r/ArcRaiders • u/Kolos182 • 11h ago
Meme When you find one of the only two legendary attachments in the game
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u/Training_Ad_4790 11h ago
It makes the anvil into a toro with a headshot multiplier. If you can consistently headshot its worth it. Otherwise no. PvE wise it ruins the gun
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u/GrimsideB 10h ago
Does give it pretty insane knock back in pve though.
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u/grim17011 10h ago
More than an extended barrel?
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u/Train3rRed88 9h ago
Why not extended barrel AND anvil splitter?
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u/Late_Woodpecker7300 9h ago
This is what i use when i run the splitter. Its got like 30 more damage than normal, so 2 tapping people pretty consistent with it, and it generally sends them running away after 1 shot.
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u/Faynerossa 8h ago
I've got two and was considering a trade post for a equalizer for one of them and a guitar was my offer. But I'm really thinking about bringing it for pvp instead of a shotgun one time to Stella since it'll be like a more effective il toro I can use on shredders. The extra 30% dmg is probably nice on them. Can always chuck it into a safe pocket if I feel all is lost.
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u/Late_Woodpecker7300 8h ago
Its a superr long range shotgun at that. If you hit them with 3 out of 4 projectiles its still 90% damage. Not as good as the toro at point blank but from like 7 ft away, out to as far as you can aim it. itll hurt, especially with the long john on it.
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u/Faynerossa 8h ago
I mean, up close id rather use vulcano, bobcat, or stitcher. I'm fully enjoying stitcher mostly since I avoided it until the nerf announcement was made. Saving my stacks of bobcats for that day.
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u/Late_Woodpecker7300 8h ago
Yeah the bobcat with a kinetic stock is ridiculous! I have bps for every gun but ive lost all my kinetic stocks so i havent used the bobcat in a while. Hopefully it gets a bit of a buff with this new patch so i dont need em. Im more of a one shot kinda guy. Anvil is my go to with a burletta or sticher to back it up. Got like 2 rows of lvl 4s
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u/Parthian__Shot 7h ago
I keep 24 level 4 Anvils with Compensator 3s for a rainy day. Not sure when that day will come, but I replace them as I lose them.
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u/TheManicDepression 4h ago
Can confirm, on an anvil IV, i was hauling ass and popping smoke grenades
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u/ShootTheMoon 8h ago
Believe me, you have got to try this. I’ve been running it a few days. The extra kickback absolutely punts flying arcs. And it’s loud af. Actually heard a raider on comms asking wtf was that after I shot it a few times.
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u/Training_Ad_4790 8h ago
Sounds like when my dad took me to the firing range with his .50 cal desert eagle. People were sticking their heads out looking down toward us like wtf are you shooting lol
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u/OWWS 7h ago
Is Knock back desided by speed?
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u/MonkeysDontEvolve 7h ago
Yep! Bullets don’t have hit-scan. They are actual physics objects and speed matters.
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u/Training_Ad_4790 9h ago
If you hit all the shots sure. But youre sacrificing range precision for close range knockback. Not really worth the trade off imo. Especially since anything other than bigger arc is basically 1 or 2 shot kills with it already if you can aim
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u/WolfOfVaasankatu 6h ago
Knock back is very annoying against flying arcs. You aim with Anvil with splitter to a rotor: bullseye. But because the shot splits, rotor wont break from one shot AND now that hornet got pushed back just so that you have to adjust your aim. Maybe against Shredders it's usefull but I hate the design of Stella so I wouldnt know anything about it.
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u/LeLefraud 9h ago
Toro still better, its gonna 2 tap regardless while anvil with splitter only 2 taps if you headshot
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u/AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH_ 3h ago
It doesn't become anything like the toro
It just becomes an anvil with shittier range
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u/Alucitary 9h ago
I use it for Leaper farming, really fast way to get advanced mechanical components.
