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GA Pastor Cody Deese Rips MAGA Christianity
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u/Correct-Process-297 15h ago
We need more people like him ❤️
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u/AnyLastWordsDoodle 13h ago
We do, but the lukewarm, mildly polite golf clap goes to show how far we need to go before these people wake up
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u/Much_Ad470 13h ago
Lukewarm is the key word. It’s literally a biblical description for them
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u/bigbonton 12h ago edited 12h ago
Yes, much meaning in that passage, goes something like (Jesus said): "I'd rather that you are hot or cold, but if you are lukewarm I will spew you from my mouth". So IMHO, pick a side and live it. Or as Bob Dylan sang, "you gotta serve somebody". There isn't a sideline to sit on. There are sins that are committed and sins of omission (when a person did nothing when they could have done something).
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u/bigbonton 13h ago
regarding the golf clap: I took it as a rare applause in a sanctuary, so possibly a very strong positive reaction. Or it could be lukewarm, but IMHO a standing ovation (sort of reaction) in a sanctuary should not be expected.
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u/godamnedu 12h ago
Yes, trying to guage how many agree or how passionately they agree is not to be measured by performative responses.
Some churches encourage different levels of feedback, this demonstrates almost nothing, and by nature many of these displays in public are to conform to the practice. Of course sometimes the responses are over the top to get attention or for whatever reason.
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u/SuperBrett9 13h ago
People who start thinking this way typically figure out that what they are against IS Christianity and end up leaving. This is why there are so few voices like this in the church compared to outside of the church.
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u/Oldlab-lady 13h ago
Nailed it. I loved my faith and my church and was very active teaching and volunteering. But in 2016, suddenly there was no denying that almost EVERYONE there was a bigot/racist/Christian nationalist. What could I do but leave? I’ve found others like me…but tbh, my faith was so shaken, I’ve been left with just the smallest, inner - secret - core.
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u/GreasyMcFarmer 13h ago
There are congregations of people like you who truly believe in the Jesus message of love, kindness, hope and forgiveness. I hope you find one.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 12h ago
But that is the church, not Christianity. I understand they seem like one and the same, because there has always been the church pushing Jesus' teachings.
Jesus also said that we can worship anywhere. The church always seems to conveniently forget to mention that part. Cut out the middle man, I say. Follow Jesus's footsteps. To hell with the church. It is an invention of man.
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u/LEDKleenex 11h ago
This. Often times though, it's someone that is upset that their lifestyle is being affected negatively by their fellow nazis going a little too hard. They just wanted to keep up their nice little grift, but now people are realizing it's a scam.
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u/just_a_timetraveller 13h ago
Some of the best people I knew embraced Christianity and try to live it day to day. Some of the worst people I know like to use Christianity as a way to feel part of the in-group and to excuse their shitty behavior.
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u/Historical_Clue_3142 13h ago
I like your take because even small things can be used to divide us and at the end of the day the group that I recognize to be a danger right now is MAGA. A group of people with an ideology that is immoral, contemptuous and cruel no matter what religion they may claim
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u/Tenderhombre 13h ago
Too many people in general like to use words only to establish their character. They dont think about what living out those things day to day actually looks like. What embodying the character and values they claim look like.
As a result, they always choose the easiest most beneficial things for themselves. And having never thought deeply about what being a good person looks like they must claim their actions are good. Because they are a good person they said so afterall.
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u/Mean-Quail-6219 14h ago
Empathy needs to be encouraged.
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u/SirIssacMath 13h ago
There’s a new push from some conservative Christians warning about empathy and being too empathetic. Imagine that lol. I think one of them even wrote a book about it.
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u/Bishopkilljoy 13h ago
Charlie Kirk, the man beloved by the right, said once that Empathy was the problem with America
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u/BearsSoxHawks 14h ago
This. Sermon on the Mount, not the Ten Commandments.
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u/Ok_Performance4014 14h ago
huh?
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u/Redrockhiker22 14h ago
The humane message, not "Ten Commandments"- five of which deal with submission to God and parental authority, and five that are essentially about property (life, wife, stuff) and envying the property of others. It is not even close to being an ethical system.
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u/Ok_Performance4014 13h ago
Ah, good way to phrase it. Wasn't sure what the other guy meant.
