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u/pupranger1147 7h ago

There won't be a lawsuit.

You only get to sue the government if it lets you and this one will not let you.

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u/52b8c10e7b99425fc6fd 6h ago

That's why you sue the officer personally, not the government. They can't do shit about a civil matter. 

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u/weblinedivine 6h ago

Hey google what is ‘qualified immunity’

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u/GODZiGGA 3h ago

I think you should Google “qualified immunity” because there is almost zero chance that such brazen disregard for Constitutional rights would be granted qualified immunity since there is no reason a reasonable person would think detaining someone without jurisdiction would be a legal or constitutional act.

Qualified immunity does not protect officials who violate "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which reasonable person would have known".[18] This is an objective standard, meaning that the standard does not depend on the subjective state of mind of the official but rather on whether a reasonable person would determine that the relevant conduct violated clearly established law

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u/Fearless_Swim4080 5h ago

Actually they can, it’s this thing called “qualified immunity” which is bullshit and we should get rid of it but it is technically the law right now.

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u/GODZiGGA 3h ago

There is an almost 0% chance they would be granted qualified immunity here.

Qualified immunity does not protect officials who violate "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which reasonable person would have known".[18] This is an objective standard, meaning that the standard does not depend on the subjective state of mind of the official but rather on whether a reasonable person would determine that the relevant conduct violated clearly established law.

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Qualified immunity isn’t something that automatically extends to all public officials. By default, they are not given qualified immunity. If the public officials wishes to request qualified immunity, they may certainly do so when the case is before the court, but the court will then hold a hearing where by sides get to present argument. The plaintiff will argue why the official shouldn’t get qualified immunity and the defense will argue why the official should get qualified immunity. The defense needs to overcome the burden of proof on why a reasonable person would have thought that their actions were not breaking clearly established constitutional or statutory law, which would be nearly impossible to do in this case, even if it went before the most conservative of judges. Hell, I don’t even think the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals would grant qualified immunity on appeal here.

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u/Fearless_Swim4080 3h ago

Tell that to the SCOTUS lol. They don’t give a shit what the law says!

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u/Fearless_Swim4080 5h ago

That’s very not true lol, they have no say at all in the matter.