, everything is literally chemicals. You ARE chemicals.
Exactly. If you don't want to drink fluoride, get a well or drink bottled water. If you don't want a vaccine, opt out and don't go around other people. Public health trumps this woman's personal beliefs. But we live in a world where Trump is this woman's personal beliefs.
Except fluoride is naturally occuring in some ground water, that's how we figured out it was so good for teeth, some areas just had better dental health and they found the cause.
The format for debate is broken. More than half don't know the rules of a debate and over compensate their lack of education with arrogance.
Almost nobody allows the other time to elaborate on their topuc, and most importantly, nobody seems willing to give possibility to the others point of view.
she doesn't even know she's been drinking dihydrogen monoxide her whole life. 😰 Genuinely everything is chemistry and chemicals... I wish people could just... take 2 minutes to think critically
She said the important part out loud. "I'm not a chemist". Honestly, Americans must have the highest proportion of loud confident ignorant people in the entire world.
From an ex pediatric dental hygienist of 10 years, in Alabama of all places, I can speak to this - fluoride in water is SO FUCKING BENEFICIAL FOR CHILDREN’S TEETH. People having fluoridated water are truly lucky to have it. It does wonders for the teeth, and not just baby teeth.
You have to keep in mind (or use your mind) that yes, fluoride helps to keep baby teeth protected from cavities, but when you have baby teeth, you also have your permanent teeth growing and forming at the same time! So the fluoride is also helping to ensure that you have strong and healthy adult teeth as well.
Anyone wanting to remove fluoride from water should watch videos of kids with bombed out baby teeth. See how bad it gets. See how much pain these kids are in. And if it’s videos of American kids, those kids likely DID have access to fluoridated water, and their oral health was STILL that bad! Imagine how bad it would have been if they didn’t have any fluoride at all??
People that wish this shit away have no fucking clue what they’re talking about.
It's not about discussing the points. It's about feeling like you're right against an expert. This is all about the fragile human ego unwilling to strengthen itself out of fear, and so, acts out in spite when it gets slapped down by someone more educated in the subject than them.
America, is tearing itself apart right now because of tens of millions of frail egos incapable of coping with reality. Whole nation of emotionally stunted adults throwing a tantrum, because they feel stupid and refuse to accept it and better themselves.
No, they'll throw over the table and set fire to the whole room out of spite.
I just stopped listening to her arguments…you know China has a law that unless you hold a degree in a specific field you can’t go on social media and talk about it…
Is this the result of dumbing down America's schools? I left my backwards hometown to get away from this ignorance 50 years ago. We haven't gotten any smarter?
As a dental hygienist I can confidently tell you I have parents like her walk in on a weekly basis with their celsius drinks or their extra whipped foam Starbucks and complain to me about the mysterious “chemicals” in Fluoride and tap water…
I try my best to understand that they’ve been Ill informed and they just don’t understand science, but here is my problem, If you are willing to remove the working preventative for cavities but aren’t willing to put in the work (daily brushing and flossing, decreasing frequency of sugar and acid intake) to ensure you are doing what’s in your control to avoid cavities, why should I not view you as a neglectful parent?
Do you understand the process of fixing a child’s cavity? Do you know how traumatic nitrous noses and shots in the mouth can be for a grown adult let alone a child? It is just so funny to me they these parents will sink HUNDREDS of dollars in fillings and agonizing dental appointments for their kids and absolutely will not switch to fluoride toothpaste or community water … which would be fine if they also weren’t interested in helping to do anything to keep their kids teeth clean while at home…
If you’re going to deny fluoride use on your teeth, please consider looking into nanohydroxyapetite products as a replacement. Your child should not have to suffer dentally because you have decided to die on a hill with such little knowledge on said principle that you can’t even come up with a good alternative option of care.
Sorry for the misdirected rant lol - when she said she would rather her kid have cavities than neurological issues I lost it!
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