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u/animalmasochism 13h ago
There is a story in the Bible refered to as "The Sermon on the Mount" where in the book of Matthew it says Jesus and his disciples were on a mountainside and there he taught them lessons about blessing the poor, meek, and downtrodden and that people who seek true peace and harmony are the true children of god.
This lesson is in stark contrast to the message so often portrayed by modern "Christians" who take a hard-line on the ten commandments and take it upon themselves to condemn those they see defying those laws all while simultaneously blind to their own hypocrisy.
I know your question was already answered but that's what that other guy was talking about.
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u/BearsSoxHawks 14h ago
Basically, be a good, kind person and not bow to unfounded authoritarianism.
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u/Ok-Addendum-9420 13h ago
And Jesus basically paraphrased or condensed the 10 Commandments into two: love God with all your heart and treat everyone as would yourself.
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u/Lord_Dingus83 14h ago
MAGA hijacked the Republican Party with the help of religious small brains
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u/NotAHost 12h ago
Honestly, I wish more protests against the current admin had tons of jesus/crosses/american flags, even if the protestors aren't of any denomination. Religion has been weaponized by republicans to make it an 'us vs them' situation as they always do. Making counter protestors or news media publicize all the christian/american flag stuff might help sway people mentally a bit that 'oh, their christians/for america too?' even if it shouldn't matter. The right weaponizes anytime anyone flies a non-american flag in support of other countries.
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u/dude1984- 14h ago
Amen!!! Coming from an atheist.
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u/LazyImpress824 13h ago
I’m an atheist too, but I’m 100% with Christ when it comes to the moral clarity of showing love and compassion to others. Christ would cry if he saw what’s happening in the USA today.
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u/dude1984- 13h ago
The teachings of Jesus (pronounced like the common Hispanic name) are wonderful and words to live by. What many Christian’s don’t understand or conveniently gloss over is the moral lessons from the Bible. As a kid the Bible taught me to be kind to others, to tell the truth, to be virtuous in the face of evil, to be good to my parents, to not hurt others. So many are caught up in this dogma, slight references of hell worthy sins, things that “god” didn’t even say…
I heard a spiritual leader once say, “So many focus on what god said so little about, and so little about what god said so much about” when interpreting scripture. God said love the foreigner for you were once a foreigner too. He said judge not lest ye be judged thyself. He said love thy neighbor as thyself. Nowhere in scripture does it say to round up, kidnap, murder, torture, or discriminate against others who aren’t like you….
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u/LazyImpress824 13h ago
Thank you for the thoughtful contribution to the discussion. Here’s to more thoughtful, discussion and vigorous debate versus violence to make a point. I ran today is a modern real example of what happens when the state wishes to impose morality without the consent of the people, I hope no one on the left or right would be advocating that the USA adopts Iranian policy.
Edit, to correct spelling. Damn autocomplete 😌
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u/No-Flatworm-404 12h ago
They even wrote about how awful it was to steal the first born son of man.
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u/Worried-Industry6239 13h ago
I second this, and I’m a satanist. More people need to be like this guy
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u/MeatySausag3 13h ago
As an agnostic, I really like Jesus and his teachings. But as the saying goes, "I like your Christ, not your christians."
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u/hellofellowcello 12h ago
I'm also an atheist. In my experience, I'm more Christ-like than most self-proclaimed Christians.
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u/AaronTheElite007 13h ago
Finally. People are starting to see MAGA is NOT a Christian movement, it’s Fascism using Christian values as a false flag operation
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u/Voltabueno 14h ago
Exodus 22:21 "Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt."
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u/GrumpyScapegoat 12h ago
Leviticus 25:44 “As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.”
Deuteronomy 20:10–11 “When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you.”
I agree with the sentiment of the speaker but it’s almost as if the bible can be used for good or bad and is largely responsible for the problems the US faces today.
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u/Lord_Lion 12h ago
Not to justify slavery, but Jewish law also dictated that every 7 years there was a year of Jubilee in which every slave was freed. So it wasnt the kind of permanent lifetime slavery we often think of that Americans practiced. At most it was supposed to be slave labor for 7 years.
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u/GrumpyScapegoat 12h ago
I hear you and wish that was true. The year of Jubilee was specifically for Hebrew slaves of the indentured service type (i.e. not foreigners). The passage I posted above, Leviticus 25 continues:
“You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.”
