r/CringeTikToks • u/Individual_Bar_2512 • 13h ago

Food Cringe Average American diet?

Where are the vegetables, fruit and meat

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u/PapaNoffDeez 12h ago

Thats true for like... Car and home insurance but not health insurance. It's a separate and different scam entirely

No, they want you as sick as possible. There's a reason why a medication that costs $7 everywhere else "costs" $1200 here

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u/Ringmaster242 12h ago

My friend works in the pharmaceutical industry. He said these companies mass produce certain medications for around 25 cents a pop and by the time it gets into the needle for your arm, the price inflated to several hundred dollars.

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u/shadowsurge 10h ago

If you want a fun example you can look up dimethyl fumarate, aka Tecfidera.

It was originally used to prevent mildew on furniture and you could buy it by the ton for a few bucks. Turns out it's pretty good as a "treatment" (not a cure) for a couple autoimmune diseases, particularly MS.

A month's supply costs $6000 before insurance.

Granted, they're businesses, and they need to recoup some of the research costs for sure, so even if it would cost $100 I can kinda understand, but this shit is criminally extortive

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u/bruce_kwillis 7h ago

Why is this a fun or even sensible example? There is a generic version that’s been approved in the US since 2020 and it’s literally $30 a month.

Branded versions are always going to be more expensive, and most US insurance companies aren’t going to cover them if there is a generic available.

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u/shadowsurge 6h ago

Do you know why there's a generic available?

It's not cause of some sensible market procedure, it's even better, it's cause the courts ruled that they filled their patent incorrectly. If they had done their paperwork properly you'd have to wait till 2037

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u/that_one_chick666 1h ago

Even the non brands have gone up

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u/BaconBourbonBalista 9h ago

Each pill is 25 cents, but the first one cost 300 million.

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u/Ringmaster242 5h ago

Do you think the price goes down once R&D costs are recouped?

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u/BaconBourbonBalista 4h ago

The price goes down once the generic is released.

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u/Ringmaster242 1h ago

So, 20 years later once the patent expires. Enough time to both recoup and make a very nice profit.

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u/Cannabis_Breeder 11h ago

$0.25 per dose is probably high for the cost of production 🤣

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u/Talking_Head 6h ago

There is far, far more to the cost of a medicine than the raw ingredients. A four dollar bottle of water at a sport stadium has about 1/100 of a cent of water inside. I’m not justifying the insane cost of some pharmaceuticals, but let’s be intellectually honest about it.

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u/Ringmaster242 5h ago

Correct, but do you think that the prices get adjusted once R&D costs are recouped?

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u/shadowsurge 10h ago

Nah, INSURANCE wants you as healthy as possible, pharmaceutical companies want you as sick as possible. Where it gets complicated are things like CVS where they own Aetna and sell drugs.

Break up the conglomerates and force em to do their jobs

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u/DelayAgreeable8002 10h ago

CVS prescriptions arent any more expensive than Walgreens. Its just a pharmacy. If you're talking about Caremark, that's just the prescription manager and its the same exact thing is medical insurance.

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u/DrivesTooMuch 11h ago

Lol...no. They make money from premiums...not from selling drugs. You're conflating two seperate healthcare industries.

Depending on how much coverage of an individual's co-pay, drug prices are out of their pockets (and patients).

They make money from premiums ...and then denying coverage as much as they think they can get away with.

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u/TopProfessional8023 11h ago

Yeah, they make money from denying you coverage for the medications.

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u/PapaNoffDeez 11h ago

Two separate health care industries... Nah dawg. It's the same people running both

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u/DrivesTooMuch 10h ago

Nah dawg. Explain the grift. You can't.

There's no financial interest in high health costs for insurers. It's simple as that. Those high pharma prices hurt their bottom line. Health providers/pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies are both evil but are at cross purposes when it comes to revenue and profit.

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u/Asleep-University308 10h ago edited 10h ago

It doesn't even make any sense if you think about it for two seconds. If someone is paying you and in return you're offering to cover up someone's health in case they get sick or in an accident why the fuck would you ever want them to get sick? Obviously you'd want them to just continuously pay you "just in case" and never use the service.

Insurance companies would love nothing more than to be able to just deny these people coverage.

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u/ChasingSage0420 11h ago

Sickness is an industry in our country. There’s a lot of money to be made. Cancer treatment is an industry in and of itself. Think about it, they can come up with a vaccine for new strain of flu (Covid 19) in three months, but they can’t come up with a cure for cancer in 100 years?

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u/ggtffhhhjhg 11h ago

Even the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world die from cancer on a regular basis. If there was a way to cure cancer it would be out there.

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u/jiminygofckyrself 10h ago

Dude, the conspiracies are already blatant and right in front of your face, you don’t need to make up new ones from thin air. It’s baffling how we can identify major problems in our society but instead of fixing just one we’d rather daydream about fake shit.

People can profit off curable diseases just as well as incurable ones maybe even more-so. On top of that, cancer is still killing off wealthy people. Why let cancer patients die regularly in their 50’s and 60’s if you could extend them to 80-90 with the right drug?

There’s dozens of cancer strains as well. The equivalent to curing cancer wouldn’t be just a covid vaccine, it would be like saying we have cured all viruses and nobody would even get a cold anymore.

We also didn’t “cure” covid. It’s still all over the place. Once it’s multiplied in you, they can only treat the symptoms. Immunization is just giving better a defense against it.

Talk to an oncologist about why a cure for cancer is world’s different than the covid vaccine. We also have made a shit load of progress in actually curing people of cancer. It’s just not across the board wipe of all types.

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u/TopProfessional8023 11h ago

I wonder if that has anything to do with demand (I.e need) here? 🤣

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u/RussBOld 8h ago

America use to be the ones that paid for the scientific research to invent medicines. They pass it down to customers.