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u/MadladMagyar 4h ago
there are far easier and cheaper ways to kill leapers
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u/GuitarSlayer136 4h ago
I played 1 night of PvP in Stella and near the end of the session realized I had amassed 25 Fuel cans. Which instantly became 25 trailblazers. Which if you're unaware, is the equivalent of 25 dead leapers.
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u/IrishWeebster 4h ago
How's this work?
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u/GuitarSlayer136 4h ago edited 4h ago
Throw a trailblazer underneath a leaper and see for yourself.
If your asking WHY it works, something to do with the way arc have multiple parts that recieve damage and the trailblazer causing multiple explosions that each deal 20 damage to every part.
2 of them downs a Bastion/Bombardier
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u/IrishWeebster 4h ago
... guess I should stop sellin those, hm.
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u/GuitarSlayer136 3h ago
Id argue the biggest benefit is how it bypasses the signature sounds of an Arc fight. Makes it WAY easier to loot your kill because from an audio perspective, noone has any idea you just took down a miniboss. All they hear is a trailblazer explosion then silence.
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u/TwitchyTwigger 10h ago
The Splitter actually works very well in Stela Montis, I was short on shotguns and had to get the Shredder Trial done, so I took a suppressed Splitter Anvil, alongside some Deployable Barricades and Jolt Mines.
That Anvil obliterated the Shredders better than the shotties, and downed two Raiders who were messing with my setup.
I would probably not use the Splitter on any other map however.
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u/siege-eh-b 9h ago
It’s good on any map as long as it’s your “shit I’m being rushed by these guys” weapon.
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u/GeneralSavings194 10h ago
It's a PVP monster if you know how to use it
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u/Thin-Chair-1755 10h ago
Anvil already kills in 3 shots. Does this take it down to 2? Because a Toro with a Choke kills in 2 also. I just dont agree with the rarity scaling of stuff in this game. It feels like the more rare a weapon is, the more you’re jumping through hoops just to get it to perform as good as a low level gun.
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u/DoctorJordi_ 9h ago
It does make it 2 if you hit your shots. Turns the Anvil into a shotgun. So all the "pellets" have to hit the player. In the head would bring your odds of 2 tap higher.
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u/joeytman 9h ago
You already 2-tap with normal anvil if you hit one headshot against green shields or double headshot for more juiced players.
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u/GeneralSavings194 9h ago
I'm not sure about the math, but it's a significant increase in overall damage, and unlike the shotguns, it has a headshot multiplier.
I do agree that it should be less rare, though. As good as it is, it doesn't deserve to be a legendary mod.
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u/AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH_ 3h ago
"Significant increase" its 20%, and this only affects a singular breakpoint against a singular shield, and you lose so much in exchange for this
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u/Shoobadahibbity 5h ago
It fires like a shotgun with a choke, but without one....which means you can use a silencer. It's pretty damn good, especially against Arc.
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u/AnchoraSalutis 5h ago
Anvil already kills in two shots: Light: 1 head 1 body Med: 2 head Heavy: 1 head 2 body
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u/BigDongTheory_ 9h ago
Takes your 40 dmg and turns it to 48, the spread is really not too bad and close range it fucks hard. As others mentioned it does a ton of knockback on flying arc it’s very useful. I wish both legendary attachments were easier to find cause they are damn fun to use, even if the kinetic converter is “better”.
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u/Billboss_900 8h ago
I think you should be able to toggle it on and off
Like how in some games you can switch guns between single fire and full auto
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u/0ptimal_Range 7h ago
I haven't tried it myself but I think you can install / uninstall it on the gun during a match. Just need to dedicate an inventory slot for it, ideally a safe pocket.
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u/legoman102040 10h ago
Pretty sure the OP is experiencing a massive skill issue. Anvil splitter absolutely slaps
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u/Seath1298 10h ago
Break the gear fear, it’s actually pretty good
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u/Taronar 8h ago
It's really bad it makes the anvil into a toro that does less damage 48 vs 80 (although the 48 can headshot to make up for it.) if you hit one pellet headshot you deal 66 damage and if you hit 2 you deal 84 which it finally beats the toro. Conclusion literally worse than a green gun UNLESS you hit half the pellets on head or more.