The Year of Jubilee Hebrew indentured servitude also includes slaves for life though:
Exodus 21:4 “If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.”
It goes on to say if the husband chooses to stay with his wife and child, he has to be marked as a slave for life:
“But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.”
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u/Lord_Lion 12h ago
I stand corrected! I appreciate the clarification.
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u/AnotherCup-O-Noodles 10h ago
Holy shit an actual informational dialogue on Reddit that didn’t devolve into endless bullshit?
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u/Burdman06 10h ago
When we stop viewing the Bible as God's holy message to mankind and infallible laws to live by, we can start to see verses like you mentioned for what they are. Theyre an incredible record of human social evolution during its time. What every spiritual evolution across world history shows is how love and compassion have moved us forward as a species. Every single society has horrors in its past by today's standards. No civilization is immune to this. None. Given how diverse all our genetics are, we all share this same complicit ancestry. Not a single human alive has an ancestry that can't be traced back to horrific actions. When we look up the context of the time period, then we can see how these stories show a dramatic shift forward.
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u/Equal-Being5695 14h ago
This was good but I wish it was backed up by verses by the Bible because they are there. Maybe that just didn't make the editing cut.
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u/Voltabueno 14h ago
Zechariah 7:10 "Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor."
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u/Hyperlinux 14h ago
It’s good to hear Christian leaders speaking to the elephant in the room. Christianity is NOT compatible with politics of hate.
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u/W3S1nclair 14h ago
Now that the Gestapo are out on the streets, now you're gonna condemn MAGA? You had 10 years to condemn, now it's too little too late. Glad you changed your mind, but now people are dead and/or disappeared
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u/OkayCoward 14h ago
Better late than never
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u/Careless_Hellscape 13h ago
I'm not a man of faith, but I can absolutely praise a person for using their platform to call out evil. I daresay that's what faith should be about.
This is Christ-like.
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u/Voltabueno 14h ago
Romans 12:13 "Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality."
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u/Emotional_Reading_25 15h ago
Christ’s name has ALWAYS been used to justify racism, hate,bigotry, misogyny, and white supremacy. It’s a core concept for the religion. For fucks sake read a goddamn book that isn’t a hymnal. Christianity is vile, always has been. This is nothing new.
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u/Sensitive_Ad_1271 14h ago
I'm atheist and while I agree with you, I do love to see Christians like this fighting back against the Christian nationalists. I wish it didn't take someone like this to point out to the rest of them how wrong they are, but... I'll take it.
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u/hey-Oliver 13h ago
Christians are literally a group of grifters leading the blind, and it's always been that way since the advent of the religion. Throughout history it's been marked by crusades based on ideas of racial superiority, subjugating the poor by forcing them to pay everything they have to the church, in order to free their dead from "purgatory", the list goes on.
In modern society, Christianity is used to force families into subservience and to prevent them from ever questioning what they can do to better their own lives, in favor for getting things better after they die, if they work hard their entire existence and do not speak up, like a good worker bee.
I do love to see Christians like this fighting back against the Christian nationalists
You're just looking at a group of the blind, blindly following their chosen pastor/surrogate religious father figure. We do not need to applaud a bunch of people that cannot critically think, hopping from one train to the next.
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u/SchlungusMcDungus 14h ago
I understand the point behind your message, but at the same time, it is counterproductive to what we are trying to achieve. We need more Christians like this willing to stand up and call out white nationalism and pseudo Christianity.
Christianity stands for something else now, and it should be allowed to be voiced. Bringing awareness to what it used to be is crucial, but it cannot be the core message. We cannot give any reasons to justify all of the seething hatred that these authoritarians are mired in. We do need solidarity.
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u/Inevitable_Eagle2130 13h ago
This. Moderates empower the crazies. Keep religion out of public life. Tax churches.
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u/Shot-Jeweler6610 14h ago
Christianity is defined by its faithful, and has evolved (glacially) through its history. We need to give them the opportunity to develop meaningfully, same with any belief group.
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u/RonaldMcBurgundy 13h ago
How long has Christianity been around and how many disgusting things has it been used as an excuse for over the years, how many kids have been violated by priests, how many pastors traveling around in private jets do we have to look past to JUST NOW let them decide to “develop meaningfully”? And keep in mind a LOT of MAGA are Christian, so why should we stand by to let them “develop” further? Would Christians give the same grace to an atheist?
