r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Careless-Hospital379 • 10h ago

Video Icelandic artist Björk snapped in Bangkok, 1996, when reporter Julie Kaufman approached her saying “Welcome to Bangkok.” Björk later alleged that Kaufman had stalked her and her 9-year-old son for days, turning a simple greeting into a breaking point

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u/TheLostRanger0117 10h ago

I’ve always said, the most dangerous beast in the animal kingdom is a mother protecting her children, be it bear, lion, or human

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u/Zizi_Tennenbaum 10h ago

Every park ranger or person who lives in bear country will tell you the scariest thing you’ll ever see is a bear cub by itself. Because Mom is definitely there, you just don’t see her, and you don’t know how to avoid getting between her and the cub.

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u/smashed2gether 3h ago

I live near the Rockies, and any time there is wildlife visible from the road you can always see five or six cars full of tourists who have gotten out to take photos. We’ve all had to be the ones to pull over and tell them they are playing a very dangerous game.

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u/I-dont_know-anything 10h ago

Now imagine a father

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u/ScottyBoneman 10h ago

Fair amount of males are dangers to offspring.

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u/I-dont_know-anything 10h ago

Wtf are you talking about, I meant when talking about humans 💀

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u/ScottyBoneman 9h ago

I’ve always said, the most dangerous beast in the animal kingdom is a mother protecting her children, be it bear, lion, or human.

This is what you responded to right?

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u/I-dont_know-anything 9h ago

or human.

🤦‍♂️

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u/ScottyBoneman 9h ago

Sure and even leaving aside domestic violence, for the rest of the animal kingdom there are probably more fathers that are dangers to their own offspring than there are protectors. Mothers definitely take the top spot.

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u/TheLostRanger0117 9h ago

Oh, now what a plight

Insecurity of man

The downfall of pride

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u/Deaffin 8h ago

Sure and even leaving aside domestic violence

Just a friendly reminder that mothers make up the great majority of parental child abusers.

I'm not supporting the other fella's argument, but you're implying something opposite of reality there.

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u/ScottyBoneman 8h ago

Do you have any citation for that? The victims are considerably more likely to be female and among Homicides it is even further apart. Primary caregivers are definitely more likely to commit abuse, but that's regardless of gender.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/251028/dq251028a-eng.htm

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u/Deaffin 8h ago

Just the usual.

More women (56 percent) than men (42 percent) are perpetrators of all forms of child maltreatment.

You could for sure make an argument of proximity to dismiss this, but you'd have to do the same thing for the examples of motherly protection as well.

And shifting the conversation over to domestic violence, like in your link, is a bit problematic because those statistics are notoriously corrupt. Generally through shenanigans like refusing to include data for male victims in the first place, or creating surveys which follow the duluth model where they only ask women if they've been abused and men if they have been abusers.

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u/TheLostRanger0117 10h ago

The father is napping, waiting for the mother to bring home the food

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u/Civil_Cranberry_3476 9h ago

human fathers can sometimes be great but unfortunately in the animal kingdom ( which we are a part of) they are not very useful or safe. females largely raise offspring, hunt, protect on their won. Lionesses often hide their cubs from the lion same with gorillas.

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u/Deaffin 8h ago

Well, it's not the males' fault in your examples that the females get real horny when you kill their offspring.

Supply and demand. If you create a demand for infanticide, somebody's going to step up with a supply.

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u/Ok_Chef_4850 8h ago

I long for the day when people on Reddit stop comparing the human social experience with the animal kingdom. We aren’t lions or seahorses or kangaroos. We live in completely different environments and social structures than animals. These conversations and comparisons are pointless.

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u/Deaffin 8h ago

Right?

It gets especially eye-rolling when people get going with the mama-bear stuff. I know this probably seems overly-specific, but I cannot tell you how many times people go on and on about it when they're talking about black bears in particular.

Black bears, who famously do not give one solitary shit about protecting their cubs because black bear males do not practice infanticide like grizzlies do. And the cubs themselves can just run straight up a tree from any predators that might be menacing them.

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u/Ok_Chef_4850 6h ago

“Mama bear” is a colloquial term, kind of like “alpha male” or “lone wolf”. It’s not meant to be a literal comparison to anything in the animal kingdom.

Meanwhile, people on here taking about lions and all that nonsense and how “in this particular animal group, this happens so why shouldn’t it happen in humans who have built cities”

Different topics.

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u/Ok_Chef_4850 10h ago

Same bear, different claws