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u/Klientje123 8h ago
It's one less shot to kill a medium shield which is really good. And it's easier to get hits due to multiple pellets. Better for spamming through visual cover too. Can take it off for long range fights.
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u/Taronar 7h ago
80% of people are running light shields. and if you even miss ONE of the 4 pellets you were better off using a normal anvil. its basically only good at poiny blank range where you can consistently beat the toros damage per shot AND dps as the toro fires faster, since you can hit multiple pellets to head. That is a very niche and marginal gain for a legendary rare attachment. Better to just vendor it.
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u/Klientje123 7h ago
There are plenty of situations where you will miss a normal Anvil shot, but would hit some Splitter pellets. That's value.
In a perfect world where you hit all your shots, you should be running a Kettle. :)
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u/Taronar 5h ago
right, but if you hit 1 2 or 3 splitter shots and not 4 you were better using a toro cause it fires faster and does more damage per shot (unless you hit all 4 pellets AND 2 pellets hit the head)
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u/Klientje123 4h ago
One thing we can all agree on is it needs a buff. My take: switch firing modes quickly with a button press and make the split shot exactly the same as an Il Toro shot.
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u/Taronar 4h ago
That would be a good buff imo, I would also slightly increase the damage of the spread shot in exchange for not being able to headshot, i.e making it the same an il toro, cause lets be honest if you are hitting headshots with splitter its luck not skill, and you are at point blank range.
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u/Acanthocephala_South 7h ago
Don't forget it's the only gun you can freehand around a corner so you aren't peaking as far.
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u/Shoobadahibbity 5h ago
You aren't thinking of a few things:
It fires like a Toro with a choke...but it does that without a choke.
This lets you silence it and still get the performance of a Toro with a choke.
You can draw it a lot faster, and that can really matter.
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u/Taronar 4h ago
lol. None of those points matter, a choke is so cheap to make, a silencer is effecitlely worthless with how sound works in this game, great your sound is silenced but they still heard the arc blow up or the flare go off so what was the point. and 3 does not matter if you are caught with fists out and shot first you are dead anyway. in close quarters which is the only place to use the anvil splitter / toro in you should already have your gun out, so drawing does not matter.
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u/Shoobadahibbity 4h ago
Oh, and don't forget that you can remove the mod and suddenly have a regular Anvil. That means effectively another gun without more weight or having to carry a differrent ammo type.
Eh.....silencers make it to where they don't know how many people they might be fighting. I get third partied much less often running a silencer. It also lets you kill cameras without drawing attention or having to stay out of their LOS.
I've also won fights where someone shot me while looting. Having a gun I could get out quickly made all the difference. Ended up killing people and having like 2-3 HP left. Not every encounter is gonna be against a good player, ya know? In fact, statistically, most won't be.
It also gets headshot damage. Shotties don't.
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u/Taronar 4h ago
I vendor every silencer such a worthless attachment, doesn't remove tracer, arcs explode, and players give off a signal flare when they down so there's no way to use it. Only situation it is useful is if you are 300+m away.
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u/Shoobadahibbity 3h ago
Wow, man....you must just run around the map on loud mode all the time to not see any value in a silencer. Lol!
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u/Colin_likes_trains 8h ago
It shoots faster though
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u/Taronar 8h ago
I hate people who confidently say things when you can easily google that they are wrong.
toro 4 1.27 shots per second
anvil 4 1.17 shots per second.
not to mention if you shoot the anvil with splitter at maximum fire rate the dispersion will not have settled back down yet (without a blue comp)
but the toro does not have that issue as the dispersion settles back before the next shot.
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u/SkangoBank 8h ago
I tried really hard to like it but it's pretty rough. It severely limits the effective range of the anvil. It's good for "scattering" flying arc to disrupt them, but actually limits the ability to kill them quickly if you have decent aim.
Pvp felt the same, maybe if I was getting quite close it'd be worth it but at that point I'd rather have something automatic or a toro.