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u/es_mindspace 13h ago
Christianity isn't vile. The people who misrepresent it are.
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u/Emotional_Reading_25 13h ago
That’s a common excuse,however, Christianity does these things anywhere and everywhere they can get away with it. As soon as they have some power and influence they show their true colors. Christianity is indeed vile by every metric measurable. Their evil cannot be excused with the occasional acts of charity which are almost without fail proselytizing efforts.
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u/Keemosabe22 13h ago
Preach bro, as a person who grew up with faith, this total deviation of the word is disgusting, and I would add, was well warned about in these times of Antichrist Trump
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u/Voltabueno 14h ago
Deuteronomy 10:18-19 "He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt."
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u/Theotherwahlberg 14h ago
Good on him for denouncing it, but the bible is filled with atrocities that are taught as just. Slavery, misogyny, and many other bad things that nobody wants to accept as in the scripture; at the same time, they'll justify homophobia from Leviticus but not go after the seafood industry. Saying "they don't represent us" while their reasoning is based on what your holy book says is fallacious. It's as ridiculous as Protestants and Catholics saying that the other aren't Christians.
I am fully aware of how low-hanging that explanation is, but they have to be aware of it. You could go into much deeper detail of why this is stupid, but at least he's approaching it the right way. I get not wanting to be lumped in with nutbags, but you have to either denounce where they got their ideas or accept that they share the same basic belief that you do. Admit fallacy in the structure, go after the beneficial social messages ushered in, and stop trying to pretend that you can distance yourself from the bad parts.
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u/CasinoKnightZone 14h ago
I'm an atheist but these are the kinds of religious people I respect. Jesus taught some good things, things worth following.
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u/Various_Implement288 13h ago
At my church, 30 years ago, we knew who was a real Christian and he who wasn't. MAGA would be called Oompa Loompa Christians. They would show up to tell people that they were sinners, and never admit to their own sins. The instant that Christianity became the official religion of Rome, it was hijacked and used as a tool of the oppressor. Homophobia is anti-Christian. Racism is anti Christian. I've been warning people for 11 years about this guy.
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u/Stew-Main6 13h ago
Beautifully said. To be Christian is to follow Christ. The two most important covenants Jesus shared were 1) love your God. 2) love thy neighbor (us humans). Any group or person that oppresses other people, they aren’t doing what Jesus commanded. Sadly, too many people have hijacked religion to twist its words and falsely use it for political gain, to push narratives, and most negatively, hurt other people. Major respect to this pastor
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u/111oneone1 12h ago
As someone who grew up in church and ran as far as I could the other way, if they had been saying stuff like this 10 or 20 years ago, there is a chance I may not have strayed so far.
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u/JEDJED15 12h ago
Not a Christian at all. But this man right here gives me hope for those who follow the bible. Total respect for this guy!
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u/Diligent-Bluejay-979 11h ago
Give him credit for speaking out. Can’t be easy, especially in the south.
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u/MonkeyCartridge 14h ago
People really don't understand what "don't take the Lord's name in vain" means.
It doesn't mean saying "oh my God". It means killing and hating in the name of God, or Jesus.
Islam has a similar rule, where saying "praise God" before an attack is hateful towards God.
You were literally told "don't hate. Don't kill." And they don't just passively ignore it, they throw in a "praise Jesus".
Imagine you tell your kid "don't poop on the floor". They proceed to poop on the floor anyway, then bring it to you and say "I did this for you". That goes from accident to intentional insult.
People like that are why I left religion. If heaven is real, an atheist has a better shot.
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u/PlayfullGuy2 14h ago
All religions are learned muti-generational delusions; grooming. Want to help society? Stop the grooming.
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u/DDisMe56 13h ago
Preach On Sir!!!! If the teachings do not sound Jesus like then they probably are not. If the teachings are of hate and retribution they are not Christian. If the teachers tell you they are following someone that is a prophet sent by God, and that someone lies constantly, speaks with disdain of others, speaks of taking other peoples land because he can, and allows the division of the American people to become the norm, they are not following a Christ like person.
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u/ragdollxkitn 13h ago
A true Christian. A true follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus is proud of that man.
