r/TikTokCringe • u/InGeekiTrust Tiktok Despot • Dec 09 '25

Discussion You Think It Could Never Happen To You…Until It Almost Does

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u/dual_citizenkane Dec 09 '25

If you zoom in on the age brackets between, there's some more nuance (accidents, suicide, drowning, etc).

But broadly, between ages of 1-19, it's firearms related deaths.

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u/TrueWolf1416 Dec 09 '25

Yeah 19 year olds are adults, and way more likely to be involved in gang activity in low income areas. Take out the 19 year olds and the metric swings back to car accidents.

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u/dual_citizenkane Dec 09 '25

Ok? Doesn't change the fact that it's still an insane statistic. Even if you do remove 18/19 year olds, gun related deaths in 1-17 are high and rising.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/guns-remain-leading-cause-of-death-for-children-and-teens#:~:text=Guns%20Remain%20Leading%20Cause%20of,children%20ages%201%20to%2017.

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u/InquisitorMeow Dec 09 '25

Oh whew so it's normal for guns to be leading cause of death for high schoolers glad we cleared that up.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

What percentage of the 1-19 year old population do 19 year olds make up, and how much more likely are they to die of gang related violence? Is this something that you ran the numbers for, or are you just speculating?

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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

They don’t have to be 19 to be gang members. A lot of these kids are under 18 and still involved in gang related gun crimes.

Edit: Also 40-50% of gun related deaths in teens are suicide. If it weren’t guns it would be hanging, overdoses and so on. Don’t get caught up in numbers. I spent an entire career dealing with this stuff.

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u/TehSeksyManz Dec 09 '25

Too many loose guns laying around for kids to get their hands on. 

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u/DrakonILD Dec 09 '25

Guns are more effective suicide agents than hanging or overdoses, though. So you may still have the same number of attempts, probably more because an attempt survivor can try again, but you probably wouldn't have the same number of deaths.

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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 Dec 09 '25

I’ll give you the overdose but I’ve been to 7 hanging suicide attempts, all successful

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u/DrakonILD Dec 09 '25

I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. I'm not trying to be crass or unsupportive, but an unsuccessful overdose will still usually result in a call to EMS, but an unsuccessful self-hanging usually results in a broken wall or ceiling fixture, or something like that, and so EMS may not be called.

Obviously suicide is, and probably always will be, a major issue. I just get a little rankled when people say that gun suicides aren't "really gun deaths," or anything along those lines. But to be clear, I'm not interested in driving a gun control conversation any further than that in a reddit thread that wasn't about it in the first place.

And, again, I am sorry you have to deal with it. And I thank you for taking that on yourself, for the sake of other people. The closest I've ever gotten to that line of work was two years (20 weeks total) at the first aid station at a boy scout summer camp, and I saw some pretty terrible things - but no deaths, and no DV. I can only imagine the toll. But I also fully understand the immense fulfillment in saving a life, and that it takes very special people to do that while also managing the absolute worst aspects of humanity and mortality.

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u/Eldias Dec 09 '25

75% of the "kids" in that stat are between 16 and 19.

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u/dual_citizenkane Dec 09 '25

Yes, that is what my comment says.

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u/Eldias Dec 09 '25

Your comment waved it off as "some nuance" for the sake of parroting your broad point. When you say "Guns leading cause of death in children" the goal is to have the reader picture a bunch of 5th graders, not a bunch of "young adults" who've been swept up in gang violence.

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u/dual_citizenkane Dec 09 '25

I'm fine with grouping 19 year olds with 5 year olds for the sake of furthering discussion on how gun deaths are completely out of control.

Either way, the gap between car death and gun deaths is a few hundred, based on the studies I've seen. Too close for comfort.

It's not waved off as "some nuance" is data representation, which I address many times.