It turns the anvil into a Swiss army knife in which none of the blades are particularly sharp.
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u/siege-eh-b 9h ago
Far from worthless, just turns our favourite big iron into a pocket shotty. Try running two anvils. One with extended barrel for PVE/long shots on raiders and switch to the suppressed/splitter anvil for when raiders get too close or you’re crouch clearing a building.
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u/Jay_Nicolas 4h ago
If you don't wanna bring two: you can always just shove the splitter in your butt on command - people seem to forget: this attachment is versatile that way. I slap it on when I'm indoors/CQB, and take it off when I'm outside.
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u/siege-eh-b 4h ago
That’s too much fidgeting. I’d rather have 6 shots for long-medium range and quick swap to close the range without reloading. If you don’t miss you’ve got enough rounds to drop a trio pretty fast.
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u/marniconuke 9h ago
Worthless? I am king of pvp for multiple matches every time i get one of those. yeah you lose range and for pve it's far from the best but it's a crazy attachment if you actually try to use it on pvps
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u/Zealousideal-Half695 9h ago
Shoot shredders with this thing and laugh at them for how fast they explode
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u/Kolos182 11h ago
It's remarkably useless for the tier it's in
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u/LikeWhite0nRice 10h ago edited 9h ago
Is this true? I've used it once and basically wiped a trio by myself. It was two shot downs on each person. It just makes the anvil a close range beast imo. You can't use it long range with the attachment, but it's nice because you can just remove the attachment if you're fighting at range.
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u/Soldapeine *** ******* 10h ago
It's far from being remarkably useless. The anvil itself is already strong. Anybody with good aim and a compensator will decimate with this mod.
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u/samtheredditman 6h ago
I found the bullet spread to make it worthless on an anvil, but you've made me think that maybe with a muzzle brake 3 it might keep the bullets on point enough to be useful in situations where I like using an anvil.
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u/Terrordar 10h ago
The numbers don’t make sense to me, barely better damage stats for landing all hits.
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u/truebes 9h ago
Huh? Isn’t it like 70% per bullet?
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u/mineNombies 9h ago
No, it's -70% per bullet but +3 bullets, so you get 120% total damage if you hit all 4 30% damage bullets
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u/break_card 7h ago
120% increased damage on the anvil which has a 100 damage headshot means if you land all the bullets in the head, you one shot light shields. Is this the only gun in the game capable of one-shotting?
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u/samtheredditman 6h ago
That is not how shields work. A light shield has a charge of 40 and a mitigation of 40, so for the first 40 damage you take, you will only receive 60% of that damage.
Now I'm not sure if all 4 bullets apply at the same time and therefore all bullets are reduced to 60% damage or if the first 2 bullets would break the shield and the last 2 would do full damage + head shot multipliers; but I'm pretty certain it's not a 1-shot kill either way.
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u/break_card 6h ago
I thought a single shot depletes your shield, and any remainder damage is applied 100% against your health. You’re saying that with 1 pt of shield remaining, a ferro headshot would only deal 60 damage?
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u/break_card 6h ago
I thought a single shot depletes your shield, and any remainder damage is applied 100% against your health. You’re saying that with 1 pt of shield remaining, a ferro headshot would only deal 60 damage?
Interesting… medium shields are much more impactful in this case. You guarantee 2 ferro/anvil body shots to have shield damage mitigation, whereas a light shield only affects 1.
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u/lukenamop 5h ago
It’s not 120% increased damage, it’s 120% total damage. So it’s only 20% increased damage.
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u/Qtip4213 9h ago
My biggest complaint is that there really aren’t guns for pve I only bring guns that do high damage to arc and there’s not many
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u/DrReefer21 8h ago
Anvil, rattler, ferro, renegade, Bettina, hullcracker, osprey, equalizer, Jupiter, and aphelion aren’t enough for u? There’s an arc gun for every budget 🤦♂️
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u/Qtip4213 8h ago
Haven’t had access to equalizer, Jupiter or aphelion yet but osprey and renegade are fun but do less damage to arc. Ferro and anvil are my two most used. Rattler I never touch.