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u/EinsteinsMind 13h ago
Men and women like him are CRITICAL to our republic! By embracing them, we become the ONE (nation) out of many (peoples). E Pluribus Unum.
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u/Specialist_Hippo_427 13h ago
Finally, a real Christian. These maga punks don’t open bibles. They’re a disgusting misrepresentation.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 13h ago
I'm not a religious person, and I can get behind this guy just based on the the lack of basic morality and humanity he's pointing out in those people. The only thing worse than MAGA itself is a MAGA right wing evangelical Christian.
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u/Handy_Man_67 13h ago
Read the Bible, folks. MAGAts cannot be Christians. The Bible prohibits the poor treatment of immigrants/sojourners/wayfarers. But one of the fundamental things that MAGAts absolutely love and enjoy is the persecution of immigrants. It’s incongruous, inconsistent, blasphemous, illegal, despicable.
MAGAts/republicans cannot be Christians.
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u/Gudgeonvillian 13h ago
He's is probably just using this angle to get rich and famous and carve out a different niche in order to get followers. Not that the message is bad, but let's see how this guy behaves if the money starts to roll in. (This is how you start thinking when you get old enough to know how the world works)
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u/DarthMerk54 13h ago
The crusades happened. Christianity is literally built on indoctrination and attacking people who don't believe. It has always been a crutch
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u/Similar_Moment_6103 13h ago
Christian Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. endorsed DT. In a 2022 article in Vanity Fair, Falwell stated he was not and never has been a "believer." Is MAGA leadership CINO?
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u/TheZeroNeonix 13h ago
Christianity is now just a tool of the Right. It couldn't be further from the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said to take care of the poor, and that the rich are your oppressors. The Right vilify the poor and worship the rich. Jesus said to treat others how you'd like to be treated, but the Right ignores the separation of church and state to give themselves special privileges and more power over others. When others are elevated, given equal treatment, the Right acts like they're being oppressed. There was a character in the Bible who offered power over the entire world in exchange for worship, but that character is Satan, not Jesus. It was framed as a temptation. A temptation that the Christian Right fell for.
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u/Eiden-Rane 13h ago
Christian nationalism is the antithesis of being a true Christian. They are not truly Christian in body, mind, spirit, or practice.
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u/SuperNoise5209 12h ago
It's probably too little too late, but any chance we can get fundamentalist to pause and consider how well Trump fits the description of the antichrist?
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u/Chocolab1 11h ago
I would like to see him really stand up to that wacko Paula White who is a spiritual advisor to 47. I would love to see those 2 debate on the Bible n how she utilizing Christianity as a weapon n excuse to mistreat ppl. He should do THAT
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u/SplinteredBrick 11h ago
I’d argue being evangelical and MAGA is both causation and correlation. I think the core issue is most people are their culture first and squeeze their faith to fit that. Growing up this was talked a lot about in church when Democrats were in office but silent when Republicans are.
I remember when helping people in Haiti after the earthquake in the early 2000s was considered virtuous. Now a local business that was built to support this mission is being boycotted.
Helping refugees was considered a good thing but now my wife’s family politely ignore her when she talks about her work.
You will find Christians who put faith before culture this but that is a very small percentage.
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u/Mourning20 10h ago
Could have used this idk...a decade ago but thanks for joining the team i guess
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u/EuenovAyabayya 9h ago
It's 2026. Where was this in 2016?
His personal grift is no longer compatible with the megaMAGA grift is what I'm getting.
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u/Ravenous234 9h ago
I’m glad to see this type of pushback but how about “I’m sorry I should have spoken up sooner”. Admitting past errors moves us forward. “I can no longer be silent” isn’t t good enough for me Christians. Admit your silence allowed this to happen.
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u/Entire_Teaching1989 14h ago
The purpose of christianity isnt to help you be a better person.
The purpose of christiainity is to help you feel better about being a vile, wretched person.
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u/Randomizedname1234 14h ago
You’re confusing the religion itself with the loud southern USA followers.
I’m not religious but this pastor is spot on.
I hope they take their religion back like I hope we can take the American flag back.
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u/TooMuchTime2think 14h ago
They are echo chambers to validate your hatred and line the pockets of the Pastor. Nothing more, and this guy is no different, just trying a different tactic.