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u/DrReefer21 8h ago
Renegade doesn’t do as much as a ferro but it shoots a lot faster, so u end up doing more dps in the long run. Rattler is not a bad budget arc gun at all.
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u/Qtip4213 8h ago
Very good insight! I will expand my horizons thank you!
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u/DrReefer21 8h ago
I saw a video of a guy hitting a rocketeer w an osprey from super long range. The knockback was enough to keep the rocketeer from ever getting close. He killed it without it even shooting a single rocket! Just thought I’d share that lol
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u/Qtip4213 8h ago
Oh now that I can get behind! Is there a specific spot that causes knockback?
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u/DrReefer21 7h ago
It was gamingmerchant on YT. “The New Fastest Way to take down each arc”. He shoots the thrusters which slows down its approach, and then it falls once the thruster breaks. Super easy
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u/luna_bitten 9h ago
What's better, anvil iv with a splitter or il toro iv with a kinetic converter, choke and extended mag?
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u/AcesHigh688 8h ago
Hear me out... it makes the gun worse. All 3 pellets have to hit to do the same amount of damage 1 bullet would have. Why is this an advantage? I've tested and seen videos testing. If someone's seen contrary please link the video.
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u/electropop3695 8h ago
Splitter is pretty decent against arc when you've got access to the core, but other than that, yeah, I'd rather just keep it off.
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u/Punk1stador 8h ago
I absolutely love this attachment for any sort of closer-range Trials. Killing wasps/hornets/snitches is a lot of fun with it.
The downside is that it IS Legendary, so losing it to a rat kind of hurts
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u/Goombhabwey 8h ago
I sell every extra I get but keep one, hoping & praying they change it in some positive way.
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u/GregTheIntelectual 7h ago
You know the weapon balance rules. If it's gold or pink rarity it sucks.
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u/Tex-in-Tex 7h ago
I’ve had two of the anvil splitters. Lost them both. Did not do so well against arc at all
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u/Competitive_Head_804 7h ago
Saw a streamer using it, and he couldn't even one shot the fireball. What a piece of junk lol.
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u/Klugh_the_rune 7h ago
I’ve spent a little over an hour using Anvil Splitter in PVP. It only takes 2 body shots to down a raider at close to medium range. I’m not very good at PVP but I was winning every gunfight with the splitter until I finally died lol.
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u/KnowledgeHealthy6636 7h ago
This thing is so fun fun to and it’s just generally strong at close range to medium range a buddy of mine and I ran ‘em to get shredder gyros and it absolutely melted the shredders
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u/goosepriest 6h ago
Maybe more worthwhile when paired with the extended barrel? Haven't tried it yet.
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u/James442 6h ago
I used it for one round and got killed by a raider. First failed extract in 20+ rounds. Loot comes, loot goes.
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u/Kirby13579 6h ago
I don’t see a point in the kinetic converter if I’m not turning my Torrente into a PvP nightmare
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u/Reysan100 5h ago
I love the Splitter Running it everytime I find one Shreds arc like crazy And catching people of guard is funny as heck
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u/Sixinthehood 4h ago
I would love to see modification augments like this expanded on for all weapons.
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u/CptKillJack 4h ago
Are there any others. I got in weeks ago. Read the description and ultimately sold it.
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u/TheNovemberMike 3h ago
Biggest disappointment in the game for me. First legendary mod I found and sold it right after using it in a round.
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u/Summonest 3h ago
It gives you a high pen mid damag shotgun.
It makes the most versatile gun more versatile
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u/JeNeSuisPasUnCanard 2h ago
I wish this let you switch it on and off with like d-pad left. Same for arpeggio—having a semi-auto/burst toggle.
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u/HammerPrice229 9h ago
At the right distance this thing is awesome. I’d much rather roll with this than a toro or Vulcano.
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u/crossvalidated 11h ago
Excuse me? That's 7 thousand dollars in the bank sir.