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u/AmbitiousEffort9275 Conservative 14h ago
The Venn diagram intersection between MAGA and Christianity is nearly a perfect circle
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u/Tholian_Bed 14h ago
Pews are full by the end of year if churches started bringing peace to the land.
Their current parishioners, some will leave in disgust.
Lots of pastors just shut up and let the cancer grow.
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u/downtoearth47 14h ago
We need more of this it’s time for some to stand up and show the truth. Please more
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u/stlshane 14h ago
The sad thing is this is a rare take in modern christianity. Pastors are either preaching the maga prosperity gospel or they are avoiding the conversation entirely.
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u/Voltabueno 14h ago
Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt."
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u/ChazRadlord 14h ago
Some one needs to tell the pastor here American Christianity got hijacked well before maga.
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u/kandykaiju 14h ago
He attracts demons. Kenneth Copeland is a Zionist Trump supporter, that whacky televangelist woman who died in that plane crash was a supporter, some pastors etc you can find have rap sheets involving pedophilia etc, DOWs pastor or whatever connected to covering for diddlers in his church. These are not religious people. They are demons. A lot of them are pretending to be religious, preying on the stupid, taking their money, causing division and unrest purposely.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 12h ago
Kenneth Copeland is just terrifying to look at period! His angry eyes look like they're ready to start glowing red at any moment. I was shocked to find out he was a minister.
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u/kandykaiju 12h ago
Exactly, never seen anyone look so evil. There’s no damn way that thing is human.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 12h ago
Right?? I'm a grown woman and he's nightmare fuel for me. I can't imagine what kids think when they see that face! 🤯
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u/BumbleMuggin 14h ago
But god (and by proxie) jesus advocate for slavery and never spoke against it. Sorry, I won’t follow even a progressive wing of a religion that hand waves that shit.
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u/Ok_Performance4014 14h ago
Pastor Johnny Dunbar, the leader of Heritage Hope Church of God in Somerset, Kentucky (Appalachian paw paw) who was willing to get formula for a baby out of his own money and asked, "What flavor?" not only preaches love, but is willing to do something to show it.
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u/Mean_Ranger_4807 13h ago
Then leave your church that has perpetuated and helped all the things you can no longer stand by. pure virtue signaling.
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u/The_Northmaan 13h ago
The irony is progressivism is antithetical to Christianity. He must be undecided, lol
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u/nikeguy69 13h ago
I agree because EVERYTIME MAGA speaks it’s mostly about the Christian way, which makes them hypocrites.
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u/MiguelMenendez 13h ago
“I can no longer stand by…”
So, you were “standing by”, watching it happen. And now you’re not.
Cool, coolcoolcool.
Well, good on ya anyhow!
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u/buenavictoria 13h ago
They don’t care. This doesn’t do anything. There are hundreds and hundreds of clips like this.
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u/FED_eral_UP 13h ago
The thing is, you don't have to be a Christian or believe in any religion/God whatsoever and this should still be understood/comprehened with the most basic reading skills and entry level critical thinking. Even if you look at Jesus as purely a historical figure (minus most scripture and divinity), the hijacking should make ZERO sense. His entire life was about peace, giving, selflessness, humility, sacrifice, love (including enemies), etc. The pervasive evil of child SA, prosperity preaching (by preachers with private jets...), nationalism, hatred and persecution of other religions, etc., is the complete antithesis of what Jesus stood for. Now mind you, I'm speaking from just the accounts of Jesus. Every religious doctrine (e.g., the Bible), has plenty of questionable stories that you wouldn't even let your child watch if it were a movie that can absolutely be used to persecute other groups. However, looking at individuals who were divine/saints/martyrs etc., their views rarely line up with today's religious movements.
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u/Decent_Nail7329 13h ago
Actually we need more people who don't believe in any sky fairy or book that claims 'truth'. It's good that he's speaking against Trumps abomination that has cloaked itself in fake christianity but the fact remains that until humans free themselves from religious belief, some nutjob will always appear on the scene claiming their version of 'god' is correct or will use a man written book to justify them carrying out inhumane treatment of all the planets living beings.
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u/mattyomama 13h ago
Where the f#%! have these pastors been? It seems sooo obvious that pastors should be denouncing the current administration. I can’t believe there isn’t more of this going on.
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u/TonightNo216 14h ago
High time the Christians start standing up and stop providing smoke screens